Testy fan begging crap azz CMU team to avenge his embarrassment

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Posted: Today 1:53 AM
RE: Scuffle at the BSU vs WMU game
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2. things:

1. I wish your players safety in the game Saturday

2. Pound those punks with or without Whitfield.

Don't sick a couple of suburban white breads on a PSL stud who out weighs you by 30 pounds of pure muscle. The outcome is as sure as the 17 point waxing your weaksauce team took last night.

whatever. they want to pin a 17 point loss on that so be it. Randy Davis as much as he looked innocent ran in and punched whitfield...he was bragging about it to everyone on Ball State's bench.

by the end of the game, before they pulled Davis (b/c he would have picked up his 5th foul) our section was razzing him. Even chanting "Randy Davis." The kid broke the "cardinal" rule (pun intended?) and acknowledged us...

good game. Now I did not see the fight, however, there is always two sides to every story. And CMU scares me, for the health of our players...not the other way around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

What are these babies complaining about?

Kamamineci pulls Whit to the floor. Whit disposes of him. Then Davies tries to get in on the action, and Whit pins him to the floor and lets him know he's dead meat.

Then they whine like the babies they showed themselves to be and hope that a weaksauce garbage team from Mt. Pee will avenge their embarrassment.

Yeah, isn't Central the team that broke some guys hand on a breakaway dunk in a 15 point game in the last minute?

So what is this.
There is a utube of a scuffle but nothing of that awesome dunk by Nate

That was Combria. Might have been his defensive play of the year. Pretty much kept Miami from winning the East.

Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Kaminieckis pulldown was the nastiest part of that whole deal, he hooked his arm and had his leg in a bad spot. I'd be pissed too if I were Flen.

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

You did so well as a guest coach last night you should be given the task in Mt. Pee on Saturday.

What was the locker room like after the game?

"Davis (#3) comes to the rescue"

so that is okay...didn't Douglas "come to the rescue" as well.

The pull down by Kam-in-piece-of-shitti was the worst part and the catalyst of the whole ordeal.

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

Please watch 1:08-1:12 and 1:47-1:50.

If you don't see a punch from whitfield to Kam's back, then http://businessfinder.mlive.com/MI-Kalamazoo/Eye-Care might do you good.

Here's a picture:



My count has:
Whitfield 1 punch 1 strangle hold
Douglass one shove to the ground.

There is no way Kamieniecki is strong enough to take down a beast like Whitfield. Whitfield's momentum knocked them both down.

(03-03-2011 02:41 PM)thomrandal Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

Please watch 1:08-1:12 and 1:47-1:50.

If you don't see a punch from whitfield to Kam's back, then http://businessfinder.mlive.com/MI-Kalamazoo/Eye-Care might do you good.

Here's a picture:



My count has:
Whitfield 1 punch 1 strangle hold
Douglass one shove to the ground.

There is no way Kamieniecki is strong enough to take down a beast like Whitfield. Whitfield's momentum knocked them both down.

Who Cares? does not deny the fact the "ball is not a state" is now second in the Mac West.

I don't know about eye doctors...however, I recommend Kalamazoo Optometry.

It does not take a genius, or an expert in physics to know that 210lbs (Kamieniecki) positioned/leveraged can move 230lbs (Whitfield).

Kamieniecki was the reason for the incident. Davis should have never come "to the rescue" as your announcers so eloquently put it. Mike Douglas should have never come over either...but then again your coach was also on our side of the court when the incident was going on. Should he have inserted himself? Seems like the refs had it under control...then Davis came "to the rescue".

Good luck putting lipstick on this pig!

I will give you this...it was an unfortunate incident...in an otherwise good game. Both teams were playing hard and making baskets...then this happened, and the rest of the game went WMU's way.

Also Davis' later technical was weak...what did he do to deserve the 'T'?

I thought it was a little premature to T him up...he was mouthing...but not exactly in the refs face.

(03-03-2011 02:58 PM)JBStemp5 Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 02:41 PM)thomrandal Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

Please watch 1:08-1:12 and 1:47-1:50.

If you don't see a punch from whitfield to Kam's back, then http://businessfinder.mlive.com/MI-Kalamazoo/Eye-Care might do you good.

Here's a picture:



My count has:
Whitfield 1 punch 1 strangle hold
Douglass one shove to the ground.

There is no way Kamieniecki is strong enough to take down a beast like Whitfield. Whitfield's momentum knocked them both down.

Who Cares? does not deny the fact the "ball is not a state" is now second in the Mac West.

I only see one hand on Davis' shoulder...I don't see the other hand "strangling."

The real question is this...why is Whitfield on the ground? Followed by...why is Davis involved?

Oh that's right, Davis was there to "rescue" Kamieniecki.

I think if you answer the questions above you will see this incident revolves around actions started by Kamieniecki.

(03-03-2011 02:41 PM)thomrandal Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

Please watch 1:08-1:12 and 1:47-1:50.

