(10-12-2026 09:51 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  With out conference realignment scenarios, Ohio or Delaware for JMU's replacement in the SBC East. Checking in if Del. folks have heard any rumors.

I've only heard people say the donors are not going to fork up money to move Delaware to the SunBelt.

It's Rumor "season". I still have not even made it to the csnbbs Realignment Board.

No telling what kind of nutty stuff a few have proposed on that page.

Some throw logic and reason out the window just because they "heard" something.

(10-13-2026 09:48 AM)sigke Wrote:  

(10-12-2026 09:51 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  With out conference realignment scenarios, Ohio or Delaware for JMU's replacement in the SBC East. Checking in if Del. folks have heard any rumors.

I've only hear people say the donors are not going to fork up money to move Delaware to the SunBelt.

That sounds like the safest move.

Remember when Boise St announced they were joining the Big East football conference then watched that conference crumble before their start date.

It’s entirely possible for JMU to pay $28 million only to have Memphis, Tulane and S Florida jump to the ACC.

La Tech just paid/forfeited $8 million to jump conferences only to hear fans suggest (1) wouldn’t it be a good idea for the Sun Belt West to join with several CUSA schools FOR FREE or (2) they may be forced to drop to FCS.

(10-13-2026 11:10 AM)Baldspot Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 09:48 AM)sigke Wrote:  

(10-12-2026 09:51 PM)polkhigh Wrote:  With out conference realignment scenarios, Ohio or Delaware for JMU's replacement in the SBC East. Checking in if Del. folks have heard any rumors.

I've only hear people say the donors are not going to fork up money to move Delaware to the SunBelt.

That sounds like the safest move.

Remember when Boise St announced they were joining the Big East football conference then watched that conference crumble before their start date.

It’s entirely possible for JMU to pay $28 million only to have Memphis, Tulane and S Florida jump to the ACC.

La Tech just paid/forfeited $8 million to jump conferences only to hear fans suggest (1) wouldn’t it be a good idea for the Sun Belt West to join with several CUSA schools FOR FREE or (2) they may be forced to drop to FCS.

I thought about that too lol. However it shows that realignment is always a gamble and we don't know what could happen. JMU might be paying $28M to enter the American who could get raided by a heavily raided ACC and end up paying to have moved earlier than other SBC East schools if they then are invited as replacements and JMU is left behind.

(10-13-2026 11:10 AM)Baldspot Wrote:  That sounds like the safest move.

Remember when Boise St announced they were joining the Big East football conference then watched that conference crumble before their start date.

It’s entirely possible for JMU to pay $28 million only to have Memphis, Tulane and S Florida jump to the ACC.

La Tech just paid/forfeited $8 million to jump conferences only to hear fans suggest (1) wouldn’t it be a good idea for the Sun Belt West to join with several CUSA schools FOR FREE or (2) they may be forced to drop to FCS.

Well... regarding Boise St; that was a totally different situation altogether. Villanova was supposed to be promoted to FBS, did the research, secured a deal to use the MLS soccer stadium, etc; only for the football schools to say, "nevermind." This lead to Villanova leading the way for the Catholic 7 to split off, taking the name and MSG deal with them.

For JMU - I'm pretty sure they know that at least Tulane, USF & Rice are going to the ACC, and maybe Navy & Army too. They also know Memphis might leave for either the ACC or XII as well. The fans might think otherwise, but I'm pretty sure the University is under no illusions that they WILL get an invite to the ACC. However, I'm also sure they know that their own shot at the ACC is being in the American.

Regarding LaTech: I don't even want to discuss them! LOL

(10-13-2026 11:34 AM)sigke Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 11:10 AM)Baldspot Wrote:  That sounds like the safest move.

Remember when Boise St announced they were joining the Big East football conference then watched that conference crumble before their start date.

It’s entirely possible for JMU to pay $28 million only to have Memphis, Tulane and S Florida jump to the ACC.

La Tech just paid/forfeited $8 million to jump conferences only to hear fans suggest (1) wouldn’t it be a good idea for the Sun Belt West to join with several CUSA schools FOR FREE or (2) they may be forced to drop to FCS.

Well... regarding Boise St; that was a totally different situation altogether. Villanova was supposed to be promoted to FBS, did the research, secured a deal to use the MLS soccer stadium, etc; only for the football schools to say, "nevermind." This lead to Villanova leading the way for the Catholic 7 to split off, taking the name and MSG deal with them.

