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Gross Revenue by Conference
2008 Season

NCAA Sources
Big Ten (31,215,888)
Big East (29,949,918)
ACC (29,422,225)
Southeastern (27,662,076)
Big XII (26,381,052)
Pac Ten (25,390,456)
CUSA (18,272,537)
Mid American (12,894,716)
Mountain West (12,448,714)
Atlantic 10 (11,416,499)
Western Athletic (10,434,348)
Colonial (9,884,737)
Missouri Valley (9,531,408)
Sun Belt (9,397,222)
Horizon (6,219,609)

BCS Revenue
Big Ten (22,824,992)
Southeastern (22,824,992)
Big XII (22,824,992)
Big East (18,324,992)
ACC (18,324,992)
Pac Ten (18,324,992)
Mountain West (9,530,000)
Mid American (3,010,000)
Western Athletic (2,490,000)
CUSA (1,960,000)
Sun Belt (1,440,000)
Missouri Valley (225,000)
Colonial (225,000)

Non-BCS Bowl Revenue
Southeastern (16,629,738)
Big Ten (12,588,072)
ACC (12,004,167)
Big XII (10,600,479)
Pac Ten (6,187,979)
Big East (4,875,000)
CUSA (4,549,000)
Mid American (3,975,000)
Western Athletic (2,750,000)
Mountain West (2,329,000)
Sun Belt (1,075,000)

Television Revenue
Big Ten (214,000,000)
Southeastern (205,000,000)
Big XII (79,500,000)
ACC (66,857,143)
Pac Ten (53,150,000)
Big East (40,000,000)
Mountain West (23,714,286)
CUSA (11,300,000)
Western Athletic (4,000,000)
Mid American (1,400,000)
Atlantic 10 (1,000,000)

Total Revenue
Big Ten (280,628,952)
Southeastern (272,116,806)
Big XII (139,306,532)
ACC (126,608,527)
Pac Ten (103,053,427)
Big East (93,149,910)
Mountain West (48,022,000)
CUSA (36,081,537)
Mid American (21,279,716)
Western Athletic (19,674,348)
Atlantic 10 (12,416,499)
Sun Belt (11,912,222)
Colonial (10,109,737)
Missouri Valley (9,756,408)
Horizon (6,219,609)
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RE: Gross Revenue by Conference
A note on the difference between CUSA and MAC revenue:

CUSA (36,081,537)
Mid American (21,279,716)

1. CUSA receives 9 million from the NCAA for basketball compared to the MAC's 1 million. There is a lot of money left over from Marquette and Louisville's Final Four runs. In 3 years that money will drop from 9 million to 5 million. Most of the remaining money can be attributed to Memphis.

This is very telling of where CUSA basketball would be without Memphis:

YEAR OF LAST APPEARANCE
1. Memphis (2008)
2. UAB (2006)
3. UCF (2005)
3. UTEP (2005)
5. Tulsa (2003)
6. Tulane (1995)
7. East Carolina (1993)
7. SMU (1993)
9. Houston (1992)
10. Southern Mississippi (1991)
11. Marshall (1987)
12. Rice (1970)

Only 1 other program besides Memphis has made the NCAA's since realignment. This conference would probably be 1 and done in most years like the MAC.


2) Value of Liberty Bowl.

If Memphis leaves, they take the 2 million dollar bowl payout with them probably to be replaced by nothing.

3) TV Contract.

Memphis basketball is worth 1 million dollars on ESPN, another 2 million on CSTV. That all goes if Memphis leaves.

4) Travel Costs.

For Marshall, the estimated increase in travel costs over playing in the MAC was 750,000.

If you multiply that by 12, CUSA has to bring in 9 million a year more than the MAC to cover travel expenses.

5) Total Cavets

BB Final Four money runs out (-4 million)
Memphis leaves CUSA BB (-4 million)
Memphis leaves CUSA TV (-3 million)
Memphis takes Liberty Bowl with them (-2 million)

CUSA without Memphis revenue:
(36 mill - 13 mill) = 23 million

Factor in high travel cost for a MAC school there:
(36 mill - 9 mill) = 27 million

High CUSA costs without Memphis in CUSA:
(36 mill - 13 mill - 9 mill) = 14 million
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RE: Gross Revenue by Conference
The travel costs in CUSA would be about the same for most Sun Belt schools so those programs would see value making the move.

