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RE: Mouths to Feed and fan reaction to joining the Big East
(02-12-2012 11:08 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 09:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 09:02 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  give it a rest quo....

Give it a rest Bearcats. If, as in this case, you don't have anything useful to contribute to a thread, then just stay out of it.

Wow!!!

Of all people to write that....now even the best trollers know you are trolling.

Mods...how long will he/she be allowed to take a crap in each and every thread?

Apparently, as long as he wants.
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As far as I'm concerned, this place looks like it's going to provide an awful lot of entertainment. I'm really looking forward to it! Personally, I hope USF NEVER gets replaced! This forum is fantastic!
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(02-12-2012 10:22 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:20 AM)PATiger Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:09 AM)PATiger Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 07:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What does not add up are the fanciful claims of the Memphis fans. For example:

1) FedEx is not going to give the Big East an additional $10m per year, Good Lord.

2) UM does not come anywhere near dominating the Memphis TV football market, that market is saturated by interest in SEC programs and always will be.

So when i cut through the fanciful claims of Memphis fans, i see that nothing adds up.

You have made quite a few ignorant posts on this thread, but this one (so far) is the most ignorant.

1) FedEx is a huge sponsor of college athletics. CEO Fred Smith and CFO Alan Graf were in the meetings with BE Commissioner John Marinatto and USF President Dr. Judy Genshaft along with Memphis AD RC Johnson and President Shirley Raines. They have made it extremely clear that FedEx will be funding not only upgrades to Memphis's facilities but also a Big East sponsorship.

2) Memphis owns the Memphis DMA and it's not even close. If you combined all the fans of every other team in college athletics, Memphis would still have a supermajority in the Memphis DMA.

I didn't say FedEx won't kick in some money for Memphis, but that is a far, far cry from saying they will kick in MILLIONS PER YEAR to the Big East. And you have no evidence that they will.

As for a claim that there is more TV or fan interest in Memphis football in the DMA than in SEC football, well, that is simply preposterous.

You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Put up some facts or admit you are an ignorant Memphis homer.

I know you're getting curbstomped in this little argument that you started, but leave the name-calling out of it, please. Blatant AUP violation.
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(02-11-2012 11:57 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 04:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 11:45 AM)Original Sabretooth Wrote:  For all of you posturing, I'm still trying to figure out the USF contribution to the pie.

Memphis fans keep asking what USF contributes when that is not the issue here. USF has been a member of the Big East for 8 years thus we don't have to justify our membership. On the other hand, it is entirely appropriate for existing members to ask what marginal value a new member will add.

And in Memphis's case, i don't see anything.

I just wonder why a message board that "doesn't tolerate smack" would allow this troll to continue here. Seems like it may not be as strict as some have said.

For some reason, the mods refuse to do anything about her. I've raised this issue several times and it falls on deaf ears.
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(02-12-2012 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:09 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  Look folks....our football futures depends on a legitimate playoff system being implemented granting the Big East an automatic bid. That is all we can ask for and gives a chance like anybody else to win a national championship. I think it happens....8 teams first then 16....which equals college football heaven!

Although an 8 or 16 team playoff would be ideal, it is clear that this will not happen for at least 10 years, so if that is indeed what our future depends on, we are finished.

I also think we can survive in a bowl system if AQ remains and the Big East retains AQ. But i think that is very unlikely as well. Pitt, Syracuse, and WVU were the highest-profile football programs in a league already denigrated (unfairly, but still) as the worst AQ league, not deserving of AQ status. We have replaced them with programs with far less pedigrees and TV appeal, so i think our AQ goose is cooked. We now look like C-USA II.

If i were USF's President, i would be doing everything i can to try and attract an ACC, SEC, or Big12 invitation. Just my 2-cents ...

You are high on smack if you think USF is EVER going to the SEC.

