Nothing surprises me when it comes to the stupidity of the average American concerning politics. The last 2 years is enough evidence for me.

It's the economy, stupid.

If we're doing much better a year from now, Obama gets a second term. If we're doing much worse, he loses. About the same, it could be close.

My own expectation is that a year from now, we'll be thinking of this as the good old days.

(06-09-2011 09:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  It's the economy, stupid.

If we're doing much better a year from now, Obama gets a second term. If we're doing much worse, he loses. About the same, it could be close.

My own expectation is that a year from now, we'll be thinking of this as the good old days.

I agree....but....Ill take Barry again if that means the economy will turn around. It is that important that it does. I talked to my guy yesterday...I'm in the process of preparing to "hunker down" and protect myself and my family from the impending disaster that I see ahead.

(06-09-2011 01:24 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Keep telling yourself the Big O is gonna get reelected... it simply isn't gonna happen.

Yeah, it is. The Republicans are only offering up sacrificial lambs.

(06-09-2011 10:01 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2011 09:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  It's the economy, stupid.
If we're doing much better a year from now, Obama gets a second term. If we're doing much worse, he loses. About the same, it could be close.
My own expectation is that a year from now, we'll be thinking of this as the good old days.

I agree....but....Ill take Barry again if that means the economy will turn around. It is that important that it does. I talked to my guy yesterday...I'm in the process of preparing to "hunker down" and protect myself and my family from the impending disaster that I see ahead.

Agree totally. I'll take an economic turnaround no matter who has to bring it about. But I don't see anything that Obama has done, is doing, or has talked about doing in the future that will impact our economy positively. Unfortunately, the best I can say for republicans is that things may get worse more slowly if they're in charge.

(06-09-2011 09:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If we're doing much better a year from now, Obama gets a second term.

True.

Quote:If we're doing much worse, he loses.

True.

Quote:About the same, it could be close.

If the next 16 months are anything like the last 16 months, Obama will lose by 55-45 to just about any GOPer who doesn't have a criminal record.

(06-09-2011 10:01 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I agree....but....Ill take Barry again if that means the economy will turn around. It is that important that it does.

Is there any scenario where re-electing Obama means the economy will turn around?

(06-09-2011 10:01 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-09-2011 09:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  It's the economy, stupid.

If we're doing much better a year from now, Obama gets a second term. If we're doing much worse, he loses. About the same, it could be close.

My own expectation is that a year from now, we'll be thinking of this as the good old days.

I agree....but....Ill take Barry again if that means the economy will turn around. It is that important that it does. I talked to my guy yesterday...I'm in the process of preparing to "hunker down" and protect myself and my family from the impending disaster that I see ahead.

"My guy", "hunker down"? You sound like a loon when you say crap like that. I guess it shouldn't surprise me though since you ARE a loon.

(06-11-2011 02:16 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-09-2011 09:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If we're doing much better a year from now, Obama gets a second term.

True.

Quote:If we're doing much worse, he loses.

True.

Quote:About the same, it could be close.

If the next 16 months are anything like the last 16 months, Obama will lose by 55-45 to just about any GOPer who doesn't have a criminal record.

So you're saying he's guaranteed a second term.

(06-11-2011 06:12 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(06-11-2011 02:16 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-09-2011 09:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If we're doing much better a year from now, Obama gets a second term.

True.

Quote:If we're doing much worse, he loses.

True.

Quote:About the same, it could be close.

If the next 16 months are anything like the last 16 months, Obama will lose by 55-45 to just about any GOPer who doesn't have a criminal record.

So you're saying he's guaranteed a second term.

Under Scenario #1, yes.

If it's #2 or #3... I think he's guaranteed to lose, and with a good chance of losing in a landslide like Jimmy Carter did in 1980.

Even the Domino or Little Caesars pizza guy could beat him.

(06-11-2011 08:33 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Under Scenario #1, yes.

If it's #2 or #3... I think he's guaranteed to lose, and with a good chance of losing in a landslide like Jimmy Carter did in 1980.

(06-11-2011 08:42 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Even the Domino or Little Caesars pizza guy could beat him.

You two have been hitting the crack pipe too hard. Obama, despite the unemployment rates, still has a higher than 50% approval rating. He leads every single Republican candidate in countless polls.

The fact remains that he's still popular. Not with you right-wing loons, but with the Democrats and Independents. No Republican is polling well with independents.

Unless the country takes a major nose-dive, which it won't, he'll win an easy reelection.

(06-11-2011 08:42 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Even the Domino or Little Caesars pizza guy could beat him.

