(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 06:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I see you left off the breakdown by state.

Quote:Table 1. Initial Noncitizen Voters State Initial Noncitizen Voters
California 4,300
Texas 2,500
Florida 1,800
New York 1,700
Arizona 1,100
Illinois 1,000
Pennsylvania 1,000
Washington 1,000
New Jersey 1,000
Michigan 600
North Carolina 550
Maryland 500
Massachusetts 500
Wisconsin 500
Minnesota 400
Georgia 400

(The rest of the states were omitted for brevity)

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Censu...ection.pdf

And you're also missing quite a bit of context. Mainly, that federal records of this nature often contain data lag. Further, in totality, of 160 million voters, this only represents .015% of that total...yes...there's still some more to analyze according to the USCB.

So, when you break this down by state...even if you make the outlandish claims that every one of those 24k were in fact noncitizens not allowed to vote and they actually all voted...and they all voted for Joe Biden...trump still loses the 2020 election.

So lets take trump out, the senate elections as well. How many local races were decided by a handfull of votes? Hell, there were state seats in NC decided by less than 550 votes (the total cast by illegals in the post for NC). Are you good with illegals deciding local and state elections?

Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

"Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 06:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I see you left off the breakdown by state.

Quote:Table 1. Initial Noncitizen Voters State Initial Noncitizen Voters
California 4,300
Texas 2,500
Florida 1,800
New York 1,700
Arizona 1,100
Illinois 1,000
Pennsylvania 1,000
Washington 1,000
New Jersey 1,000
Michigan 600
North Carolina 550
Maryland 500
Massachusetts 500
Wisconsin 500
Minnesota 400
Georgia 400

(The rest of the states were omitted for brevity)

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Censu...ection.pdf

And you're also missing quite a bit of context. Mainly, that federal records of this nature often contain data lag. Further, in totality, of 160 million voters, this only represents .015% of that total...yes...there's still some more to analyze according to the USCB.

So, when you break this down by state...even if you make the outlandish claims that every one of those 24k were in fact noncitizens not allowed to vote and they actually all voted...and they all voted for Joe Biden...trump still loses the 2020 election.

So lets take trump out, the senate elections as well. How many local races were decided by a handfull of votes? Hell, there were state seats in NC decided by less than 550 votes (the total cast by illegals in the post for NC). Are you good with illegals deciding local and state elections?

Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

All votes by illegals are fraudulent.

Also, it doesn't matter if they all go to one candidate or another. If the margin of victory is less than the illegal votes cast then the illegal votes decided the election unless they were split exactly 50/50

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  So lets take trump out, the senate elections as well. How many local races were decided by a handfull of votes? Hell, there were state seats in NC decided by less than 550 votes (the total cast by illegals in the post for NC). Are you good with illegals deciding local and state elections?

Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

"Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

(08-19-2026 10:46 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 06:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I see you left off the breakdown by state.

Quote:Table 1. Initial Noncitizen Voters State Initial Noncitizen Voters
California 4,300
Texas 2,500
Florida 1,800
New York 1,700
Arizona 1,100
Illinois 1,000
Pennsylvania 1,000
Washington 1,000
New Jersey 1,000
Michigan 600
North Carolina 550
Maryland 500
Massachusetts 500
Wisconsin 500
Minnesota 400
Georgia 400

(The rest of the states were omitted for brevity)

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Censu...ection.pdf

And you're also missing quite a bit of context. Mainly, that federal records of this nature often contain data lag. Further, in totality, of 160 million voters, this only represents .015% of that total...yes...there's still some more to analyze according to the USCB.

So, when you break this down by state...even if you make the outlandish claims that every one of those 24k were in fact noncitizens not allowed to vote and they actually all voted...and they all voted for Joe Biden...trump still loses the 2020 election.

So lets take trump out, the senate elections as well. How many local races were decided by a handfull of votes? Hell, there were state seats in NC decided by less than 550 votes (the total cast by illegals in the post for NC). Are you good with illegals deciding local and state elections?

Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

All votes by illegals are fraudulent.