Good lord.
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(02-08-2012 10:32 AM)k5james Wrote:  
(02-08-2012 10:30 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  I am telling you guys that Memphis football will surprise you very soon, more potential than many teams that already throwing stones. Yes we are in the middle of SEC country and we have negelected it for too long but USF will always be at best 4th fiddle in Florida so being able to be as good as them won't take long. You foget you are also getting a poweful basketball program that draws 17-18k for CUSA games now and has an average RPI over the lst 10 years tied with UCONN one point behind Louisville. Don't sneeze at Elite 8, Elite 8, National Championship game, Sweet 16, and NCCA 2nd round in the last 5 years.

Nobody is upset about adding your basketball but don't try to blow sunshine up our ass about your football. Yes, there's potential, but until that potential starts to come through don't expect us to be happy about adding a really bad football team to the conference.

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(02-12-2012 10:22 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:20 AM)PATiger Wrote:  [quote='quo vadis' pid='7546486' dateline='1329059828']
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Put up some facts or admit you are an ignorant Memphis homer.

And Memphis fans were the ones warned that this is a "civilized" board and that we better mind our manners or we'll be banned? :ncaabbs:

This poster has repeatedly called us "homers" and I find that offensive on such a "civilized" board. 03-puke

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(02-12-2012 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If i were USF's President, i would be doing everything i can to try and attract an ACC, SEC, or Big12 invitation. Just my 2-cents ...

Why would the SEC, ACC or the Big 12 even consider adding USF? What would be their share of conference revenue, $12-15 million? There is no way USF could possibly be worth that to any of those conferences. They would just be a burden and a financial drain, in essence, just another "mouth to feed".
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(02-12-2012 12:09 PM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If i were USF's President, i would be doing everything i can to try and attract an ACC, SEC, or Big12 invitation. Just my 2-cents ...

Why would the SEC, ACC or the Big 12 even consider adding USF? What would be their share of conference revenue, $12-15 million? There is no way USF could possibly be worth that to any of those conferences. They would just be a burden and a financial drain, in essence, just another "mouth to feed".

Yeah, and that dead last finish in the Big East in football can't be helping either. Is there any proof that USF has invested in football or do they just not care?
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(02-12-2012 07:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 07:22 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 06:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 04:39 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 04:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Memphis fans keep asking what USF contributes when that is not the issue here. USF has been a member of the Big East for 8 years thus we don't have to justify our membership. On the other hand, it is entirely appropriate for existing members to ask what marginal value a new member will add.

And in Memphis's case, i don't see anything.

You don't see anything because your head is up your ignorant ass. I believe Triple A (who is a very legit poster) explained it to you.03-banghead

This forum has been flooded with insufferable noob Memphis fans. Good grief, if it's so easy to see, then please explain how Memphis is going to add about $10 million per year to the Big East in conference revenue. This space reserved:

Do you actually read what people post? Triple A is a Memphis insider and it is common knowledge that FedEx will be giving $10 million. Memphis is FedEx. This is not counting the Liberty Bowl ($2,000,000 payout) and the a TV market that is dominated by the Univeristy of Memphis (West TN -Memphis, Jackson, Northern Miss, and Eastern Arkansas), a entrance fee to join, and a rabid fanbase who will eat up Big East merchandise. So how does that not add up?

What does not add up are the fanciful claims of the Memphis fans. For example:

1) FedEx is not going to give the Big East an additional $10m per year, Good Lord.

2) UM does not come anywhere near dominating the Memphis TV football market, that market is saturated by interest in SEC programs and always will be.

So when i cut through the fanciful claims of Memphis fans, i see that nothing adds up.

1) FedEx is going to give the Big East directly and indirectly much more than $10 million per year.

