(02-09-2026 05:17 PM)whupemall Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:47 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  Even if we win out and lose in the tournament finals a return to the NIT is unlikely. If we win the tournament a play-in game is a possibility depending on how bad some of the others are. But a chance to earn an extra tournament credit in Dayton is preferable to getting blown out in our first game.

Oh, I've accepted that much.

For pretty much all of us in CUSA this season, Flames included, we either win the conference tourney or we'll be watching March Madness from our comfy chairs.

Liberty is the only one with a prayer of getting any kind of at-large bid, and those chances are slim.

The Flames are also the only team with any chance of being higher than a 16 seed in the Dance.

I'm with you, though. Between #16 and play-in, I think I'd choose play-in. The money's better.

Lmao, Sam Houston would be a 12 or 13 seed if they win the tournament.

(02-15-2026 01:37 PM)StroKat Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 05:17 PM)whupemall Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:47 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  Even if we win out and lose in the tournament finals a return to the NIT is unlikely. If we win the tournament a play-in game is a possibility depending on how bad some of the others are. But a chance to earn an extra tournament credit in Dayton is preferable to getting blown out in our first game.

Oh, I've accepted that much.

For pretty much all of us in CUSA this season, Flames included, we either win the conference tourney or we'll be watching March Madness from our comfy chairs.

Liberty is the only one with a prayer of getting any kind of at-large bid, and those chances are slim.

The Flames are also the only team with any chance of being higher than a 16 seed in the Dance.

I'm with you, though. Between #16 and play-in, I think I'd choose play-in. The money's better.

Lmao, Sam Houston would be a 12 or 13 seed if they win the tournament.

Agree if we finish up strong with our 8 players and won the tournament our NET would put us in at least 13 or 14 spot

This week in the NET.
No. 75 Liberty
No. 106 Sam Houston
No. 160 Middle Tennessee
No. 172 New Mexico State
No. 175 Western Kentucky
No. 187 Kennesaw State
No. 197 FIU
No. 207 Missouri State
No. 217 Jacksonville State
No. 247 Louisiana Teach
No. 264 UTEP
No. 269 Delaware.

(02-15-2026 01:37 PM)StroKat Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 05:17 PM)whupemall Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:47 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  Even if we win out and lose in the tournament finals a return to the NIT is unlikely. If we win the tournament a play-in game is a possibility depending on how bad some of the others are. But a chance to earn an extra tournament credit in Dayton is preferable to getting blown out in our first game.

Oh, I've accepted that much.

For pretty much all of us in CUSA this season, Flames included, we either win the conference tourney or we'll be watching March Madness from our comfy chairs.

Liberty is the only one with a prayer of getting any kind of at-large bid, and those chances are slim.

The Flames are also the only team with any chance of being higher than a 16 seed in the Dance.

I'm with you, though. Between #16 and play-in, I think I'd choose play-in. The money's better.

Lmao, Sam Houston would be a 12 or 13 seed if they win the tournament.

I think a 14 depending on how you finish the season. There isn't anything that stands out about SHSU that would put them ahead of other conference champs. Pull up a bracket matrix and tell me which 12/13 seed teams you guys would be in front of.

(02-19-2026 09:55 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(02-15-2026 01:37 PM)StroKat Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 05:17 PM)whupemall Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:47 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  Even if we win out and lose in the tournament finals a return to the NIT is unlikely. If we win the tournament a play-in game is a possibility depending on how bad some of the others are. But a chance to earn an extra tournament credit in Dayton is preferable to getting blown out in our first game.

Oh, I've accepted that much.

For pretty much all of us in CUSA this season, Flames included, we either win the conference tourney or we'll be watching March Madness from our comfy chairs.

Liberty is the only one with a prayer of getting any kind of at-large bid, and those chances are slim.

The Flames are also the only team with any chance of being higher than a 16 seed in the Dance.

I'm with you, though. Between #16 and play-in, I think I'd choose play-in. The money's better.

