(11-23-2010 09:17 AM)mlb Wrote: (11-23-2010 01:31 AM)BringBackthe Glory Wrote: As for the Huggs/AK/ radio show thing. I could care less if Bob and Andy "literally" stood up on stage and continously flipped the bird to everyone in attendance till they walked to their car. The way those guys were treated not just by the admin. - but by those that supposedly cared about both of them - IMO gave both of them a license to do whatever the fook they wanted to do.
At the risk of being labled by Oleskl, I'd say you are the epitome of a Bob Huggins fan. Look, I've known you for a long time through here and the old BCN Forum, but I bleed red and black. I want UC to win as much or more than anybody else. I also realize that Huggins had in some ways dug his own grave. I don't like the way things were handled, and I wish it had never happened, but character is shown based on what you do when you are put in a bad situation. Revenge is generally a sign of bad character. I still root for Huggins' teams at WVU when not playing UC, but that is because I love watching the way his teams play. Personally, I lost a lost of respect for the guy after finding out what happened during the months following his dismissal.
MLB - I totally know what you're saying, and in most parts and in the majority of your posts I totally agree with you. Something you said though about character, everyone has their own definitions of what character means, though I do somewhat agree with your definition.
I was taught by my parents, especially my Dad, that character is "what you do when you don't think you are being watched by people that know you - and by what you say about someone - when that someone isn't around to hear what it is you're saying about them."
I make a point and try my hardest to remember that everyday. Bob and AK didn't "go behind" anyones back. I will never say something either on this board or in my life that I won't say to someones face in person, and that is a fact!! I'd love to meet some of the people on this board at the gatherings. But I know how I am. If someone said to my face the crap they spew on here about me - someone would be going to the hospital and someone would be going to jail. That is why I don't put myself in such places because I would have the quotes "literally" in my hand said by a few in here. I've spoke backchannel to a few of the guys "in the cool club" in here about it (and you know who you are) and in as nice a way as I could say - I told them "I can PROMISE you that you wouldn't say to my face what you type on your keyboard." Two of them, acted like they didn't know what I was even talking about.<rolling my eyes>
As for Mick. I WANT HIM TO WIN!!. That is all. That IMO isn't asking too much. Did I think he would win? Nope. Plain and simple. I think the admin. was in a bind. No one in their right mind and knowing (and trust me- EVERY COACH in Div1 knew how and WHY it went down) that it was handled the way it was would have ever came to UC. Step in Mick Cronin. He "fit" for lack of a better word, the small list that the UC admin was looking for because they couldn't be picky or they weren't going to have a coach. The main one and only one that really counted IMO was that "he screwed Bob."
Now many want to disagree with that and do the ole' shuck and jive with the "Huggs never had any coaches springing from his coaching tree" diatribe because that WAS a fact at that time and Mick wanted to become a head coach etc. etc. etc. Fine. I understand that. But there were better ways for Mick to go about it. Pitino knew who The Big Dog was in CUSA. He knew the ONE COACH that he was going to have a problem with and that was Bob Huggin's and his boys, no one can convince me any different, it's just common sense. I can't fault Pitino, as a coach he had to find the "chink in the armor" to the UC program.
And if for a second you don't think that Mick blabbered like a fifteen year old boy trying to land the most popular girl in his class, that is exactly what Cronin did with Rick and the Louisville program. Can you blame him? It depends on what your defintion of character truly is. I wouldn't have taken the job if I knew I was going to have to spill the beans on the ONE MAN who hired me and let me start from fooking clipping tape and working up the ladder. But he did.
As for being a the epitome of a "Bob Huggins" fan. I would be a "Fred Flintstone" fan. There are two things I want and in order. #1: Play harder than you have ever played and when you play as hard as you think you can - play even harder- and if you don't - you sit. And number two usually comes after number one and THAT IS WIN. If number one is done, more often than not number two will follow, just look at Coach Huggins numbers. It just happened to be that I fell in love with that style of blame, heck I am from Cincinnati, shoot me.
Apologize for the long post.