For MAC programs even with Memphis the move is pretty much a wash. The MAC had 5 in bowls last year and 1 in the NCAA just like CUSA. Outside of the Liberty, quite frankly CUSA bowls aren't all that great. The MAC can do better with at-larges in Hawaii, DC, Independence ect then playing in Fort Worth.

The old CUSA was a pretty damn good basketball league and in one year sent 6 schools to the NCAAs. Given the history of the programs in the current league I don't see it returning to that level.
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anyone know why the Missouri Valley and Colonial receive $225K from the BCS..?
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So if thats what they made is anyone know how muuch each one spent?
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(02-28-2009 08:03 PM)DSniu41 Wrote:  anyone know why the Missouri Valley and Colonial receive $225K from the BCS..?

All FCS conferences under the current agreement receive money from the BCS. I don't understand why this is the case.
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Numbers like these reinforce my belief that MAC schools have more to gain by improving our own conference than harboring dreams of leaving it.

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Excellent info Airport KC, it really shows the difference between the haves and have nots.

Thanks for posting.
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RE: Gross Revenue by Conference
(02-28-2009 06:38 PM)Airport KC Wrote:  2008 Season

NCAA Sources
Big Ten (31,215,888)
Big East (29,949,918)
ACC (29,422,225)
Southeastern (27,662,076)
Big XII (26,381,052)
Pac Ten (25,390,456)
CUSA (18,272,537)
Mid American (12,894,716)
Mountain West (12,448,714)
Atlantic 10 (11,416,499)
Western Athletic (10,434,348)
Colonial (9,884,737)
Missouri Valley (9,531,408)
Sun Belt (9,397,222)
Horizon (6,219,609)

BCS Revenue
Big Ten (22,824,992)
Southeastern (22,824,992)
Big XII (22,824,992)
Big East (18,324,992)
ACC (18,324,992)
Pac Ten (18,324,992)
Mountain West (9,530,000)
Mid American (3,010,000)
Western Athletic (2,490,000)
CUSA (1,960,000)
Sun Belt (1,440,000)
Missouri Valley (225,000)
Colonial (225,000)

Non-BCS Bowl Revenue
Southeastern (16,629,738)
Big Ten (12,588,072)
ACC (12,004,167)
Big XII (10,600,479)
Pac Ten (6,187,979)
Big East (4,875,000)
CUSA (4,549,000)
Mid American (3,975,000)
Western Athletic (2,750,000)
Mountain West (2,329,000)
Sun Belt (1,075,000)

Television Revenue
Big Ten (214,000,000)
Southeastern (205,000,000)
Big XII (79,500,000)
ACC (66,857,143)
Big East (40,000,000)
Pac Ten (33,750;000)
Mountain West (23,714,286)
CUSA (11,300,000)
Western Athletic (4,000,000)
Mid American (1,400,000)
Atlantic 10 (1,000,000)

Total Revenue
Big Ten (280,628,952)
Southeastern (272,116,806)
Big XII (139,306,532)
ACC (126,608,527)
Big East (93,149,910)
Pac Ten (83,653,427)
Mountain West (48,022,000)
CUSA (36,081,537)
Mid American (21,279,716)
Western Athletic (19,674,348)
Atlantic 10 (12,416,499)
Sun Belt (11,912,222)
Colonial (10,109,737)
Missouri Valley (9,756,408)
Horizon (6,219,609)


Where did you get these numbers? Do you have a link?

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RE: Gross Revenue by Conference
(03-01-2009 11:36 PM)E-zone Wrote:  
(02-28-2009 06:38 PM)Airport KC Wrote:  2008 Season

NCAA Sources
Big Ten (31,215,888)
Big East (29,949,918)
ACC (29,422,225)
Southeastern (27,662,076)
Big XII (26,381,052)
Pac Ten (25,390,456)
CUSA (18,272,537)
Mid American (12,894,716)
Mountain West (12,448,714)
Atlantic 10 (11,416,499)
Western Athletic (10,434,348)
Colonial (9,884,737)
Missouri Valley (9,531,408)
Sun Belt (9,397,222)
Horizon (6,219,609)

BCS Revenue
Big Ten (22,824,992)
Southeastern (22,824,992)
Big XII (22,824,992)
Big East (18,324,992)
ACC (18,324,992)
Pac Ten (18,324,992)
Mountain West (9,530,000)
Mid American (3,010,000)
Western Athletic (2,490,000)
CUSA (1,960,000)
Sun Belt (1,440,000)
Missouri Valley (225,000)
Colonial (225,000)