There is no way in hell you could beat him.

Obama is no way a sure thing. Next year at this time the primaries will be wrapping up and Repulicans will have their nominee and united. Obama will own the economy 100%. He can't just say George Bush eight years blah, blah, blah like he did his first two and a half yeasr. American people will ask are things getting better or our we just settling for 10% unemployment and 15 trillion in debt. The issue with Obama is stupid decisions like the nlrb going after Boeing which built a factory in South Carolina creating jobs and Obama wants to stop that to protect union jobs in Washington while taking away new jobs in South Carolina that Boeing created. Goverment interfering with a company's operations.

Quote:Obama, despite the unemployment rates, still has a higher than 50% approval rating. He leads every single Republican candidate in countless polls

The fact remains that he's still popular. Not with you right-wing loons, but with the Democrats and Independents. No Republican is polling well with independents.

Unless the country takes a major nose-dive, which it won't, he'll win an easy reelection.

I'd like to blame this on you being high, but you're really just stupid.

Gallup has him at 46% approval.

He is at 41% in PA and the mid 40's in FL. If Obama can't win PA, he can't win period.

Your stupid comment about the economy not taking a nose dive when we are in the midst of it getting worse shows how absolutely ignorant you are. Housing prices are down to levels not seen since 2004, unemployment is going back up, there is next to no growth in the economy, at least none that makes any difference. And yet you're still moronic enough to claim Obama's reelection is a walk.

It's one thing to be a partisan hack and try and spin things, it's very much another to completely ignore reality in defense of a president who has been a near total failure in his first term.

Fool.

(06-12-2011 07:43 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

Quote:Obama, despite the unemployment rates, still has a higher than 50% approval rating. He leads every single Republican candidate in countless polls

The fact remains that he's still popular. Not with you right-wing loons, but with the Democrats and Independents. No Republican is polling well with independents.

Unless the country takes a major nose-dive, which it won't, he'll win an easy reelection.

I'd like to blame this on you being high, but you're really just stupid.

Gallup has him at 46% approval.

He is at 41% in PA and the mid 40's in FL. If Obama can't win PA, he can't win period.

Your stupid comment about the economy not taking a nose dive when we are in the midst of it getting worse shows how absolutely ignorant you are. Housing prices are down to levels not seen since 2004, unemployment is going back up, there is next to no growth in the economy, at least none that makes any difference. And yet you're still moronic enough to claim Obama's reelection is a walk.

It's one thing to be a partisan hack and try and spin things, it's very much another to completely ignore reality in defense of a president who has been a near total failure in his first term.

Fool.

Thanks for clearing things up for us.

(06-12-2011 07:43 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  I Am A Fool.

I gathered that.

(06-11-2011 10:01 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(06-11-2011 08:33 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Under Scenario #1, yes.

If it's #2 or #3... I think he's guaranteed to lose, and with a good chance of losing in a landslide like Jimmy Carter did in 1980.

(06-11-2011 08:42 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Even the Domino or Little Caesars pizza guy could beat him.

You two have been hitting the crack pipe too hard. Obama, despite the unemployment rates, still has a higher than 50% approval rating. He leads every single Republican candidate in countless polls.

The fact remains that he's still popular. Not with you right-wing loons, but with the Democrats and Independents. No Republican is polling well with independents.

Unless the country takes a major nose-dive, which it won't, he'll win an easy reelection.

Gallup and Rasmussen polls both show Obama being under 50% for approval. On top of that, Obama already has a solid "floor" of disapproval that will likely stay because of the struggling economy. The floor I am referring to is the percentage of people who will not vote no on Obama no matter what because they feel he does not deserve a 2nd term. The real story is the amount of people who strongly approve. The approval numbers can be skewed a number of ways by either rephrasing questions to illicit a specific response or by oversampling specific voter blocs (either based on sex, party affiliation, race, etc).

Show me the polls that show independents breaking in favor of Obama. From what I've seen, both independent and GOP voters are not in favor of Obama.

(06-12-2011 10:16 PM)TOGC Wrote:  I have sex with sheep.

I gathered that.

But I take your stupid responses as a compliment. It means you can't refute what I've said with facts or reason, so you have to fall back on childish antics. It's who you libs are.

(06-13-2011 08:53 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(06-12-2011 10:16 PM)TOGC Wrote:  I have sex with sheep.

I gathered that.

But I take your stupid responses as a compliment. It means you can't refute what I've said with facts or reason, so you have to fall back on childish antics. It's who you libs are.

theChit4brains' life is a monument to mendacious stupidity.