2) Memphis absolutely dominates the Memphis market

Have another beer.
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(02-09-2012 04:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-09-2012 12:28 PM)billyjack Wrote:  
(02-09-2012 11:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-09-2012 09:36 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  First off, It can be good for conf and school. It is all about TV$$$ not school money. Any non AQ stepping up is going to get a windall, that doesn't mean the conf doesnt get the same windall. UCF got 1.2 mil from CUSA, If our market brings in big bucks for BE it is a win, the fact we end up with 10 mil per year is also a win. Quo's statement make no sense. It can be good for BE and the fans of incoming school should also be excited. not a either or.

a win-win scenario is possible, but in the case of Memphis, what are the odds? They will likely take a 10 million dollar cut of conference revenues from a new deal, but how does their bad football contribute anything like that to us?

This point has been discussed countless times over the past 2 years at least:

Big East FB is solid and balanced top to bottom. There are no perennial bottom feeders. There haven't been for a while. If Memphis serves as a bottom feeder for a while, that's not a serious problem. It would allow the other conference teams to strenghten their W-L records, make a bowl a little easier, and reduce the week to week grind during the season.

This logic would make sense if Memphis was joining, say, the SEC. Because the SEC has the powerhouses at the top to carry a bottom-feeder or three. But the Big East is already considered the runt of the AQ litter, we are always having to defend our status as a major conference.

In that context, adding a bottom-feeder wounds us when we are already bleeding pretty bad in the court of public opinion. I don't think we can afford that.

Courtesy of Mr. 1-7. Well played.
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(02-12-2012 12:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 07:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 07:22 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 06:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-11-2012 04:39 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  You don't see anything because your head is up your ignorant ass. I believe Triple A (who is a very legit poster) explained it to you.03-banghead

This forum has been flooded with insufferable noob Memphis fans. Good grief, if it's so easy to see, then please explain how Memphis is going to add about $10 million per year to the Big East in conference revenue. This space reserved:

Do you actually read what people post? Triple A is a Memphis insider and it is common knowledge that FedEx will be giving $10 million. Memphis is FedEx. This is not counting the Liberty Bowl ($2,000,000 payout) and the a TV market that is dominated by the Univeristy of Memphis (West TN -Memphis, Jackson, Northern Miss, and Eastern Arkansas), a entrance fee to join, and a rabid fanbase who will eat up Big East merchandise. So how does that not add up?

What does not add up are the fanciful claims of the Memphis fans. For example:

1) FedEx is not going to give the Big East an additional $10m per year, Good Lord.

2) UM does not come anywhere near dominating the Memphis TV football market, that market is saturated by interest in SEC programs and always will be.

So when i cut through the fanciful claims of Memphis fans, i see that nothing adds up.

1) FedEx is going to give the Big East directly and indirectly much more than $10 million per year.

2) Memphis absolutely dominates the Memphis market

Have another beer.

Funny how someone who knows nothing about Memphis, yet says we are being homers when we post fact. Hey quo....if you add up all the SEC fans in Memphis, Memphis fans dwarf them. They did a study within the last year.

I guess have FedEx sponsorship money was due to you. Even though the leaders of FedEx were a huge part of our inclusion to the Big East. What do we know, you seem to know everything about Memphis.
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(02-08-2012 10:32 AM)k5james Wrote:  
(02-08-2012 10:30 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  I am telling you guys that Memphis football will surprise you very soon, more potential than many teams that already throwing stones. Yes we are in the middle of SEC country and we have negelected it for too long but USF will always be at best 4th fiddle in Florida so being able to be as good as them won't take long. You foget you are also getting a poweful basketball program that draws 17-18k for CUSA games now and has an average RPI over the lst 10 years tied with UCONN one point behind Louisville. Don't sneeze at Elite 8, Elite 8, National Championship game, Sweet 16, and NCCA 2nd round in the last 5 years.

Nobody is upset about adding your basketball but don't try to blow sunshine up our ass about your football. Yes, there's potential, but until that potential starts to come through don't expect us to be happy about adding a really bad football team to the conference.

