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Georgia Legislative Black Caucus just started a War.
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Lawsuit seeks dissolution of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton, Chattahoochee Hills
Suit says 'super-majority white neighborhoods' were created


The Georgia Legislative Black Caucus filed a lawsuit Monday against the state of Georgia seeking to dissolve the city charters of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton and Chattahoochee Hills. Further, the lawmakers, joined by civil rights leader the Rev. Joseph Lowery, aim to dash any hopes of a Milton County.

The lawsuit, filed in a North Georgia U.S. District Court Monday, claims that the state circumvented the normal legislative process and set aside its own criteria when creating the “super-majority white ” cities within Fulton and DeKalb counties. The result, it argues, is to dilute minority votes in those areas, violating the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution.

“This suit is based on the idea that African Americans and other minorities can elect the people of their choice,” said Democratic State Sen. Vincent Fort.

The Office of the Governor and the Office of the Attorney General declined comment pending further review of the case.

Rep. Lynne Riley, R-Johns Creek, called the lawsuit “frivolous” and “disrespectful to the citizens of these cities who are most satisfied with their government.”

Riley was active in creating Sandy Springs and the subsequent cities while serving as a Fulton County commissioner.

“These jurisdictions were based on geography and nothing else,” she said. “We haven’t seen any evidence of any disadvantage based on the creation of new cities. We’ve watched the Fulton County budget continue to grow … to say there was damage done by this creation, there are no facts to support that, and I would reject it.”

Lead attorney Jerome Lee, of Taylor Lee & Associates, said the suit is novel.

“The Voting Rights Act forbids a state from doing anything that affects the voting rights of minorities, except with a permissible purpose,” he said, citing the redistricting that takes place when the census documents population shifts. “In this case, it’s different because the state actually went outside the normal redistricting process and created these cities that have no meaningful state purpose.”

According to the 2010 census, Fulton County is 44.5 percent white and 44.1 percent black. About 54 percent of DeKalb County residents are black, and 33.3 percent are white.

Sandy Springs, created in 2005, is 65 percent white and 20 percent black. Milton, formed a year later, is 76.6 percent white and 9 percent black. Johns Creek, also formed that year, is 63.5 percent white and 9.2 percent black. Chattahoochee Hills, formed in 2007, is 68.6 percent white and 28 percent black, while Dunwoody, created in 2008, is 69.8 percent white and 12.6 percent black.

Emory University law professor Michael Kang said the case is unique because the Voting Rights Act focuses on redistricting, whereas this lawsuit challenges the legality of cities. Kang, who has not reviewed the case in its entirety, said the plaintiffs will likely have to show evidence of discriminatory purpose to have a strong claim. Kane said the case has interesting implications.

“If we look at this realistically, there is some white flight going on. The creation of these Sandy Springs-type cities enables white voters to get away from black voters,” he said. “It does strike me that the Voting Rights Act might have something to say about this, but it’s unknown what the courts will say about it.”

Johns Creek Mayor Mike Bodker had not reviewed the suit, but he said he doesn’t believe it has merit.

“This discussion was debated even back then [when the city was formed], and it failed to pass muster back then, so I don’t know why it would be different today,” he said. “It seems the clock has run on this issue.”

Lee expressed hope that the involved parties could work out a compromise outside of dissolution of the cities.

“There is a fundamental issue here that needs to really be addressed. I don’t know who the person is to forge the path forward. In theory it’s our governor and commander in chief, but I don’t know if anyone is willing to risk the political capital necessary to sit down and hammer out a solution on this,” Lee said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/lawsuit-seeks-di...88729.html
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Quote:Lawsuit seeks dissolution of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton, Chattahoochee Hills Suit says 'super-majority white neighborhoods' were created

Of course they were, by you incompetent f'n Dim'o'crats who can't govern a city worth a damn. You can't force people to live in your district.
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Translation: They have money. We, the governing class, want it.

Actually ... that's probably not even how they view it. In their mind it's closer to: They have our money. We, the governing class, want it back.
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People have the right of free association under the constitution. Case closed.
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This will be dismissed very quickly.

Of course, in federal district-court terms, "very quickly" sometimes = 6-8 months. But still, this lawsuit is a joke and will not achieve anything except increased animosity.
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(04-01-2011 10:43 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This will be dismissed very quickly.

Of course, in federal district-court terms, "very quickly" sometimes = 6-8 months. But still, this lawsuit is a joke and will not achieve anything except increased animosity.