For JMU - I'm pretty sure they know that at least Tulane, USF & Rice are going to the ACC, and maybe Navy & Army too. They also know Memphis might leave for either the ACC or XII as well. The fans might think otherwise, but I'm pretty sure the University is under no illusions that they WILL get an invite to the ACC. However, I'm also sure they know that their own shot at the ACC is being in the American.

Regarding LaTech: I don't even want to discuss them! LOL

They are ambitious for sure, and if the ACC is their long term goal then they have to take those steps up the ladder as they come.

I suppose that even if the American ends up severely depleted, what is left can still likely take the "cream of the crop" from CUSA/SBC/MAC. JMU will almost certainly end up in a "better" overall situation than what they are leaving, but whether it will have been worth 28 million will be debatable.

(10-13-2026 12:25 PM)freshtop Wrote:  but whether it will have been worth 28 million will be debatable.

If I'm reading the $23 million to the American correctly; JMU will be paid normal distributions annually. So in reality, JMU really getting in for only $2 million over 3 years (assuming they are paid $7 million per year).

So in a way, the JMU is giving the American their money for 3 years so the American can make interest. Then, within 3 years, they will have their money back and making money.

(10-13-2026 10:11 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  It's Rumor "season". I still have not even made it to the csnbbs Realignment Board.

No telling what kind of nutty stuff a few have proposed on that page.

Some throw logic and reason out the window just because they "heard" something.

It’s a lot of pulling “rumors” out of their butt.

(10-13-2026 12:54 PM)sigke Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 12:25 PM)freshtop Wrote:  but whether it will have been worth 28 million will be debatable.

If I'm reading the $23 million to the American correctly; JMU will be paid normal distributions annually. So in reality, JMU really getting in for only $2 million over 3 years (assuming they are paid $7 million per year).

So in a way, the JMU is giving the American their money for 3 years so the American can make interest. Then, within 3 years, they will have their money back and making money.

JMU forfeits any SBC Income they get for this season and will probably have to settle with the league to get out in July, so it will be a little more then that, but yeah.

(10-13-2026 12:54 PM)sigke Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 12:25 PM)freshtop Wrote:  but whether it will have been worth 28 million will be debatable.

If I'm reading the $23 million to the American correctly; JMU will be paid normal distributions annually. So in reality, JMU really getting in for only $2 million over 3 years (assuming they are paid $7 million per year).

So in a way, the JMU is giving the American their money for 3 years so the American can make interest. Then, within 3 years, they will have their money back and making money.

I wonder if conferences do invest extra money ?

(10-14-2026 08:54 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 12:54 PM)sigke Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 12:25 PM)freshtop Wrote:  but whether it will have been worth 28 million will be debatable.

If I'm reading the $23 million to the American correctly; JMU will be paid normal distributions annually. So in reality, JMU really getting in for only $2 million over 3 years (assuming they are paid $7 million per year).

So in a way, the JMU is giving the American their money for 3 years so the American can make interest. Then, within 3 years, they will have their money back and making money.

I wonder if conferences do invest extra money ?

Depends on the league. The SBC takes that money and splits it among remaining member schools.

(10-14-2026 11:53 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-14-2026 08:54 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 12:54 PM)sigke Wrote:  

(10-13-2026 12:25 PM)freshtop Wrote:  but whether it will have been worth 28 million will be debatable.

If I'm reading the $23 million to the American correctly; JMU will be paid normal distributions annually. So in reality, JMU really getting in for only $2 million over 3 years (assuming they are paid $7 million per year).

So in a way, the JMU is giving the American their money for 3 years so the American can make interest. Then, within 3 years, they will have their money back and making money.

I wonder if conferences do invest extra money ?

Depends on the league. The SBC takes that money and splits it among remaining member schools.

And many times I bet that money is already spent before it arrives......... I know it would be at MT

(10-12-2026 09:58 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Does the SBC end division play?

Wished FIU could go to the American and NMSU to the MW or PAC. Then CUSA would be more attractive to App and Ohio.

Absolutely no chance App joins this league

Quite possibly the dumbest conference move we have seen so far.

Lets start with JMU “success”. They have consistently one of the weakest schedule, if not the weakest this year in all of FBS. They might go undefeated and still be bypassed by a two lost MWC or AAC team. When JMU did play a decent team last year, they got embarrassed. It was pitiful and proved that JMU did not belong in a NY6 game. It was an embarrassment for all the G6 schools, it helped the narrative that we don’t belong with the P4.