Also, it doesn't matter if they all go to one candidate or another. If the margin of victory is less than the illegal votes cast then the illegal votes decided the election unless they were split exactly 50/50

My point was...as I mentioned above...that federal data cited can lag many months behind state information...so it's safe to assume it's a much lower number than 24k. I was merely referring to making an assumption that if all 24 were fraudulent, trump still loses, bigly.

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  So lets take trump out, the senate elections as well. How many local races were decided by a handfull of votes? Hell, there were state seats in NC decided by less than 550 votes (the total cast by illegals in the post for NC). Are you good with illegals deciding local and state elections?

Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

"Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  So lets take trump out, the senate elections as well. How many local races were decided by a handfull of votes? Hell, there were state seats in NC decided by less than 550 votes (the total cast by illegals in the post for NC). Are you good with illegals deciding local and state elections?

Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

"Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

(08-19-2026 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

"Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

What % went to biden?

(08-19-2026 01:36 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  "Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

What % went to biden?

I know this is not directed towards me, but 10% for the big guy.

(08-19-2026 01:36 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  "Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

What % went to biden?

lol, well, if all but one vote went to Biden then he's technically correct.

(08-19-2026 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 07:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Never been good with any illegals voting...just using some critical thinking.

1. The federal numbers from the USCB cannot be taken at face value as 100% accurate.
2. State records are far more accurate.
3. Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible.

"Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

"that went entirely to one candidate"

I never said that, nice Tanq move there.

(08-19-2026 02:14 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 09:55 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  "Assuming those illegal votes in one state ALL were fraudulent and that ALL (or a large majority) went to just one candidate...just isn't plausible"

Some of us remember a midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went one way.

Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

"that went entirely to one candidate"

I never said that, nice Tanq move there.

Yeah...because that's what I said...if you had said that, I would have put it in quotation marks. I bolded what you said because it means exactly that. You didn't say mostly or provide any other qualifier. You said the midnight dump went one way.

Regardless, the midnight dump claims are just stupid. As has been explained to you and others countless times, late counted votes are almost always from larger cities...which almost always lean heavily democratic. They also contain counts of many mail-in ballots...in the states that by law do not allow early counting of them before election day. Again, mail-in ballots almost always lean democratic. So since they cannot begin to be counted until election day...and take more time to process and count...their totals make it into the total count later in the process. So then those with little to no knowledge how these things work, it might seem nefarious, when it's actually expected and known beforehand...even by those who want to confuse you.

You clearly seem to have no grasp whatsoever how votes are actually counted. So instead of trying to learn, you just take a fact and jump to a conclusion. You're not thinking critically. Therefore, you're the perfect mark for those trying to manipulate you into parroting their lies.

I can only continue to explain this to you, I can't make you understand it.

Snopes explains it fairly well too.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-...ote-dumps/

(08-20-2026 06:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 02:14 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, many of you don't know what the **** they're talking about. What you're mumbling about just did not happen...kind of like that server we recovered in Germany at the cost of some American lives...remember?

Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

"that went entirely to one candidate"

I never said that, nice Tanq move there.

Yeah...because that's what I said...if you had said that, I would have put it in quotation marks. I bolded what you said because it means exactly that. You didn't say mostly or provide any other qualifier. You said the midnight dump went one way.

Regardless, the midnight dump claims are just stupid. As has been explained to you and others countless times, late counted votes are almost always from larger cities...which almost always lean heavily democratic. They also contain counts of many mail-in ballots...in the states that by law do not allow early counting of them before election day. Again, mail-in ballots almost always lean democratic. So since they cannot begin to be counted until election day...and take more time to process and count...their totals make it into the total count later in the process. So then those with little to no knowledge how these things work, it might seem nefarious, when it's actually expected and known beforehand...even by those who want to confuse you.

You clearly seem to have no grasp whatsoever how votes are actually counted. So instead of trying to learn, you just take a fact and jump to a conclusion. You're not thinking critically. Therefore, you're the perfect mark for those trying to manipulate you into parroting their lies.

I can only continue to explain this to you, I can't make you understand it.

