Quote:Bush administration already funded single payer health care for Iraq....
SOURCE: SeattleTimes
Wednesday, March 03, 2004

Universal care is right for Iraq, Thompson says

WASHINGTON — Fresh from a two-day weekend visit to Iraq, the Bush administration's top health-care official defended the $950 million that will be spent to help Iraq establish universal health care.

Congressional Democrats have criticized the administration for helping Iraq to establish universal health care without doing the same for U.S. citizens.

Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said yesterday there are major differences between the two countries that defy simple comparisons.

"Even if you don't have health insurance," said Thompson, who toured medical facilities in the Iraqi cities of Baghdad and Tikrit on Saturday and Sunday, "you are still taken care of in America. That certainly could be defined as universal coverage. Every American's health care is far superior to what the health care is in Iraq."

Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, ranking Democrat on the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, responded yesterday, saying the U.S. system doesn't sufficiently meet the needs of 44 million uninsured Americans.

I'm all for turning this country into Iraq. Who isn't?

**** Thomson. Healthcare is NOT a right. A right is something that doesn't directly impact someone else. When you say you have a right to healthcare, you're saying you have a right to someone's time, education, and experience in terms of a doctors, and MY time, money, and experience and the person who has to pay for it.

**** anyone who thinks that have a damn right to my earnings. You're a f'n attorney. Pay for your own f'n healthcare.

For Iraq that might have been a step forward. For us it would be a giant step backward.

Is Bush still in Office?

(08-13-2009 05:21 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Is Bush still in Office?

Obama seems to think Bush is still POTUS when Sh't is Hitting their Fan, but when things seem good, it is all Obama's Cure that is Working for the People.

I believe I used to hear Adolf Hitler say that exact same thing.

But then I am a World Destroying Dumb Ass ....

On a more serious note, take the Oil Reserves in Iraq and Divide it by the population, add in the sales of the Crude, offer Tax Incentives to the Iraqi People in the form of Tax Refunds and the Iraqi People could be self sufficient and rivaling any other nation around in 5 Years.

And I thought we were "Liberating Iraq" and not using her to run Social Government Entitlement Programs that have never worked Here or in Moscow or in Beijing so WTF are we doing this to them for ????

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Thing is Trip, if Bush did nothing for Health Care in Iraq, Orifice would be on here saying how Bush could have established universal health care, but didn't. Just a hater.

(08-13-2009 06:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Thing is Trip, if Bush did nothing for Health Care in Iraq, Orifice would be on here saying how Bush could have established universal health care, but didn't. Just a hater.

(08-13-2009 06:20 PM)Artifice Wrote:  I'll admit it, I got a chuckle out of that one.

(08-13-2009 06:20 PM)Artifice Wrote:  

(08-13-2009 06:16 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Thing is Trip, if Bush did nothing for Health Care in Iraq, Orifice would be on here saying how Bush could have established universal health care, but didn't. Just a hater.

And I am insulted by being labeled "The Dumb Ass" .... no wonder we are headed for Civil War like Goose Sh't on a greased mirror.

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By the way Arti, Nice Photo of you dude, you are looking much better than the last time I saw you >>>>>>



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(08-13-2009 06:31 PM)Tripster Wrote:  By the way Arti, Nice Photo of you dude, you are looking much better than the last time I saw you >>>>>>



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Thanks. I attribute it to a steady diet of nutrisystem, beer, meth, and crisco right out of the tub.

(08-13-2009 06:38 PM)Artifice Wrote:  

(08-13-2009 06:31 PM)Tripster Wrote:  By the way Arti, Nice Photo of you dude, you are looking much better than the last time I saw you >>>>>>



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Thanks. I attribute it to a steady diet of nutrisystem, beer, meth, and crisco right out of the tub.

Sorry for the Emotes to those that get all wet in their Depends over the use of them.

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Single payer makes sense in a nation still recovering from a cvil war that lacks private insurance companies.

Lets see someone set up "Blue Cresent- Blue Shield" over there.

Can't get much better than this.

Apples and... onions

(08-13-2009 07:55 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Single payer makes sense in a nation still recovering from a cvil war that lacks private insurance companies.

Lets see someone set up "Blue Cresent- Blue Shield" over there.

This.

950 million dollars, do help a country that has no insurance industry and no healthcare infrastructure provide healthcare, is so far and away different than establishing a single payer system in the US.

Wow, and you have the nerve to label others' comments as Straw Man arguments? Still plumbing to find the depths of your own stupidity, I see.

(08-14-2009 07:21 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(08-13-2009 07:55 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Single payer makes sense in a nation still recovering from a cvil war that lacks private insurance companies.

Lets see someone set up "Blue Cresent- Blue Shield" over there.

This.

950 million dollars, do help a country that has no insurance industry and no healthcare infrastructure provide healthcare, is so far and away different than establishing a single payer system in the US.

Establishing a single player system is so far away from establishing a single payer system?

(08-14-2009 08:34 AM)Artifice Wrote:  

(08-14-2009 07:21 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(08-13-2009 07:55 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Single payer makes sense in a nation still recovering from a cvil war that lacks private insurance companies.

Lets see someone set up "Blue Cresent- Blue Shield" over there.

This.

950 million dollars, do help a country that has no insurance industry and no healthcare infrastructure provide healthcare, is so far and away different than establishing a single payer system in the US.

Establishing a single player system is so far away from establishing a single payer system?

All things being equal, no. But clearly all things aren't equal. America isn't Iraq.

Circumstances matter.

(08-13-2009 09:18 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Apples and... onions

Yeah, you are right. THe Iraqi's are more worthy than Americans. Paul, why do you hate America?