The "increased animosity" is the goal. It's vogue for balcks to up the ante with their new found righteous indignation. This lawsuit is all about playing the race card. In Houston, Sheila Jackson Lee reins from a district that is mostly black. Should the crackers in their righteous indignation file suit to dilute that hotbed of inequity.
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(04-01-2011 09:00 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Translation: They have money. We, the governing class, want it.

Pretty much. These cities took years to create (Milton pushed for a new county, but the state constitution limits the # of counties, and I'm 24 and don't remember a time Sandy Springs wasn't trying to become a city).

Soon enough these cities will become a new county, separate from Fulton county (Atlanta). This is an attempt to keep the new county from forming and continue to send $ from the "rich white suburbs" to Atlanta. In actuality, these 'burbs are growing with all races (black, asian and mexican mostly), and it is somewhat creating their own identity away from Atlanta.
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(04-01-2011 11:08 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 10:43 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This will be dismissed very quickly.

Of course, in federal district-court terms, "very quickly" sometimes = 6-8 months. But still, this lawsuit is a joke and will not achieve anything except increased animosity.

The "increased animosity" is the goal. It's vogue for balcks to up the ante with their new found righteous indignation. This lawsuit is all about playing the race card. In Houston, Sheila Jackson Lee reins from a district that is mostly black. Should the crackers in their righteous indignation file suit to dilute that hotbed of inequity.

No...They should file suit against SJL for simply having the worst hairdoo in America. There has to be a family or two living in that thing.04-cheers
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(04-01-2011 08:55 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
Quote:Lawsuit seeks dissolution of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton, Chattahoochee Hills Suit says 'super-majority white neighborhoods' were created

Of course they were, by you incompetent f'n Dim'o'crats who can't govern a city worth a damn. You can't force people to live in your district.
No but you can keep them out through various means.
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(04-01-2011 10:43 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This will be dismissed very quickly.

Of course, in federal district-court terms, "very quickly" sometimes = 6-8 months. But still, this lawsuit is a joke and will not achieve anything except increased animosity.
Don't you mean increased cross burnings and lynchings? Are you going to go join in the party NG? 05-stirthepot
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(04-01-2011 11:16 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 09:00 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Translation: They have money. We, the governing class, want it.

Pretty much. These cities took years to create (Milton pushed for a new county, but the state constitution limits the # of counties, and I'm 24 and don't remember a time Sandy Springs wasn't trying to become a city).

Soon enough these cities will become a new county, separate from Fulton county (Atlanta). This is an attempt to keep the new county from forming and continue to send $ from the "rich white suburbs" to Atlanta. In actuality, these 'burbs are growing with all races (black, asian and mexican mostly), and it is somewhat creating their own identity away from Atlanta.

I sense paranoia among the Black legislators. Like this is their "last stand" because they know there will be more cities forming and cutting the tax base for social programs.

Actually its a win-win situation. The Northern Suburbs get responsible government and the unincorporated residents of Dekalb and Fulton Counties will finally see how corrupt their County Commissions are (if they dont know already).

Fort is a real race baiter. He was the "joker" that suggested the Whites want to lynch the Blacks that venture north of I-285.
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(04-01-2011 11:34 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 11:16 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 09:00 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Translation: They have money. We, the governing class, want it.

Pretty much. These cities took years to create (Milton pushed for a new county, but the state constitution limits the # of counties, and I'm 24 and don't remember a time Sandy Springs wasn't trying to become a city).

Soon enough these cities will become a new county, separate from Fulton county (Atlanta). This is an attempt to keep the new county from forming and continue to send $ from the "rich white suburbs" to Atlanta. In actuality, these 'burbs are growing with all races (black, asian and mexican mostly), and it is somewhat creating their own identity away from Atlanta.

I sense paranoia among the Black legislators. Like this is their "last stand" because they know there will be more cities forming and cutting the tax base for social programs.

Actually its a win-win situation. The Northern Suburbs get responsible government and the unincorporated residents of Dekalb and Fulton Counties will finally see how corrupt their County Commissions are (if they dont know already).

Fort is a real race baiter. He was the "joker" that suggested the Whites want to lynch the Blacks that venture north of I-285.
Seems like a good bet this is probably true based on what I have heard of and from Georgia.
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(04-01-2011 11:53 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 11:34 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 11:16 AM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 09:00 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Translation: They have money. We, the governing class, want it.

Pretty much. These cities took years to create (Milton pushed for a new county, but the state constitution limits the # of counties, and I'm 24 and don't remember a time Sandy Springs wasn't trying to become a city).

