http://www.ij.org/about/4057

Not smelly hippies demanding free sh*t.

Using those rules the police would own the NFL and NBA.

Unfortunattely, us modern revolutionaries face governments with access to overwhelming force - tanks, automatic weapons, an air force - while civilians have at best small arms, rifles, knives and sticks.

Violent revolutions may appeal to the fantasies of "western white boys," perhaps nurtured by novels and video games and movies, but people actually in those situations, like Mr. Caswell, have to be smarter than that.....

(10-06-2011 02:51 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Unfortunattely, us modern revolutionaries face governments with access to overwhelming force - tanks, automatic weapons, an air force - while civilians have at best small arms, rifles, knives and sticks.

...and that equipment is manned by people, 70% of which identify themselves as conservative.

(10-06-2011 02:51 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Unfortunattely, us modern revolutionaries face governments with access to overwhelming force - tanks, automatic weapons, an air force - while civilians have at best small arms, rifles, knives and sticks.

Violent revolutions may appeal to the fantasies of "western white boys," perhaps nurtured by novels and video games and movies, but people actually in those situations, like Mr. Caswell, have to be smarter than that.....

The biggest safety factor is the fact that the US military (as much as the left would love to have us believe) is not filled with mindless drones. Our officer corps is one of the most educated in the world and will not just carelessly go about ordering the killing of Americans, especially on American soil.

(10-06-2011 03:06 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 02:51 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Unfortunattely, us modern revolutionaries face governments with access to overwhelming force - tanks, automatic weapons, an air force - while civilians have at best small arms, rifles, knives and sticks.

Violent revolutions may appeal to the fantasies of "western white boys," perhaps nurtured by novels and video games and movies, but people actually in those situations, like Mr. Caswell, have to be smarter than that.....

The biggest safety factor is the fact that the US military (as much as the left would love to have us believe) is not filled with mindless drones. Our officer corps is one of the most educated in the world and will not just carelessly go about ordering the killing of Americans, especially on American soil.

This. The oath is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States....then obey the commands of leadership. There is such a thing as an unlawful order. The most recent MOH recipient disobeyed a direct order from his superior, and risked his life anyways, saving several men.

I can see why this public nuisance needs to go (from 2/15/11):

Two Days, Four Incidents, Nine Arrests at Motel Caswell
Tewksbury Police made nine arrests involving four separate incidents at the Motel Caswell, 450 Main St., over the weekend.

The arrests resulted in charges including larceny of a motor vehicle, drug possession, minor in possession of alcohol and several outstanding warrants.

The first incident took place early Saturday morning, just before 1 a.m., when the clerk working the night desk at the Motel Caswell called police to report that there were people in Room 231 that he wanted to leave and would not.

Several officers converged on the motel and four North Reading residents, two males and two females, were taken into custody.

Kelly McNeil, 24, 10 Green St., North Reading, was charged with trespass.

Derek Hughes, 18, 103 Main St., North Reading, was charged with possession of a Class E substance, as well as two outstanding warrants.

Kevin Blake, 18, of North Reading, was charged with furnishing alcohol to a minor, being the social host who is criminally responsible, being under 21 in possession of alcohol and trespass.

Colleen Coughlin, 23, 10 Burditt Road, North Reading, was charged with trespass.

On Sunday morning, just before 9 a.m., when Officer Alysia Russo stopped to check out a suspicious vehicle in the Motel Caswell parking lot. A vehicle check showed the car had been stolen in Salisbury.

Three additional units proceeded to the motel to back up officer Russo and two individuals staying at the motel, a male and a female, were arrested.

Shaun Strong, 28, listed as homeless, was arrested on two outstanding warrants. Briar Pare, 128 Ocean Drive, Seabrook, NH, was arrested on two outstanding warrants and was also charged with larceny of a motor vehicle.

Later that day, just before 1 p.m., police executed warrants and arrested two more people staying at Motel Caswell. Matthew E. Ponte, 26, of 499 Boston Road, Apt. 1104, Billerica and Katherine Dobbins, 12 9th St., Apt. 403, Medford, were both taken into custody on the outstanding warrants. Dobbins was also charged with possession of a Class C substance.

Two hours later, police were back at the motel again, this time to arrest Mark J. Szczesuil, 44, 102 Lowell St., Apt. 309, North Reading, on two outstanding warrants.