Lmao, Sam Houston would be a 12 or 13 seed if they win the tournament.

I think a 14 depending on how you finish the season. There isn't anything that stands out about SHSU that would put them ahead of other conference champs. Pull up a bracket matrix and tell me which 12/13 seed teams you guys would be in front of.

Liberty 12. Sammy would have to win out from here to sniff a 13. Anyone other than those 2 that win it as long as it was a top 6 seed would be a 14/15.

(02-20-2026 09:48 AM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  

(02-19-2026 09:55 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(02-15-2026 01:37 PM)StroKat Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 05:17 PM)whupemall Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:47 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  Even if we win out and lose in the tournament finals a return to the NIT is unlikely. If we win the tournament a play-in game is a possibility depending on how bad some of the others are. But a chance to earn an extra tournament credit in Dayton is preferable to getting blown out in our first game.

Oh, I've accepted that much.

For pretty much all of us in CUSA this season, Flames included, we either win the conference tourney or we'll be watching March Madness from our comfy chairs.

Liberty is the only one with a prayer of getting any kind of at-large bid, and those chances are slim.

The Flames are also the only team with any chance of being higher than a 16 seed in the Dance.

I'm with you, though. Between #16 and play-in, I think I'd choose play-in. The money's better.

Lmao, Sam Houston would be a 12 or 13 seed if they win the tournament.

I think a 14 depending on how you finish the season. There isn't anything that stands out about SHSU that would put them ahead of other conference champs. Pull up a bracket matrix and tell me which 12/13 seed teams you guys would be in front of.

Liberty 12. Sammy would have to win out from here to sniff a 13. Anyone other than those 2 that win it as long as it was a top 6 seed would be a 14/15.

Depends on who wins those conferences right?

(02-20-2026 02:56 PM)Kat1990 Wrote:  

(02-20-2026 09:48 AM)Shadow_Son Wrote:  

(02-19-2026 09:55 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(02-15-2026 01:37 PM)StroKat Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 05:17 PM)whupemall Wrote:  Oh, I've accepted that much.

For pretty much all of us in CUSA this season, Flames included, we either win the conference tourney or we'll be watching March Madness from our comfy chairs.

Liberty is the only one with a prayer of getting any kind of at-large bid, and those chances are slim.

The Flames are also the only team with any chance of being higher than a 16 seed in the Dance.

I'm with you, though. Between #16 and play-in, I think I'd choose play-in. The money's better.

Lmao, Sam Houston would be a 12 or 13 seed if they win the tournament.

I think a 14 depending on how you finish the season. There isn't anything that stands out about SHSU that would put them ahead of other conference champs. Pull up a bracket matrix and tell me which 12/13 seed teams you guys would be in front of.

Liberty 12. Sammy would have to win out from here to sniff a 13. Anyone other than those 2 that win it as long as it was a top 6 seed would be a 14/15.

Depends on who wins those conferences right?

Assuming the current projected winner prevails, yes. If you want to assume the worst team in every single bid league wins the title then sure, SHSU stock skyrockets.


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Data as of 2.21.26
https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/47272

CUSA
iberty 90
Sam Houston 102
Western Ky. 152
Middle Tenn. 157
Kennesaw St. 176
New Mexico St. 178
FIU 191
Jacksonville St. 217
Missouri St. 219
Louisiana Tech 242
UTEP 263
Delaware 272
Average 188 - average is 175 EXCLUDING departing UTEP & LaTech

Conference Rankings and average conference comps
6-Mountain West 113
7-Atlantic 10 133
9-MVC 142
10-American 161
**11-CUSA 175 EXCLUDING departing LaTech and UTEP**
11-WAC 178
13-CUSA 188
17-MAC 200
20-Sun Belt 226

Below shows the number of Quad 1 wins and the number of Quad 4 losses (AKA good wins vs bad losses).
CUSA
Quad 1 wins - 0
Quad 4 losses - 36

SBC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 68

MAC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 43

MWC
Quad 1 wins - 17
Quad 4 losses - 12

Atlantic 10
Quad 1 wins - 7
Quad 4 losses - 20

American
Quad 1 wins - 5
Quad 4 losses - 35

WAC
Quad 1 wins - 0
Quad 4 losses - 12

MVC
Quad 1 wins - 2
Quad 4 losses - 13

Looking at all conferences from a NET standpoint:

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2...ndings-all

I see 11 leagues that our projected champ would almost certainly finish ahead of.