Soon enough these cities will become a new county, separate from Fulton county (Atlanta). This is an attempt to keep the new county from forming and continue to send $ from the "rich white suburbs" to Atlanta. In actuality, these 'burbs are growing with all races (black, asian and mexican mostly), and it is somewhat creating their own identity away from Atlanta.

I sense paranoia among the Black legislators. Like this is their "last stand" because they know there will be more cities forming and cutting the tax base for social programs.

Actually its a win-win situation. The Northern Suburbs get responsible government and the unincorporated residents of Dekalb and Fulton Counties will finally see how corrupt their County Commissions are (if they dont know already).

Fort is a real race baiter. He was the "joker" that suggested the Whites want to lynch the Blacks that venture north of I-285.
Seems like a good bet this is probably true based on what I have heard of and from Georgia.

I'm sure it is safe for a white man to walk around anywhere in Metro Atlanta.
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(04-01-2011 11:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 08:55 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
Quote:Lawsuit seeks dissolution of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton, Chattahoochee Hills Suit says 'super-majority white neighborhoods' were created

Of course they were, by you incompetent f'n Dim'o'crats who can't govern a city worth a damn. You can't force people to live in your district.
No but you can keep them out through various means.

Who is "them"? Black people? There are well off black people all OVER Dunwoody and Alpharetta, as well as Sandy Springs.

Stick to what you know, cupcake.
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(04-01-2011 12:16 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 11:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 08:55 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
Quote:Lawsuit seeks dissolution of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton, Chattahoochee Hills Suit says 'super-majority white neighborhoods' were created

Of course they were, by you incompetent f'n Dim'o'crats who can't govern a city worth a damn. You can't force people to live in your district.
No but you can keep them out through various means.

Who is "them"? Black people? There are well off black people all OVER Dunwoody and Alpharetta, as well as Sandy Springs.

Stick to what you know, cupcake.

But then what could he talk about?
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(04-01-2011 11:34 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  He was the "joker" that suggested the Whites want to lynch the Blacks that venture north of I-285.

Then he would have been against the North Springs MARTA station (and all the $ from it) I guess? Since the opponents of it were labeled as racists wanting to keep blacks out of their suburbs.

We could have an entire forum about MARTA crap. The "Yellow" line objections because it ended in a high asian populated area were a good laugh too. They just re-named it "Gold". They still use the color yellow.
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(04-01-2011 12:16 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 11:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 08:55 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
Quote:Lawsuit seeks dissolution of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton, Chattahoochee Hills Suit says 'super-majority white neighborhoods' were created

Of course they were, by you incompetent f'n Dim'o'crats who can't govern a city worth a damn. You can't force people to live in your district.
No but you can keep them out through various means.

Who is "them"? Black people? There are well off black people all OVER Dunwoody and Alpharetta, as well as Sandy Springs.

Stick to what you know, cupcake.
Yeah, I see what you are talking about. Dunwoody is about 4.4% black. Alpharetta seems a little more welcoming at almost 6.5%. O am impressed with Sandy Springs though-12%. I did notice that the city had recently lost population. White flight?
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(04-01-2011 01:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Yeah, I see what you are talking about. Dunwoody is about 4.4% black. Alpharetta seems a little more welcoming at almost 6.5%. O am impressed with Sandy Springs though-12%. I did notice that the city had recently lost population. White flight?

Unless blacks are banned from that area, which they are NOT, I guess you can just shut your f'n piehole. ...unless you think blacks should be forced to live somewhere. Is that what you're saying?
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BTW, the affluence of blacks, or lack thereof, can be laid directly at the feet of Democrat policies.
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(04-01-2011 01:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 12:16 PM)Rebel Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 11:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-01-2011 08:55 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
Quote:Lawsuit seeks dissolution of Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton, Chattahoochee Hills Suit says 'super-majority white neighborhoods' were created

Of course they were, by you incompetent f'n Dim'o'crats who can't govern a city worth a damn. You can't force people to live in your district.
No but you can keep them out through various means.

Who is "them"? Black people? There are well off black people all OVER Dunwoody and Alpharetta, as well as Sandy Springs.

Stick to what you know, cupcake.
Yeah, I see what you are talking about. Dunwoody is about 4.4% black. Alpharetta seems a little more welcoming at almost 6.5%. O am impressed with Sandy Springs though-12%. I did notice that the city had recently lost population. White flight?

you do know that 12% is a normal distribution, right? Blacks account for 12.3% of the US population, which makes Sandy Springs black population quite representative of the nation as a whole
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