Snopes explains it fairly well too.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-...ote-dumps/

Your knowledge of the English language is laughable and amusing. Yes the midnight dump went one way, it went biden's way. Nowhere did I say biden got all the votes, so you can stop trying to put words in that were not said.

"mail-in ballots almost always lean democratic"
Because that's where all the fraud is coming from.

So you worked at the Polls one time and that makes you an election expert on the subject.

I can only continue to explain this to you, I can't make you understand it.

Quote:The Department of Homeland Security told Nevada election officials that it identified 185 “potential” noncitizens on the state’s voter rolls, not the nearly 16,000 it claimed last month.

A month after the trump administration declared without evidence that thousands of noncitizens had illegally registered to vote in Nevada, officials with the Department of Homeland Security were unable to substantiate the claim.

The administration claimed to have identified 278,000 noncitizens registered to vote in four states, including an exact number of 15,903 in Nevada. But during a meeting last week with state election administrators, Homeland Security officials said they had identified just 185 potential noncitizens in the state so far, according to emails as well as recordings of the meeting obtained by The New York Times.

The federal officials said they were still considering 14,000 names for further review, according to one of the emails. In the virtual meeting, federal officials told Nevada that the nearly 16,000 they had originally identified represented “the ceiling” of potential noncitizens.

But the list the Homeland Security Department shared with Nevada is incomplete — it doesn’t even include names — and is nearly impossible to verify, according to files released by the secretary of state’s office. Nevada officials have requested more information, but the department has not yet offered it.

Homeland Security Made a Big Claim About Noncitizen Voting. Now It Can’t Prove It.

(08-20-2026 01:35 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-20-2026 06:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 02:14 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 01:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-19-2026 11:28 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Boy, you are so full of sh-t but that's the way you roll.

No, clown show. There is ZERO evidence of any midnight dump of votes in 2020 that went entirely to one candidate...presumably Biden.

Of course you can always cite credible proof and prove me wrong, right? Should be easy, huh?

Balls in your court...

"that went entirely to one candidate"

I never said that, nice Tanq move there.

Yeah...because that's what I said...if you had said that, I would have put it in quotation marks. I bolded what you said because it means exactly that. You didn't say mostly or provide any other qualifier. You said the midnight dump went one way.

Regardless, the midnight dump claims are just stupid. As has been explained to you and others countless times, late counted votes are almost always from larger cities...which almost always lean heavily democratic. They also contain counts of many mail-in ballots...in the states that by law do not allow early counting of them before election day. Again, mail-in ballots almost always lean democratic. So since they cannot begin to be counted until election day...and take more time to process and count...their totals make it into the total count later in the process. So then those with little to no knowledge how these things work, it might seem nefarious, when it's actually expected and known beforehand...even by those who want to confuse you.

You clearly seem to have no grasp whatsoever how votes are actually counted. So instead of trying to learn, you just take a fact and jump to a conclusion. You're not thinking critically. Therefore, you're the perfect mark for those trying to manipulate you into parroting their lies.

I can only continue to explain this to you, I can't make you understand it.

Snopes explains it fairly well too.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-...ote-dumps/

Your knowledge of the English language is laughable and amusing. Yes the midnight dump went one way, it went biden's way. Nowhere did I say biden got all the votes, so you can stop trying to put words in that were not said.

"mail-in ballots almost always lean democratic"
Because that's where all the fraud is coming from.

So you worked at the Polls one time and that makes you an election expert on the subject.

I can only continue to explain this to you, I can't make you understand it.

Being an expert at everything means you're an expert at nothing.

(08-21-2026 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:The Department of Homeland Security told Nevada election officials that it identified 185 “potential” noncitizens on the state’s voter rolls, not the nearly 16,000 it claimed last month.

A month after the trump administration declared without evidence that thousands of noncitizens had illegally registered to vote in Nevada, officials with the Department of Homeland Security were unable to substantiate the claim.

The administration claimed to have identified 278,000 noncitizens registered to vote in four states, including an exact number of 15,903 in Nevada. But during a meeting last week with state election administrators, Homeland Security officials said they had identified just 185 potential noncitizens in the state so far, according to emails as well as recordings of the meeting obtained by The New York Times.