11 losing seasons before the last 2; but the last 2 have been good. The only thing that will make your football program return permanently to the piece of (deleted), that it has always been is if you lose Brady Hoke. As long as you have him you will be fine.
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(02-08-2012 10:37 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-08-2012 10:30 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  I am telling you guys that Memphis football will surprise you very soon, more potential than many teams that already throwing stones.

Seriously, what is your potential? Where are your quality recruits going to come from?

Louisiana, Texas, Florida, and Alabama. We can now afford to expand our recruiting due to the added income. The new coach and his staff were out in place with that in mind. Their recruiting territory from prior jobs reflects those states. Tennessee produces few 5 star players in football. Tennessee gets them if they want them. However, we have always gotten good players from northern Mississippi away from Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and other $EC schools. Our biggest albatross has always been the $EC neighbors telling kids that we can't play for a national championship. Of course, they have as much chance at that as my 5'4" body does of dunking over Dwight Howard. That now changes and our expanded territories and BE invitation mean that we should be able to get 3 and 4 stars to upgrade our program. Don't forget that it wasn't that long ago DeAngelo Williams and crew were going to bowls and beating USF yearly. We had 40,000 plus every game in our stadium and it will not take long now to se that again. It would be silly to sell Memphis and football short. I would compare it to the Bearcats program and what happened once it joined the BE. Take this for what it is worth, but Fred Smith is a football guy and his being part of the program is good for everyone in this league. Down the road, you will not regret Memphis being in the BE/
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I find it ironic that you have examples of poor to mediocre CUSA teams, Louisville, Cincinnatti, and USF that became respectable and successful as soon as they received the BCS tag from your conference.

The money came out of the woodwork for them and there will be millions of dollars in expenditures announced very soon to complement the additional millions spent in the past three years on the football facilities. What logic are you using to say Memphis will be any different? Memphis had plenty of success over these same teams during their CUSA tenure and is in an arguably better recruiting area than those except for USF.

As an added bonus you have a perennial basketball power that sold out the FedEx Forum's 18,000 season tickets this year. You will thoroughly enjoy your trips to Memphis and the FedEx Liberty Bowl. Unfortunately basketball is going to be a very tough and expensive ticket if you are not part of the visitor allotment.

When #1 Memphis played #2 Tennessee a couple of years back, during the regular season, tickets were selling on ebay for $2500 each. Memphis loves basketball, but they have shown very good football attendance numbers over the past 50 years. That will only increase with the addition of the BE football programs that will now be coming to Memphis.
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One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is Memphis was preparing to upgrade its/our football program BEFORE our invitation to the Big East. See, our fans, boosters (ect) had got fed up with losing and decided to turn things around. We changes coaches, and are in the process of hiring a new AD, and planned major upgrades to the LB stadium.

Below is a link to how we convinced the BE to add us, and BTW we got unanimous support of ALL the university’s presidents.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...loaked-in/
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(02-09-2012 06:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-09-2012 12:55 AM)RandyMc Wrote:  Don't worry about us carrying our own weight. We haven't been working out of mobile trailers like USF in decades.

Give us four years of BCS recruiting
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... still wondering where these better recruits are going to come from for you. At USF, we struggle badly in the face of recruiting by UF, FSU, Miami, Alabama, Auburn, etc. Often lose 4- and 5- star recruits from high schools in the shadows of our campus. We get the 2- and 3- star scraps left over.

Fortunately for us, there are a lot of those, since Florida is such a talent hot-bed. But Memphis is in a far less munificent location, and the competition for talent is even more intense in your area. I don't see it happening dude ...
Man. USF is so awesome. I can't believe Memphis is being allowed to share a conference with such a sports powerhouse as USF. I mean, all those championships and national recognition must make you guys feel awesome.

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I wouldn’t take much of what quo vadis is saying as true because it’s evident to all of us in Memphis that he/she hasn’t a clue as to what’s really going on here.

BTW, I’m thrilled to be a part of the Big East!
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(02-12-2012 10:39 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
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(02-12-2012 10:22 AM)CyberBull Wrote:  
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(02-12-2012 09:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Well, there are few alternatives for the Big East regarding expansion, Steve.