But I don't really agree with taking it away and not compensating the owners for at least it's fair market value.

That is NOT a damn reason to seize someone's property. That happens at bars all over the f'n city.

Good to know what you think about the US Constitution though.

(10-06-2011 03:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I can see why this public nuisance needs to go (from 2/15/11):

Did you mean to put sarcasm tags in this? I hope so....

Quote:The first incident took place early Saturday morning, just before 1 a.m., when the clerk working the night desk at the Motel Caswell called police to report that there were people in Room 231 that he wanted to leave and would not.

Lesson one is apparently "Do not call police when you need assitance in removing trespassers."

Quote:On Sunday morning, just before 9 a.m., when Officer Alysia Russo stopped to check out a suspicious vehicle in the Motel Caswell parking lot. A vehicle check showed the car had been stolen in Salisbury.

Lesson two is apparently it's the hotel owners fault that the police, who where just driving by and were not called by the hotel owner, felt a vehicle was suspicious?

What a strange world.

BTW, I know a couple Red Roof Inns in the west Chicago suburbs that would qualify for forfeiture from just one regular Friday night....

Rebel, that weekend was not a one time thing. Go do some research. The locals all say this motel was nothing more than a place for prostitutes, drugs and prom parties for decades.

Motel Caswell

The Motel Caswell on Main Street has been the subject of more than 100 narcotics investigations since 1994, according to Tewksbury police.

At the same time, the property is among the top three locations Tewksbury police have responded to this year alone -- an address that has found itself at the center of narcotics, prostitution, assault and rape cases over the years.

"It's a black eye to Tewksbury," Selectman David Gay said yesterday. "It's been a constant thorn in the town's side since I started living here 20 years ago. This couldn't come soon enough."

"I think even the townspeople who don't want to see change -- who want Tewksbury to stay the way it is -- won't be shedding tears over this," Selectman Scott Wilson added. "It has a very negative image in town ... yet it's almost the entryway into Tewksbury. I think it could be turned into something really nice."

Among the most notable cases was the discovery in October 2005 of a methamphetamine lab run out of room 255 by a 35-year-old Tewksbury man. He was sentenced to three years in prison after pleading guilty.

Casey's affidavit details the arrests of 10 other people caught dealing heroin, cocaine and prescription drugs out of rooms at the Motel Caswell -- with one case alone leading to the seizure of 190 baggies containing heroin.

Almost all of the investigations relied on the use of confidential informants or undercover police officers.

One informant told police in 2004 that a clerk at the motel had directed her to a different room than expected, saying that the dealer "had changed rooms ... due to suspected police activity."

More examples of asset seizures...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...73870.html

(10-06-2011 04:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Rebel, that weekend was not a one time thing. Go do some research. The locals all say this motel was nothing more than a place for prostitutes, drugs and prom parties for decades.

Well then you force it to close. And maybe the owner has to sell the property.

(10-06-2011 04:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Rebel, that weekend was not a one time thing. Go do some research. The locals all say this motel was nothing more than a place for prostitutes, drugs and prom parties for decades.

Prostitutes and drugs......things the left has been trying to legalize for years.

(10-06-2011 04:44 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 04:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Rebel, that weekend was not a one time thing. Go do some research. The locals all say this motel was nothing more than a place for prostitutes, drugs and prom parties for decades.

Well then you force it to close. And maybe the owner has to sell the property.

Exactly. The owners weren't charged with anything.

Proms are criminal?

(10-06-2011 05:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Proms are criminal?

Depends on her age.

The Institute for Justice is a great organization. You'll only hear about this sort of thing from Reason, CATO, and IJ. The Republicans won't do a damned thing about this behavior, which is 9 times out of 10 hidden behind the title of "The War on Drugs". In the GOP candidate side, only Ron Paul and Gary Johnson would deal with this issue.

(10-06-2011 05:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Proms are criminal?

C'mon Paul, you damned well know what a prom party is.

But just in case; it usually involves high school kids, alcohol, and underage sex.

(10-07-2011 08:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-06-2011 05:54 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Proms are criminal?

C'mon Paul, you damned well know what a prom party is.

But just in case; it usually involves high school kids, alcohol, and underage sex.

And that's just at the pre-party........