The federal officials said they were still considering 14,000 names for further review, according to one of the emails. In the virtual meeting, federal officials told Nevada that the nearly 16,000 they had originally identified represented “the ceiling” of potential noncitizens.

But the list the Homeland Security Department shared with Nevada is incomplete — it doesn’t even include names — and is nearly impossible to verify, according to files released by the secretary of state’s office. Nevada officials have requested more information, but the department has not yet offered it.

Homeland Security Made a Big Claim About Noncitizen Voting. Now It Can’t Prove It.

BREAKING: Clerk Calls On DOJ To Help Get Non-Citizens Off His Voter Rolls After Sec of State Whistleblower Claims MI SOS Benson is Automatically Registering Them To Vote

This evening, Hastings Charter Township Clerk David Olson released a video of himself pleading with the feds to get involved in Michigan’s elections, specifically to help him identify and remove non-citizens from his voter rolls. Mr. Olson is asking for help from the feds after a whistleblower from Jocelyn Benson’s Secretary of State’s office came forward and told Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf that non-citizens are being placed on the voter rolls at the Secretary of State level. Hastings Charter Twp. Clerk David Olson claims there is absolutely no way for local clerks to detect non-citizens placed on their voter rolls by the Secretary of State’s office. Hastings Charter Township is in Barry County, Michigan.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/08...p-get-non/

(08-21-2026 11:21 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-21-2026 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:The Department of Homeland Security told Nevada election officials that it identified 185 “potential” noncitizens on the state’s voter rolls, not the nearly 16,000 it claimed last month.

A month after the trump administration declared without evidence that thousands of noncitizens had illegally registered to vote in Nevada, officials with the Department of Homeland Security were unable to substantiate the claim.

The administration claimed to have identified 278,000 noncitizens registered to vote in four states, including an exact number of 15,903 in Nevada. But during a meeting last week with state election administrators, Homeland Security officials said they had identified just 185 potential noncitizens in the state so far, according to emails as well as recordings of the meeting obtained by The New York Times.

The federal officials said they were still considering 14,000 names for further review, according to one of the emails. In the virtual meeting, federal officials told Nevada that the nearly 16,000 they had originally identified represented “the ceiling” of potential noncitizens.

But the list the Homeland Security Department shared with Nevada is incomplete — it doesn’t even include names — and is nearly impossible to verify, according to files released by the secretary of state’s office. Nevada officials have requested more information, but the department has not yet offered it.

Homeland Security Made a Big Claim About Noncitizen Voting. Now It Can’t Prove It.

BREAKING: Clerk Calls On DOJ To Help Get Non-Citizens Off His Voter Rolls After Sec of State Whistleblower Claims MI SOS Benson is Automatically Registering Them To Vote

This evening, Hastings Charter Township Clerk David Olson released a video of himself pleading with the feds to get involved in Michigan’s elections, specifically to help him identify and remove non-citizens from his voter rolls. Mr. Olson is asking for help from the feds after a whistleblower from Jocelyn Benson’s Secretary of State’s office came forward and told Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf that non-citizens are being placed on the voter rolls at the Secretary of State level. Hastings Charter Twp. Clerk David Olson claims there is absolutely no way for local clerks to detect non-citizens placed on their voter rolls by the Secretary of State’s office. Hastings Charter Township is in Barry County, Michigan.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/08...p-get-non/

GP is a propaganda rag, and Dar Leaf is a right-wing nutjob. None of this should be believed in the slightest. It's basically akin to your story about servers and deaths in Germany.

(08-24-2026 10:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-21-2026 11:21 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(08-21-2026 10:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:The Department of Homeland Security told Nevada election officials that it identified 185 “potential” noncitizens on the state’s voter rolls, not the nearly 16,000 it claimed last month.

A month after the trump administration declared without evidence that thousands of noncitizens had illegally registered to vote in Nevada, officials with the Department of Homeland Security were unable to substantiate the claim.

