McMurphy is a legit source. This might finally be true and be done with it.

And here's confirmation from the San Diego paper:

Brent Schrotenboer Wrote:San Diego State is set to announce a move to the Big East Conference in football Wednesday and is likely to join the Big West in other sports, sources close to the situation said.

Last-minute minor snags could delay the announcement, but the decision to move in football is virtually certain. The San Diego Union-Tribune reported last week that SDSU was closing in on the football move and that the Western Athletic Conference also could be an option for SDSU’s other sports, if not the Big West.

Link to full article in the U-T: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/...-big-east/

Announce and prosper.

(12-06-2011 02:19 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 01:59 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I'd like to think that C-USA, it's defectors, the BE, WVU, and the B-XII are all working something out behind the scenes that would insure everyone being able to field a viable conference. Highly doubt it, but one can always hope.

Seems like the ACC is cool with Pitt/SU staying around as long as it takes... If the C-USA trio is able to come in early, then I'm fine with sending off WVU with a fine farewell. Ten teams next year with a nine game conference schedule? Perfect for us, with two slots to fill.

I continue to disagree with this stance. I think the Big East needs to enforce every rule it's got in its arsenal if it hopes to defend itself in the future. Clearly the old exit fee and the 27-month waiting period were not enough to protect us. I'm not sure what would be enough, though I suspect that a Big-12-style 6-10-year agreement might do the trick.

But one thing's for certain: Every requirement that's waived now will only come back and bite us in the rear in the future when somebody else wants out and hangs their hat on the precedent set with WVU. And if the courts nullify the waiting period, that's even worse: That means that no conference is safe from falling apart because no previous agreements will be able to be enforced.

The Big 12 is the one pushing for the Big East's agreements to be nullified, and yet, if WVU wins in court, it might well set the precedent for nullifying their own 6-year agreement, which might quickly spell an end to their conference.

So, no, I don't think the Big East will back down, and I don't think they can or should. Nor do I think the Big 12's interests would be served if the 27-month waiting period proves unenforceable.

Good points. Too bad WVU went all 'bull in a china shop' and started this... I'm sure if they had been patient, a good compromise could have been worked out between the B12, BE and CUSA. Don't tell me they 'had' to file a lawsuit a mere 6 days after announcing their departure. Sheesh.

Well, I'll never be a fan of playing in a 15-team football league, or a 19 team basketball league...

(12-06-2011 02:19 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 01:59 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I'd like to think that C-USA, it's defectors, the BE, WVU, and the B-XII are all working something out behind the scenes that would insure everyone being able to field a viable conference. Highly doubt it, but one can always hope.

Seems like the ACC is cool with Pitt/SU staying around as long as it takes... If the C-USA trio is able to come in early, then I'm fine with sending off WVU with a fine farewell. Ten teams next year with a nine game conference schedule? Perfect for us, with two slots to fill.

I continue to disagree with this stance. I think the Big East needs to enforce every rule it's got in its arsenal if it hopes to defend itself in the future. Clearly the old exit fee and the 27-month waiting period were not enough to protect us. I'm not sure what would be enough, though I suspect that a Big-12-style 6-10-year agreement might do the trick.

But one thing's for certain: Every requirement that's waived now will only come back and bite us in the rear in the future when somebody else wants out and hangs their hat on the precedent set with WVU. And if the courts nullify the waiting period, that's even worse: That means that no conference is safe from falling apart because no previous agreements will be able to be enforced.

The Big 12 is the one pushing for the Big East's agreements to be nullified, and yet, if WVU wins in court, it might well set the precedent for nullifying their own 6-year agreement, which might quickly spell an end to their conference.

So, no, I don't think the Big East will back down, and I don't think they can or should. Nor do I think the Big 12's interests would be served if the 27-month waiting period proves unenforceable.

THIS

If the BEast backs down now, it creates precedent

(12-06-2011 02:19 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 01:59 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I'd like to think that C-USA, it's defectors, the BE, WVU, and the B-XII are all working something out behind the scenes that would insure everyone being able to field a viable conference. Highly doubt it, but one can always hope.

Seems like the ACC is cool with Pitt/SU staying around as long as it takes... If the C-USA trio is able to come in early, then I'm fine with sending off WVU with a fine farewell. Ten teams next year with a nine game conference schedule? Perfect for us, with two slots to fill.

I continue to disagree with this stance. I think the Big East needs to enforce every rule it's got in its arsenal if it hopes to defend itself in the future. Clearly the old exit fee and the 27-month waiting period were not enough to protect us. I'm not sure what would be enough, though I suspect that a Big-12-style 6-10-year agreement might do the trick.

IMO, your stance puts the cart before the horse, in that it prioritizes the interests of the conference over the interests of the individual member. That's wrong, because conferences are created and/or joined by schools to advance their interests, not vice-versa. Any rule or procedure that really does fully "protect" or "defends" the Big East from having members poached by other conferences would just mean that the Big East members are in chains, trapped in the Big East conference.

As a USF supporter, i sure don't want that. I doubt most Louisville fans do either.

I am going on record and saying Air Force, Navy and BYU will never happen. So we still need two more to get to 12. So whch two of the following will be added to get to 12?

East Carolina
Memphis
Southern Miss
Temple

F that, I dont want Louisville in the West Division

The bball schools will probably want to improve bball...so I would say Memphis or Temple.

(12-06-2011 03:19 PM)Metacog Drivel Wrote:  The bball schools will probably want to improve bball...so I would say Memphis or Temple.

I agree plus they have the best TV markets as well.

(12-06-2011 01:39 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 01:30 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 01:24 PM)k5james Wrote:  Finally! Too bad we can't get it done for next year.