Non-BCS Bowl Revenue
Southeastern (16,629,738)
Big Ten (12,588,072)
ACC (12,004,167)
Big XII (10,600,479)
Pac Ten (6,187,979)
Big East (4,875,000)
CUSA (4,549,000)
Mid American (3,975,000)
Western Athletic (2,750,000)
Mountain West (2,329,000)
Sun Belt (1,075,000)

Television Revenue
Big Ten (214,000,000)
Southeastern (205,000,000)
Big XII (79,500,000)
ACC (66,857,143)
Big East (40,000,000)
Pac Ten (33,750;000)
Mountain West (23,714,286)
CUSA (11,300,000)
Western Athletic (4,000,000)
Mid American (1,400,000)
Atlantic 10 (1,000,000)

Total Revenue
Big Ten (280,628,952)
Southeastern (272,116,806)
Big XII (139,306,532)
ACC (126,608,527)
Big East (93,149,910)
Pac Ten (83,653,427)
Mountain West (48,022,000)
CUSA (36,081,537)
Mid American (21,279,716)
Western Athletic (19,674,348)
Atlantic 10 (12,416,499)
Sun Belt (11,912,222)
Colonial (10,109,737)
Missouri Valley (9,756,408)
Horizon (6,219,609)


Where did you get these numbers? Do you have a link?

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NCAA sources and Bowl revenue are listed here:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=4

The bowls are not update for this year but I've calculated based on this year's results.

The TV deal information is something I've collected gradually as each new deal is announced. There are a few deals that I know about not commonly reported such as the Mountain West's 10 year, 120 million deal with Comcast for distribution.

Per football school:

MWC: 5,335,778 (6,321,999)
CUSA: 3,006,795

The figure in parenthesis is what the MWC would be pulling in per school if it had an automatic BCS bid.
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RE: Gross Revenue by Conference
(03-01-2009 03:06 PM)Photodan Wrote:  Numbers like these reinforce my belief that MAC schools have more to gain by improving our own conference than harboring dreams of leaving it.

-Dan

Total Revenue
Mid American (21,279,716)

1) Increased Bowl Payouts

The ACC is rumored as the replacement for CUSA in the GMAC. To get a pick of #6 or better in that game from the ACC which now plays in the Champ's Sports Bowl the GMAC could increase the payout up to 2.5 million dollars. If the MAC can get the International and MCB to increase to 1 million or more plus that will help too.

Increase (2 million)

2) Increased BCS payouts

The MWC has announced that it will not sign the BCS revenue sharing agreement. This means all of the money previously split 5 ways will now be split 4. The new BCS TV contract also increases payouts by 50% so instead of 3 mill the MAC would be netting 6.42 mill.

Let's throw in optimistically 1 BCS bowl for the MAC every 4 years which is worth 9 million dollars. That would be worth an additional 2.25 million a year to the conference.

Increase (5.66 million)

3) Increased NCAA revenue

The MAC is next to rock bottom in money received by the NCAA. If the MAC could sustain a level of regular sweet 16 success that would increase revenue from 1 million to about 4 million from the NCAA tourney.

Increase (3.0 million)

4) Increased TV revenue

I said above that the MAC will pull in more money by making BCS games and winning games in the NCAAs. If say CMU was a regular top 20 team in football and BCS contender for the MAC and Kent State elevated to a top 20 hoops program, there would be reason to think future TV contracts would include more cash. I have estimated the value of Boise State football and Memphis basketball to be about 3 million dollars a piece and if the MAC had something comparable in both major sports 6 million would be possible.

Increase (6.0 million)

Total Increase:
+(2 million)
+(5.66 million)
+(3.0 million)
+(6.0 million)
=16.66 million

Current plus Increase: 37,939,716

This would be more money than CUSA without the travel costs associated in a best case scenario.

Its not great money, but its better than MVC, CAA, Horizon, and you have to keep in mind those conferences are AT their best revenue scenarios with over performances the last few years in the NCAAs.
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RE: Gross Revenue by Conference
(03-02-2009 09:52 AM)Airport KC Wrote:  
(03-01-2009 11:36 PM)E-zone Wrote:  
(02-28-2009 06:38 PM)Airport KC Wrote:  2008 Season

NCAA Sources
Big Ten (31,215,888)
Big East (29,949,918)
ACC (29,422,225)
Southeastern (27,662,076)
Big XII (26,381,052)
Pac Ten (25,390,456)
CUSA (18,272,537)
Mid American (12,894,716)
Mountain West (12,448,714)
Atlantic 10 (11,416,499)
Western Athletic (10,434,348)
Colonial (9,884,737)
Missouri Valley (9,531,408)
Sun Belt (9,397,222)
Horizon (6,219,609)