The administration claimed to have identified 278,000 noncitizens registered to vote in four states, including an exact number of 15,903 in Nevada. But during a meeting last week with state election administrators, Homeland Security officials said they had identified just 185 potential noncitizens in the state so far, according to emails as well as recordings of the meeting obtained by The New York Times.

The federal officials said they were still considering 14,000 names for further review, according to one of the emails. In the virtual meeting, federal officials told Nevada that the nearly 16,000 they had originally identified represented “the ceiling” of potential noncitizens.

But the list the Homeland Security Department shared with Nevada is incomplete — it doesn’t even include names — and is nearly impossible to verify, according to files released by the secretary of state’s office. Nevada officials have requested more information, but the department has not yet offered it.

Homeland Security Made a Big Claim About Noncitizen Voting. Now It Can’t Prove It.

BREAKING: Clerk Calls On DOJ To Help Get Non-Citizens Off His Voter Rolls After Sec of State Whistleblower Claims MI SOS Benson is Automatically Registering Them To Vote

This evening, Hastings Charter Township Clerk David Olson released a video of himself pleading with the feds to get involved in Michigan’s elections, specifically to help him identify and remove non-citizens from his voter rolls. Mr. Olson is asking for help from the feds after a whistleblower from Jocelyn Benson’s Secretary of State’s office came forward and told Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf that non-citizens are being placed on the voter rolls at the Secretary of State level. Hastings Charter Twp. Clerk David Olson claims there is absolutely no way for local clerks to detect non-citizens placed on their voter rolls by the Secretary of State’s office. Hastings Charter Township is in Barry County, Michigan.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/08...p-get-non/

GP is a propaganda rag, and Dar Leaf is a right-wing nutjob. None of this should be believed in the slightest. It's basically akin to your story about servers and deaths in Germany.

What are you mumbling about, you sound triggered.

Mumbling? No, I'm speaking very clearly. I'm talking about Hastings, Michigan and Barry County.

Speaking of which, have you ever been there? I have multiple times and will be again this Saturday.

Hastings is small city in rural Michigan with a population of around 7,500 people. Almost 99% of them are US citizens as of 2024, where none of the households reported speaking a non-English language at home as their primary shared language.
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/hastings-mi

Barry County has a population of around 63k. Just over 98% of them are US citizens as of 2024, and again, reports no households speaking a non-English language as their primary shared language.
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/barry-county-mi

In the 2024 election, trump got over 66% of the vote.
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/elec...rry-county

But please go on about how they're being forced to add non-citizens to their voting rolls by that meanie SOS, Jocelyn Benson, and that they apparently have no way of finding them and have to let them all vote...seemingly...for democrats.

(08-24-2026 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Mumbling? No, I'm speaking very clearly. I'm talking about Hastings, Michigan and Barry County.

Speaking of which, have you ever been there? I have multiple times and will be again this Saturday.

Hastings is small city in rural Michigan with a population of around 7,500 people. Almost 99% of them are US citizens as of 2024, where none of the households reported speaking a non-English language at home as their primary shared language.
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/hastings-mi

Barry County has a population of around 63k. Just over 98% of them are US citizens as of 2024, and again, reports no households speaking a non-English language as their primary shared language.
https://datausa.io/profile/geo/barry-county-mi

In the 2024 election, trump got over 66% of the vote.
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/elec...rry-county

But please go on about how they're being forced to add non-citizens to their voting rolls by that meanie SOS, Jocelyn Benson, and that they apparently have no way of finding them and have to let them all vote...seemingly...for democrats.

I'm talking about the whole state of Michigan, try and keep up.

"non-citizens are being placed on the voter rolls at the Secretary of State level"

Here's another Tom,

“Hello, my name is Sarah DeBoer. I’m the clerk of Climax Township in Kalamazoo County, MIchigan. Today, I’m joining with other clerks across the state of Michigan calling for federal assistance in verifying the citizenship status of those on our voter rolls. Under MCl 168.515 and MCl 168.520. I’m asking for this to be done legally and in my office to ensure that the voter files are protected under Michigan law.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/08...king-feds/