I know that every older member school wants to go elsewhere, but those options don't really exist right now for USF, Rutgers, UConn and maybe Cincinnati.

So, the expansion committee is doing the best job it can with the realistic options available to it. I think that things will work out fine, for the reasons that I and others have posted in this thread.

Otherwise, it may be CUSA, the MAC or independence for USF, Rutgers, UConn and Cincinnati football if the Big East folded.

What other options exist?

Terry, as i said, i would expanded back to 8 teams, but no more. Probably UCF, Navy, and ECU as replacements for the three that left.

That would maintained our "East" character and would have given us the best chance to maximize our football TV revenue per school.

quo -- ever think that its TV telling us to add more teams in order to maximize our football revenue? Plus while we'll never approach SEC dollars our basketball will help offset some of the difference and why we need to bring in top shelf basketball program like Memphis.

I wasn't crazy about Memphis when it was first announced....mostly from an old grudged based on how Memphis helped delay our CUSA admission back in 2000 and some of Johnson's comments over the years. However, Johnson is retiring and its time to move on. The money thing will figure itself out....and as I said above, our football futures will be decided on how the new college football playoff system will be implemented.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion but its time to move on, IMHO.

Cyber, in what sense is it time to move on? It's not like our discussion here is holding anything related to the real Big East up. Nothing we say here affects what the conference or our schools do so why not keep talking about it?

IMO, adding Memphis is the Big East's admission that AQ is going away. If AQ was still in play, we would never add such a terrible football program which, stuck in SEC country, has zero growth potential. But given that AQ is going away, then why not add a basketball power to help make up for the loss of Cuse and maybe the Ville as well?

Big East is throwing in the towel as a football conference, IMHO. And so USF should be doing all we can to bail.

Again....it depends on what happens. While I agree that the current system is on life support I think whatever replaces the BCS will include the BigEast. If that happens then we are still in the game and have a chance to grow the conference yet again.

In terms of moving on, it just seems silly to go all elitist on Memphis when so many scenarios during the expansion process over the last 18-months had USF being the last man standing. Tough times make for unlikely partners....so I think its time to make the best of it. Memphis was starting to turn the corner in the C-USA 1.0 but then they got stuck in C-DOA after we all left. Who knows what they can do with the right coach & opportuity.

I don't think i am going all-elitist on Memphis. I'm well-aware of USF's shortcomings in basketball and football and haven't shied away from discussing them. We need to get better on the court and field and build our fan base too. But the issue here is Memphis, and while i concede that i can't read the future any better than anyone else can (maybe Memphis will evolve into a football powerhouse?), i just don't see what they bring to the table that justifies their invitation - unless the conference really is resigned to second-tier football status, and as a Bulls fan it is hard for me to live with that.
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(02-12-2012 10:32 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:28 AM)PATiger Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:22 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:20 AM)PATiger Wrote:  
(02-12-2012 10:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I didn't say FedEx won't kick in some money for Memphis, but that is a far, far cry from saying they will kick in MILLIONS PER YEAR to the Big East. And you have no evidence that they will.

As for a claim that there is more TV or fan interest in Memphis football in the DMA than in SEC football, well, that is simply preposterous.

You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Put up some facts or admit you are an ignorant Memphis homer.

This board is filled with two things.

1) Facts that back up the huge contribution that Memphis brings.
2) Trolls like you who conveniently ignore them and make up their own crap when the facts don't fit their agenda.

Mods need to take out the trash and you need to be in the first dumpster.

Right, an ignorant Memphis noob who can't post any facts wants the mods to remove a long-timer Big East poster with a perfect reputation on this board? Par for the course ... 01-wingedeagle

Your reputation is not perfect - there were neg reps before this thread and more of them as a result of this thread. I thought you wanted to stick to facts?
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