BCS Revenue
Big Ten (22,824,992)
Southeastern (22,824,992)
Big XII (22,824,992)
Big East (18,324,992)
ACC (18,324,992)
Pac Ten (18,324,992)
Mountain West (9,530,000)
Mid American (3,010,000)
Western Athletic (2,490,000)
CUSA (1,960,000)
Sun Belt (1,440,000)
Missouri Valley (225,000)
Colonial (225,000)

Non-BCS Bowl Revenue
Southeastern (16,629,738)
Big Ten (12,588,072)
ACC (12,004,167)
Big XII (10,600,479)
Pac Ten (6,187,979)
Big East (4,875,000)
CUSA (4,549,000)
Mid American (3,975,000)
Western Athletic (2,750,000)
Mountain West (2,329,000)
Sun Belt (1,075,000)

Television Revenue
Big Ten (214,000,000)
Southeastern (205,000,000)
Big XII (79,500,000)
ACC (66,857,143)
Big East (40,000,000)
Pac Ten (33,750;000)
Mountain West (23,714,286)
CUSA (11,300,000)
Western Athletic (4,000,000)
Mid American (1,400,000)
Atlantic 10 (1,000,000)

Total Revenue
Big Ten (280,628,952)
Southeastern (272,116,806)
Big XII (139,306,532)
ACC (126,608,527)
Big East (93,149,910)
Pac Ten (83,653,427)
Mountain West (48,022,000)
CUSA (36,081,537)
Mid American (21,279,716)
Western Athletic (19,674,348)
Atlantic 10 (12,416,499)
Sun Belt (11,912,222)
Colonial (10,109,737)
Missouri Valley (9,756,408)
Horizon (6,219,609)


Where did you get these numbers? Do you have a link?

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NCAA sources and Bowl revenue are listed here:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=4

The bowls are not update for this year but I've calculated based on this year's results.

The TV deal information is something I've collected gradually as each new deal is announced. There are a few deals that I know about not commonly reported such as the Mountain West's 10 year, 120 million deal with Comcast for distribution.

Per football school:

MWC: 5,335,778 (6,321,999)
CUSA: 3,006,795

The figure in parenthesis is what the MWC would be pulling in per school if it had an automatic BCS bid.

Your MWC numbers are a little off, like the TV contract... The MWC sign a new contract $120 million for 10 years to replace the old one of $82 million for 7 years. I wish the MWC got both, but they only get the one.
Your Bowl numbers seem to be off a little bit too...

BC$ Monies and saying the BC$ pay out was $115 in 2008;
Yearly Guarantied Money
115,000,000 x 9% = $10,350,000

Half is split evenly among the 5 conferences
$10,350,000 / 2 = $5,175,000
$5,175,000 / 5 conferences = $1,035,000 per conference

The other half is split by credits earned according to the BC$ Power Rating
$5,175,000 / 15 = $345,000 per credit
1st place gets 5 credits- $1,725,000
2nd place gets 4 credits- $1,380,000
3rd place gets 3 credits- $1,035,000
4th place gets 2 credits- $690,000
5th place gets 1 credits- $345,000


BC$ Bowl Monies, is another 9%, with Utah making a BC$ Bowl in 2008;
The conference making a BC$ Bowl earns $6 million off the top;
$10,350,000 - $4,350,000 = $6 million for the MWC

The rest is divided according to the BC$ Power Rating
$4,350,000 / 15 = $290,000 per credit
1st place gets 5 credits- $1,450,000
2nd place gets 4 credits- $1,160,000
3rd place gets 3 credits- $870,000
4th place gets 2 credits- $580,000
5th place gets 1 credits- $290,000

So the MWC would get;
Guarantied Money, even split- $1,035,000
Guarantied Money, BC$ Power Rating- $1,725,000
BC$ Bowl Money for Utah making the Bowl- $6,000,000
BC$ Bowl Money, BC$ Power Rating- $1,450,000
Total BC$ Monies for the MWC-- $10,210,000


Non-BC$ MWC Bowls-
Las Vegas Bowl- $950,000 (all reports I have heard it's over $1 million now)
Poinsettia Bowl- $750,000
Armed Forces Bowl- $600,000
New Mexico Bowl- $750,000
Total for Bowls- $3,050,000


Also FWIW, I have heard that the Pac 10 TV deal is in the $55 million to $65 million range, which makes since for it to be very close to the Big 12 since they have like packages with the same networks (ABC, ESPN, FSN, and Versus). Plus I highly doubt the Pac 10 with storied programs like USC, UCLA, Stanford, and ect... would have a smaller TV contract than the Big East. Who I have heard makes $20 million a year for basketball and $15 million a year for football for a total of $35 million a year (not $40 million).