JMU is one coach away from mediocrity, just look at App State.

Their AD was so dumb he confused conference revenue sharing with the SBC media deal, and their imbecile fans quoted the “ 2 million ESPN” contract for years until the actual numbers were reported.

24 million to join the AAC is quite possibly the dumbest move I have seen so far. Memphis, South Florida, Tulane, Navy and Army are no doubt leaving when the openings come from the ACC defections. Clemson, Florida State, Miami are gone from the ACC in 2030.

So what will 24 million get JMU? The privilege to play prestigious programs such as Charlotte, UAB, UTSA, North Texas State, and FAU. Wow what a deal! 24 million to play those prestigious programs! The AAC at that point will be on par with the Sunbelt, the conference JMU just payed 24 million to leave.

Plus JMU will received the same reduced media deal that CUSA schools that left for the AAC received, which is 2 million starting out. The same amount their imbecile AD said they would receive with the Sunbelt.

That 24 million could make some serious capital improvements or buy a lot NIL players instead JMU is using 24 million to be associated with Charlotte, FAU, North Texas. What an awesome deal

JMU schedule is not weaker than Boise St in the nPAC. American is probably the strongest G6 conference but not by much. Dont see a two loss MWC team moving on either. NDSU and New Mexico are their only decent to good teams.

(10-18-2026 05:57 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Quite possibly the dumbest conference move we have seen so far.

Lets start with JMU “success”. They have consistently one of the weakest schedule, if not the weakest this year in all of FBS. They might go undefeated and still be bypassed by a two lost MWC or AAC team. When JMU did play a decent team last year, they got embarrassed. It was pitiful and proved that JMU did not belong in a NY6 game. It was an embarrassment for all the G6 schools, it helped the narrative that we don’t belong with the P4.

JMU is one coach away from mediocrity, just look at App State.

Their AD was so dumb he confused conference revenue sharing with the SBC media deal, and their imbecile fans quoted the “ 2 million ESPN” contract for years until the actual numbers were reported.

24 million to join the AAC is quite possibly the dumbest move I have seen so far. Memphis, South Florida, Tulane, Navy and Army are no doubt leaving when the openings come from the ACC defections. Clemson, Florida State, Miami are gone from the ACC in 2030.

So what will 24 million get JMU? The privilege to play prestigious programs such as Charlotte, UAB, UTSA, North Texas State, and FAU. Wow what a deal! 24 million to play those prestigious programs! The AAC at that point will be on par with the Sunbelt, the conference JMU just payed 24 million to leave.

Plus JMU will received the same reduced media deal that CUSA schools that left for the AAC received, which is 2 million starting out. The same amount their imbecile AD said they would receive with the Sunbelt.

That 24 million could make some serious capital improvements or buy a lot NIL players instead JMU is using 24 million to be associated with Charlotte, FAU, North Texas. What an awesome deal

I got no love for the jmwhos, but for (as you put it) such a Stoopid move, you sure gotta lot to say about it.

It’s a long time to 2030, a lot can happen, or not happen, between now and then. You talk of ACC defections, but it remains to be seen if they lose anybody. Which also means no guarantee of those American teams going to the ACC.

If The Whos have money to burn to make a move, well let ‘em. Ain’t costing me or you nothin’

(10-18-2026 06:17 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  JMU schedule is not weaker than Boise St in the nPAC. American is probably the strongest G6 conference but not by much. Dont see a two loss MWC team moving on either. NDSU and New Mexico are their only decent to good teams.

? Boise State is 56 and JMU is 133 out 139 FBS schools. Yes a 1 loss Boise State is predicted to finish ahead of an undefeated JMU. Article just published on ESPN app

Yes PAC lite that’s what I meant.

(10-18-2026 06:32 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 05:57 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Quite possibly the dumbest conference move we have seen so far.

Lets start with JMU “success”. They have consistently one of the weakest schedule, if not the weakest this year in all of FBS. They might go undefeated and still be bypassed by a two lost MWC or AAC team. When JMU did play a decent team last year, they got embarrassed. It was pitiful and proved that JMU did not belong in a NY6 game. It was an embarrassment for all the G6 schools, it helped the narrative that we don’t belong with the P4.

JMU is one coach away from mediocrity, just look at App State.