Another handful that we are neck and neck with, especially if someone besides Liberty wins CUSA.

I think our champ is most likely looking at a 13 or 14. Maybe sliding up to a 12 under ideal conditions. Dropping like a stone if that champ is someone other than Liberty, SHSU, WKU, or Kennesaw.

Data as of 3.1.26
https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/47272

CUSA
Liberty 94
Sam Houston 96
Western Ky. 133
Kennesaw St. 160
Middle Tenn. 161
New Mexico St. 186
FIU 200
Jacksonville St. 214
Missouri St. 218
Louisiana Tech 248
UTEP 271
Delaware 276
Average 188 - average is 174 EXCLUDING departing UTEP & LaTech

Conference Rankings and average conference comps
6-Mountain West 114
7-Atlantic 10 132
9-MVC 141
10-American 160
**11-CUSA 174 EXCLUDING departing LaTech and UTEP**
11-WAC 179
13-CUSA 188
17-MAC 200
20-Sun Belt 226

Below shows the number of Quad 1 wins and the number of Quad 4 losses (AKA good wins vs bad losses).
CUSA
Quad 1 wins - 1 (Liberty)
Quad 4 losses - 38

SBC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 68

MAC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 49

MWC
Quad 1 wins - 19
Quad 4 losses - 13

Atlantic 10
Quad 1 wins - 10
Quad 4 losses - 21

American
Quad 1 wins - 5
Quad 4 losses - 38

WAC
Quad 1 wins - 0
Quad 4 losses - 19

MVC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 15

WKU up 42 spots in the NET since 2/17.

Sam and Western playing the best ball at the moment

'Toppers should bring a good contingency to the Rocket City

Is U-Lib resting for the Tourney? Surprised they lost at home to Tech

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(03-05-2026 09:55 PM)hannibalDawg Wrote:  Is U-Lib resting for the Tourney? Surprised they lost at home to Tech

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These guys need a rest. The starters have played 35+ minutes in most games all season. McKay’s been only using 2-3 guys off the bench. I think fatigue and our lack of size has finally caught up with us. If things don’t drastically improve we’re not going to be a team to worry about in the conference tournament.

This will be the last update until the tourney is over.

Data as of 3.15.26
https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/47272

CUSA
Liberty 106
Sam Houston 107
Kennesaw St.(AQ) 155
Western Ky. 160
Middle Tenn. 163
New Mexico St. 190
FIU 197
Missouri St. 206
Louisiana Tech 209
Jacksonville St. 216
UTEP 268
Delaware 287
Average 189 - average is 179 EXCLUDING departing UTEP & LaTech

Conference Rankings and average conference comps
6-Mountain West 114
7-Atlantic 10 132
9-MVC 141
10-American 160
**11-CUSA 179 EXCLUDING departing LaTech and UTEP**
11-WAC 181
13-CUSA 189
17-MAC 201
20-Sun Belt 226

Below shows the number of Quad 1 wins and the number of Quad 4 losses (AKA good wins vs bad losses).
CUSA
Quad 1 wins - 1 (Liberty)
Quad 4 losses - 42

SBC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 74

MAC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 52

MWC
Quad 1 wins - 23
Quad 4 losses - 15

Atlantic 10
Quad 1 wins - 13
Quad 4 losses - 29

American
Quad 1 wins - 8
Quad 4 losses - 29

WAC
Quad 1 wins - 0
Quad 4 losses - 25

MVC
Quad 1 wins - 5
Quad 4 losses - 15

The MAC got two bids, the Southland champion (McNeese) got a 12 seed, Belt's champ (Troy) a 13 seed, and CUSA's champ a 14 seed. Not saying I agree with this valuation, and I know KSU has the potential to beat someone in the Dance, especially those just mentioned, but it does speak to where CUSA is on the national scene.