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(03-02-2009 11:51 PM)E-zone Wrote:  
(03-02-2009 09:52 AM)Airport KC Wrote:  
(03-01-2009 11:36 PM)E-zone Wrote:  
(02-28-2009 06:38 PM)Airport KC Wrote:  2008 Season

NCAA Sources
Big Ten (31,215,888)
Big East (29,949,918)
ACC (29,422,225)
Southeastern (27,662,076)
Big XII (26,381,052)
Pac Ten (25,390,456)
CUSA (18,272,537)
Mid American (12,894,716)
Mountain West (12,448,714)
Atlantic 10 (11,416,499)
Western Athletic (10,434,348)
Colonial (9,884,737)
Missouri Valley (9,531,408)
Sun Belt (9,397,222)
Horizon (6,219,609)

BCS Revenue
Big Ten (22,824,992)
Southeastern (22,824,992)
Big XII (22,824,992)
Big East (18,324,992)
ACC (18,324,992)
Pac Ten (18,324,992)
Mountain West (9,530,000)
Mid American (3,010,000)
Western Athletic (2,490,000)
CUSA (1,960,000)
Sun Belt (1,440,000)
Missouri Valley (225,000)
Colonial (225,000)

Non-BCS Bowl Revenue
Southeastern (16,629,738)
Big Ten (12,588,072)
ACC (12,004,167)
Big XII (10,600,479)
Pac Ten (6,187,979)
Big East (4,875,000)
CUSA (4,549,000)
Mid American (3,975,000)
Western Athletic (2,750,000)
Mountain West (2,329,000)
Sun Belt (1,075,000)

Television Revenue
Big Ten (214,000,000)
Southeastern (205,000,000)
Big XII (79,500,000)
ACC (66,857,143)
Big East (40,000,000)
Pac Ten (33,750;000)
Mountain West (23,714,286)
CUSA (11,300,000)
Western Athletic (4,000,000)
Mid American (1,400,000)
Atlantic 10 (1,000,000)

Total Revenue
Big Ten (280,628,952)
Southeastern (272,116,806)
Big XII (139,306,532)
ACC (126,608,527)
Big East (93,149,910)
Pac Ten (83,653,427)
Mountain West (48,022,000)
CUSA (36,081,537)
Mid American (21,279,716)
Western Athletic (19,674,348)
Atlantic 10 (12,416,499)
Sun Belt (11,912,222)
Colonial (10,109,737)
Missouri Valley (9,756,408)
Horizon (6,219,609)


Where did you get these numbers? Do you have a link?

05-stirthepot

NCAA sources and Bowl revenue are listed here:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=4

The bowls are not update for this year but I've calculated based on this year's results.

The TV deal information is something I've collected gradually as each new deal is announced. There are a few deals that I know about not commonly reported such as the Mountain West's 10 year, 120 million deal with Comcast for distribution.

Per football school:

MWC: 5,335,778 (6,321,999)
CUSA: 3,006,795

The figure in parenthesis is what the MWC would be pulling in per school if it had an automatic BCS bid.

Your MWC numbers are a little off, like the TV contract... The MWC sign a new contract $120 million for 10 years to replace the old one of $82 million for 7 years. I wish the MWC got both, but they only get the one.
Your Bowl numbers seem to be off a little bit too...

BC$ Monies and saying the BC$ pay out was $115 in 2008;
Yearly Guarantied Money
115,000,000 x 9% = $10,350,000

Half is split evenly among the 5 conferences
$10,350,000 / 2 = $5,175,000
$5,175,000 / 5 conferences = $1,035,000 per conference

The other half is split by credits earned according to the BC$ Power Rating
$5,175,000 / 15 = $345,000 per credit
1st place gets 5 credits- $1,725,000
2nd place gets 4 credits- $1,380,000
3rd place gets 3 credits- $1,035,000
4th place gets 2 credits- $690,000
5th place gets 1 credits- $345,000