Their AD was so dumb he confused conference revenue sharing with the SBC media deal, and their imbecile fans quoted the “ 2 million ESPN” contract for years until the actual numbers were reported.

24 million to join the AAC is quite possibly the dumbest move I have seen so far. Memphis, South Florida, Tulane, Navy and Army are no doubt leaving when the openings come from the ACC defections. Clemson, Florida State, Miami are gone from the ACC in 2030.

So what will 24 million get JMU? The privilege to play prestigious programs such as Charlotte, UAB, UTSA, North Texas State, and FAU. Wow what a deal! 24 million to play those prestigious programs! The AAC at that point will be on par with the Sunbelt, the conference JMU just payed 24 million to leave.

Plus JMU will received the same reduced media deal that CUSA schools that left for the AAC received, which is 2 million starting out. The same amount their imbecile AD said they would receive with the Sunbelt.

That 24 million could make some serious capital improvements or buy a lot NIL players instead JMU is using 24 million to be associated with Charlotte, FAU, North Texas. What an awesome deal

I got no love for the jmwhos, but for (as you put it) such a Stoopid move, you sure gotta lot to say about it.

It’s a long time to 2030, a lot can happen, or not happen, between now and then. You talk of ACC defections, but it remains to be seen if they lose anybody. Which also means no guarantee of those American teams going to the ACC.

If The Whos have money to burn to make a move, well let ‘em. Ain’t costing me or you nothin’

Ok but You sure do have a lot to say about someone’s opinion on a sports message board that is based on people posting their opinions about college sports.

Sound ridiculous?

Sure Texas State to PAC lite was good move right now. Who knows what the future holds

(10-18-2026 08:01 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 06:32 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2026 05:57 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Quite possibly the dumbest conference move we have seen so far.

Lets start with JMU “success”. They have consistently one of the weakest schedule, if not the weakest this year in all of FBS. They might go undefeated and still be bypassed by a two lost MWC or AAC team. When JMU did play a decent team last year, they got embarrassed. It was pitiful and proved that JMU did not belong in a NY6 game. It was an embarrassment for all the G6 schools, it helped the narrative that we don’t belong with the P4.

JMU is one coach away from mediocrity, just look at App State.

Their AD was so dumb he confused conference revenue sharing with the SBC media deal, and their imbecile fans quoted the “ 2 million ESPN” contract for years until the actual numbers were reported.

24 million to join the AAC is quite possibly the dumbest move I have seen so far. Memphis, South Florida, Tulane, Navy and Army are no doubt leaving when the openings come from the ACC defections. Clemson, Florida State, Miami are gone from the ACC in 2030.

So what will 24 million get JMU? The privilege to play prestigious programs such as Charlotte, UAB, UTSA, North Texas State, and FAU. Wow what a deal! 24 million to play those prestigious programs! The AAC at that point will be on par with the Sunbelt, the conference JMU just payed 24 million to leave.

Plus JMU will received the same reduced media deal that CUSA schools that left for the AAC received, which is 2 million starting out. The same amount their imbecile AD said they would receive with the Sunbelt.

That 24 million could make some serious capital improvements or buy a lot NIL players instead JMU is using 24 million to be associated with Charlotte, FAU, North Texas. What an awesome deal

I got no love for the jmwhos, but for (as you put it) such a Stoopid move, you sure gotta lot to say about it.

It’s a long time to 2030, a lot can happen, or not happen, between now and then. You talk of ACC defections, but it remains to be seen if they lose anybody. Which also means no guarantee of those American teams going to the ACC.

If The Whos have money to burn to make a move, well let ‘em. Ain’t costing me or you nothin’

Ok but You sure do have a lot to say about someone’s opinion on a sports message board that is based on people posting their opinions about college sports.

Sound ridiculous?

Sure Texas State to PAC lite was good move right now. Who knows what the future holds

EXACTLY

I'll have to disagree.

The move by JMU was very good.

Now the money? Sounds like too much IMO--But guess what? Zero of those dollars came from JMU. They are all corporate monies which will be tied to sponsorship of the American.

JMU will get between 7-12 Million in conference revenue vs about 2.4? M in the SBC.

Add to that a conference which is rated higher in FB and BB--And the addition of FIVE regional opponents...again All at no cost to the UNIVERSITY?

Down the road--If they lose some "names" they'll re-load with the Very Best of the SBC, MAC, or CUSA.

Is it perfect? NO.

Step-up from the SBC at no cost? Yes!