Too bad, indeed, K5j. You'll get a big welcome from me tomorrow, that's for sure.

The Big East: The nation's preeminent urban athletic conference.

SMU, UCF and Houston are for 2012. Got feelers out on SDSU.

That would be too good to be true.. Hope you are right, but Im not seeing that anywhere.

I don't have a problem with Louisville in the West. As long as we keep our games with USF and UC, I believe it could work out the best for us. Exposure in Texas can't hurt for UofL if they truly have Big 12 aspirations.
CJ

(12-06-2011 02:19 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 01:59 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I'd like to think that C-USA, it's defectors, the BE, WVU, and the B-XII are all working something out behind the scenes that would insure everyone being able to field a viable conference. Highly doubt it, but one can always hope.

Seems like the ACC is cool with Pitt/SU staying around as long as it takes... If the C-USA trio is able to come in early, then I'm fine with sending off WVU with a fine farewell. Ten teams next year with a nine game conference schedule? Perfect for us, with two slots to fill.

I continue to disagree with this stance. I think the Big East needs to enforce every rule it's got in its arsenal if it hopes to defend itself in the future. Clearly the old exit fee and the 27-month waiting period were not enough to protect us. I'm not sure what would be enough, though I suspect that a Big-12-style 6-10-year agreement might do the trick.

But one thing's for certain: Every requirement that's waived now will only come back and bite us in the rear in the future when somebody else wants out and hangs their hat on the precedent set with WVU. And if the courts nullify the waiting period, that's even worse: That means that no conference is safe from falling apart because no previous agreements will be able to be enforced.

The Big 12 is the one pushing for the Big East's agreements to be nullified, and yet, if WVU wins in court, it might well set the precedent for nullifying their own 6-year agreement, which might quickly spell an end to their conference.

So, no, I don't think the Big East will back down, and I don't think they can or should. Nor do I think the Big 12's interests would be served if the 27-month waiting period proves unenforceable.

They can do this if they wish. The best way to protect themselves from future raids is to assighn tier one TV rights to the conferences. That makes BE members useless to another conference. The Big East members were discussing doing just that prior to the abrupt exit of Pitt and Syracuse. Pretty sure that was why they had to leave at that moment. I expect this issue will be tacked almost immediately upon the arrival of the new members.

(12-06-2011 01:44 PM)HB Pony Dad Wrote:  We Ponyfans have been dreading a Lucy (Big East) Football Kickoff move with SMU playing Charlie Brown...



I hope we aren't yelling AUUGH! tomorrow.

lol....Lucy filled out nicely.

(12-06-2011 03:33 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don't have a problem with Louisville in the West. As long as we keep our games with USF and UC, I believe it could work out the best for us. Exposure in Texas can't hurt for UofL if they truly have Big 12 aspirations.
CJ

I'm assuming that Cincinnati-Louisville and Air Force-Navy will be protected cross-division games. Hopefully, the BE will take the Pac-12 approach and won't try to force feed any other protected games. I doubt the USF game would stay, but it practically won't change since everyone from the west is either going to play USF or UCF every year (meaning Louisville would still visit Florida every other year, only it would be rotating between USF and UCF as opposed to playing USF all of the time).

Man, our conference will have the three hottest states for recruiting in CA, FL and TX. I think this is going to be huge for recruiting for everybody.

(12-06-2011 03:39 PM)k5james Wrote:  Man, our conference will have the three hottest states for recruiting in CA, FL and TX. I think this is going to be huge for recruiting for everybody.

er, except for the fact that recruiting in those states is already saturated with major powers from other conferences?

(12-06-2011 03:35 PM)attackfrog Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 02:19 PM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 01:59 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I'd like to think that C-USA, it's defectors, the BE, WVU, and the B-XII are all working something out behind the scenes that would insure everyone being able to field a viable conference. Highly doubt it, but one can always hope.

Seems like the ACC is cool with Pitt/SU staying around as long as it takes... If the C-USA trio is able to come in early, then I'm fine with sending off WVU with a fine farewell. Ten teams next year with a nine game conference schedule? Perfect for us, with two slots to fill.

I continue to disagree with this stance. I think the Big East needs to enforce every rule it's got in its arsenal if it hopes to defend itself in the future. Clearly the old exit fee and the 27-month waiting period were not enough to protect us. I'm not sure what would be enough, though I suspect that a Big-12-style 6-10-year agreement might do the trick.

But one thing's for certain: Every requirement that's waived now will only come back and bite us in the rear in the future when somebody else wants out and hangs their hat on the precedent set with WVU. And if the courts nullify the waiting period, that's even worse: That means that no conference is safe from falling apart because no previous agreements will be able to be enforced.

The Big 12 is the one pushing for the Big East's agreements to be nullified, and yet, if WVU wins in court, it might well set the precedent for nullifying their own 6-year agreement, which might quickly spell an end to their conference.

So, no, I don't think the Big East will back down, and I don't think they can or should. Nor do I think the Big 12's interests would be served if the 27-month waiting period proves unenforceable.

They can do this if they wish. The best way to protect themselves from future raids is to assighn tier one TV rights to the conferences. That makes BE members useless to another conference. The Big East members were discussing doing just that prior to the abrupt exit of Pitt and Syracuse. Pretty sure that was why they had to leave at that moment. I expect this issue will be tacked almost immediately upon the arrival of the new members.

Spot on

(12-06-2011 03:54 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-06-2011 03:39 PM)k5james Wrote:  Man, our conference will have the three hottest states for recruiting in CA, FL and TX. I think this is going to be huge for recruiting for everybody.

er, except for the fact that recruiting in those states is already saturated with major powers from other conferences?

I don't know about Texas and Florida but CA is underrecruited big time.