BC$ Bowl Monies, is another 9%, with Utah making a BC$ Bowl in 2008;
The conference making a BC$ Bowl earns $6 million off the top;
$10,350,000 - $4,350,000 = $6 million for the MWC

The rest is divided according to the BC$ Power Rating
$4,350,000 / 15 = $290,000 per credit
1st place gets 5 credits- $1,450,000
2nd place gets 4 credits- $1,160,000
3rd place gets 3 credits- $870,000
4th place gets 2 credits- $580,000
5th place gets 1 credits- $290,000

So the MWC would get;
Guarantied Money, even split- $1,035,000
Guarantied Money, BC$ Power Rating- $1,725,000
BC$ Bowl Money for Utah making the Bowl- $6,000,000
BC$ Bowl Money, BC$ Power Rating- $1,450,000
Total BC$ Monies for the MWC-- $10,210,000


Non-BC$ MWC Bowls-
Las Vegas Bowl- $950,000 (all reports I have heard it's over $1 million now)
Poinsettia Bowl- $750,000
Armed Forces Bowl- $600,000
New Mexico Bowl- $750,000
Total for Bowls- $3,050,000


Also FWIW, I have heard that the Pac 10 TV deal is in the $55 million to $65 million range, which makes since for it to be very close to the Big 12 since they have like packages with the same networks (ABC, ESPN, FSN, and Versus). Plus I highly doubt the Pac 10 with storied programs like USC, UCLA, Stanford, and ect... would have a smaller TV contract than the Big East. Who I have heard makes $20 million a year for basketball and $15 million a year for football for a total of $35 million a year (not $40 million).


02-13-banana

I made a typo when I orginally posted the TV numbers for the PAC-10, I listed it at 33 million when its actually 53 million.

For the Big East I have:

Football:
6-year, $14 million per season deal with ABC/ESPN through 2013-14

Basketball:
7-year, $24 million per season deal with ESPN through 2013-14;
7-year $14 million dollar deal with CBS

ESPN is paying Big East 38 million a year, CBS another 2 million.

For the MWC bowl numbers I used the latest 2007-08 numbers on the non-BCS games so they could be a little off.

With the BCS used the 9% off the base value of the 2006 contract, so that is also going up if the deal is staggered.

For the MWC I have the two TV deals running concurrently.
Football and basketball:
7-year, $82 million deal with CSTV through 2011-12;
10-year, $120 million deal with Comcast for MTN. through 2015-16

MWC has a deal for the MTN and one with CSTV, like the Big Ten with BTN and ESPN. If I understand correctly.
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RE: Gross Revenue by Conference
(03-03-2009 10:12 PM)Airport KC Wrote:  For the MWC I have the two TV deals running concurrently.
Football and basketball:
7-year, $82 million deal with CSTV through 2011-12;
10-year, $120 million deal with Comcast for MTN. through 2015-16

MWC has a deal for the MTN and one with CSTV, like the Big Ten with BTN and ESPN. If I understand correctly.

The mtn was part of the original CSTV and one of the main reasons the MWC signed the TV deal with CSTV. The MWC's TV deal with CSTV started the Fall of 2005 and the mtn was launched in the Fall of 2006. The Mountain West TV was announced part of the deal on September 13, 2004;
http://www.themwc.com/genrel/091304aaa.html

So as much as it would be great to have both, they only get the one (10-year, $120 million).

Here is were Comcast entered into the deal;
http://www.themwc.com/genrel/071906aab.html


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(03-04-2009 02:03 AM)E-zone Wrote:  
(03-03-2009 10:12 PM)Airport KC Wrote:  For the MWC I have the two TV deals running concurrently.
Football and basketball:
7-year, $82 million deal with CSTV through 2011-12;
10-year, $120 million deal with Comcast for MTN. through 2015-16

MWC has a deal for the MTN and one with CSTV, like the Big Ten with BTN and ESPN. If I understand correctly.

The mtn was part of the original CSTV and one of the main reasons the MWC signed the TV deal with CSTV. The MWC's TV deal with CSTV started the Fall of 2005 and the mtn was launched in the Fall of 2006. The Mountain West TV was announced part of the deal on September 13, 2004;
http://www.themwc.com/genrel/091304aaa.html

So as much as it would be great to have both, they only get the one (10-year, $120 million).

Here is were Comcast entered into the deal;
http://www.themwc.com/genrel/071906aab.html


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I see it now. I didn't realize Comcast was managing the Mtn joinly with CSTV, thus the new TV contract replaced the old one in place.
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