If you don't see a punch from whitfield to Kam's back, then http://businessfinder.mlive.com/MI-Kalamazoo/Eye-Care might do you good.

Here's a picture:



My count has:
Whitfield 1 punch 1 strangle hold
Douglass one shove to the ground.

There is no way Kamieniecki is strong enough to take down a beast like Whitfield. Whitfield's momentum knocked them both down.

Whitfield and Douglass= Thugs

(03-03-2011 03:06 PM)chip90 Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 02:41 PM)thomrandal Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

Please watch 1:08-1:12 and 1:47-1:50.

If you don't see a punch from whitfield to Kam's back, then http://businessfinder.mlive.com/MI-Kalamazoo/Eye-Care might do you good.

Here's a picture:



My count has:
Whitfield 1 punch 1 strangle hold
Douglass one shove to the ground.

There is no way Kamieniecki is strong enough to take down a beast like Whitfield. Whitfield's momentum knocked them both down.

Whitfield and Douglass= Thugs

...and were off! "Thugs"

Why don't you just use the "N" word...you are so transparent. I have met both of these kids, and they are far from "thugs". They will both graduate, unlike a percentage of your players. Was Nate Minnoy a "thug"?

Further, should a CMU loyalist be calling our players "thugs" without calling his own player's "thugs"?

Grow up.

(03-03-2011 03:05 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 02:58 PM)JBStemp5 Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 02:41 PM)thomrandal Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

Please watch 1:08-1:12 and 1:47-1:50.

If you don't see a punch from whitfield to Kam's back, then http://businessfinder.mlive.com/MI-Kalamazoo/Eye-Care might do you good.

Here's a picture:



My count has:
Whitfield 1 punch 1 strangle hold
Douglass one shove to the ground.

There is no way Kamieniecki is strong enough to take down a beast like Whitfield. Whitfield's momentum knocked them both down.

Who Cares? does not deny the fact the "ball is not a state" is now second in the Mac West.

I only see one hand on Davis' shoulder...I don't see the other hand "strangling."

The real question is this...why is Whitfield on the ground? Followed by...why is Davis involved?

Oh that's right, Davis was there to "rescue" Kamieniecki.

I think if you answer the questions above you will see this incident revolves around actions started by Kamieniecki.

All you have to do is watch the video. Whitfield leaves Kamieniecki and jumps on Davis who was shoved down by douglas. this isn't rocket science.

(03-03-2011 02:58 PM)JBStemp5 Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 02:41 PM)thomrandal Wrote:  

(03-03-2011 12:12 PM)acer1 Wrote:  Contrary to these boys from Ball State, there were no punches thrown in the melee, and Whitfield was not the agressor. He simply pinned Kamieniecki to the floor when suddenly Davis and two other BSU players entered the fracas. There was a referee trying to separate Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Davis arrived on the scene. At one point there was three BSU players and a referee trying to get between Whitfield and Kamieniecki when Mikey showed up on the scene.

Much to do about nothing, and the refs did the right thing at that point by calling a double technical. I found the video interesting in that they mentioned Kamienieckis foul as a "personal foul" and not a "technical foul". I would say that it was not an unbiased opinion.

Always proud to be a Bronco.

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNSg3cJ7gI

Please watch 1:08-1:12 and 1:47-1:50.

If you don't see a punch from whitfield to Kam's back, then http://businessfinder.mlive.com/MI-Kalamazoo/Eye-Care might do you good.

Here's a picture:



My count has:
Whitfield 1 punch 1 strangle hold
Douglass one shove to the ground.

There is no way Kamieniecki is strong enough to take down a beast like Whitfield. Whitfield's momentum knocked them both down.

Who Cares? does not deny the fact the "ball is not a state" is now second in the Mac West.

Very true... and if the MAC does it's job WMU will be without 2 of its 3 best players taking on it's archrival on the road in a must win game to keep the 2 seed.

thom it's not about strength in a take down like that it's weight, momentum and leverage, Whitfield is not strong enough to hold both up. That is a great shot but not a strangle hold, watch the video and tell me where Flen's right hand is. Answer: on the ground, don't know about you but if I'm strangling someone in that position both of my hands are on their throat supporting my full body weight against it, and as Kelaw said it's debatable that Flen's left hand is on the guys throat to begin with. Also what did Douglas see when he looked back? Three BSU players surrounding Flen on the ground, he's coming in to clear a pile off his teammate. Davis and Berry should have stayed out of it, the ref was right there to sort it out already there was no need for them to get involved. Over all there is enough there that ejecting Flen would not have been uncalled for, but nothing else over and above what was done. I don't think the refs had access to these views as normally all we have is the one camera up against the back wall, it hasn't been an issue until now but the officials need access to other views when available. Our poor camera angles have both helped and hurt in Waldo and helped us here, but I don't think it would have changed the outcome.

Guys, Flen has a history of getting into a tit for tat, remember at CMU last year? I think that is what happened here, he got tangled with Kaminieki and took it personally.

Also I don't think there is enough there to suspend Douglas from the CMU game, Flen maybe but not Mikey.