That said, Go Owls!

(03-15-2026 06:18 PM)Tech80 Wrote:  The MAC got two bids, the Southland champion (McNeese) got a 12 seed, Belt's champ (Troy) a 13 seed, and CUSA's champ a 14 seed. Not saying I agree with this valuation, and I know KSU has the potential to beat someone in the Dance, especially those just mentioned, but it does speak to where CUSA is on the national scene.

That said, Go Owls!

I think it says that our 4 and 6 seed made the conference final. Troy had a strong record and decent net, Mcneese the same. Miami Ohio had a hell of a year and only one loss in their tournament. Generally speaking I would say conference has something to do with seeding, but individual team records matter too. If Liberty or Sam would have made it we would have been looking at a better seed than Troy. If LaTech would have made it we would have been looking at a first four game due to their abhorrent NET. Hopefully we can resolve this legal issue so that Tech can go drag the Sunbelt down.

(03-15-2026 06:56 PM)Owlref11 Wrote:  

(03-15-2026 06:18 PM)Tech80 Wrote:  The MAC got two bids, the Southland champion (McNeese) got a 12 seed, Belt's champ (Troy) a 13 seed, and CUSA's champ a 14 seed. Not saying I agree with this valuation, and I know KSU has the potential to beat someone in the Dance, especially those just mentioned, but it does speak to where CUSA is on the national scene.

That said, Go Owls!

I think it says that our 4 and 6 seed made the conference final. Troy had a strong record and decent net, Mcneese the same. Miami Ohio had a hell of a year and only one loss in their tournament. Generally speaking I would say conference has something to do with seeding, but individual team records matter too. If Liberty or Sam would have made it we would have been looking at a better seed than Troy. If LaTech would have made it we would have been looking at a first four game due to their abhorrent NET. Hopefully we can resolve this legal issue so that Tech can go drag the Sunbelt down.

Okay.

Final update of the year with final numbers. I'll probably update this again next season starting on the first Monday of December which, historically, is when the first NET data is released.

Data as of 4.6.26
https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/47272

CUSA
Liberty 102
Sam Houston 109
Kennesaw St.(AQ) 147
Western Ky. 156
Middle Tenn. 162
New Mexico St. 187
FIU 195
Missouri St. 205
Louisiana Tech 208
Jacksonville St. 214
UTEP 268
Delaware 284
Average 186 - average is 176 EXCLUDING departing UTEP & LaTech

Conference Rankings and average conference comps
6-Mountain West 113
7-Atlantic 10 130
9-MVC 144
10-American 158
**11-CUSA 176 EXCLUDING departing LaTech and UTEP**
11-WAC 182
13-CUSA 186
17-MAC 203
20-Sun Belt 227

Below shows the number of Quad 1 wins and the number of Quad 4 losses (AKA good wins vs bad losses).
CUSA
Quad 1 wins - 1 (Liberty)
Quad 4 losses - 42

SBC
Quad 1 wins - 1
Quad 4 losses - 74

MAC
Quad 1 wins - 2
Quad 4 losses - 52

MWC
Quad 1 wins - 24
Quad 4 losses - 15

Atlantic 10
Quad 1 wins - 16
Quad 4 losses - 29

American
Quad 1 wins - 8
Quad 4 losses - 29

WAC
Quad 1 wins - 0
Quad 4 losses - 25

MVC
Quad 1 wins - 4
Quad 4 losses - 17

Thanks for posting these numbers all season.