(03-02-2026 05:50 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 05:28 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 05:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 04:44 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 04:40 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  MTG is following me on Twitter. God help me. lol

She’s single and ready to mingle. Good luck!!

Would

Make a Twitter account. lol

I'd delete my account.

Would not.

Fair enough.

There is a reason China and Russia have bot come to the aide of Iran....China has been extremely quiet of late, especially after Venezuela.

(03-02-2026 06:27 PM)hburg Wrote:  There is a reason China and Russia have bot come to the aide of Iran....China has been extremely quiet of late, especially after Venezuela.

Because their best air defense systems never saw us coming. And their other great weapons systems got disabled by us.

(03-02-2026 07:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 06:27 PM)hburg Wrote:  There is a reason China and Russia have bot come to the aide of Iran....China has been extremely quiet of late, especially after Venezuela.

Because their best air defense systems never saw us coming. And their other great weapons systems got disabled by us.

And we haven't even revealed what we have in Space.

What I find interesting is how China has been neutered with regard to Iran. They need safe passage for Middle Eastern oil now that Venezuela is problematic for them. That means they can't truly support a decapitated Iran and have an interest in keeping the Straights and Gulf open. Gee, I wonder why Maduro had to go first. Hmm! It's not always the cards you are dealt, but rather the order in which they are played!

A good friend who is former Marine reserves (six years) is convinced the U.S. military has some space-oriented systems that the general U.S. population (and our enemies, for that matter) cannot remotely fathom.

(03-02-2026 05:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 05:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 04:44 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 04:40 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  MTG is following me on Twitter. God help me. lol

She’s single and ready to mingle. Good luck!!

Would

Well, I have known for years there was something seriously wrong with you.

Yeah. Even if she was attractive, she's WAY over the line on the hot/crazy quadrants.

(03-02-2026 05:27 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 05:08 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 02:13 PM)Claw Wrote:  We aren't seeing current Chinese weapons yet. We may soon.

You some how think Iran is thinking "we better hold back the good stuff"? Which is silly because with in 30 minutes they had to know things were not going well. Or are you saying China is going to come to Iran's protection? Which is even sillier.

There's a reason.

China claims to have hypersonic anti-ship missiles. They claim they can successfully attack and sink a carrier.

They might let Iran have a few of these.

If Iran sinks a carrier, it's not an overt act of China. They technically have clean hands. The fallout is that our carriers are now useless to defend Taiwan.

If the weapon doesn't work, then their engineers go back to the drawing board.

Either way China gets some benefit from trying this. The risk is having the technology exposed or worse fall into our hands.

We'll see. It could happen.

I dont think hypersonic weapons are really what they claim when it comes to using them against the navy.

The problem with hypersonics (and why we really didnt pursue them after figuring out how to do it many decades ago) is anything going that fast in the lower atmosphere is going to be so hot that the oxygen around it becomes plasma. Electronic signals cant get through that plasma envelope (same reason the astronauts lose contact with the surface during re-entry). Hypersonics can work against stationary targets---but I dont see how they can be effective against moving targets unless they slow way down---and at that point---they arent the same speedy hyper-sonic missile threat anymore. Even against stationary targets, hypersonics are only going to be as accurate as your intertial guidence systems can make them---so unless your inertial systems are very accurate---the hypersonic missile is not going to be all that great unless they are carrying nukes. With no ability to send or receive electronic signals means no other kinds of guidance systems are going to work as long as the plasma envelope in place.

(03-02-2026 07:46 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  A good friend who is former Marine reserves (six years) is convinced the U.S. military has some space-oriented systems that the general population (or our enemies) cannot remotely fathom.

H.A.R.P. is quite capable of playing a tune that could put multitudes to rest. And it is an older system, not the surprises.

(03-02-2026 05:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, our troops' death toll is up to 6 now. No details yet that I have heard.

They found two in the rubble from the attack that killed the others.

I guess they weren't disclosing that some soldiers were missing.

Under a new government that is more friendly to American that has all sanctions lifted I dont believe for a second President Trump is going to cut China off from oil they need for every day living. Now if China is acting up, sure, but otherwise I dont think so. Doing so you are pushing a country into maybe doing something they probably wouldnt have. Also as long as China stays out of this and Russia's war with Ukraine. At least directly, you dont punish those actions.

(03-02-2026 07:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 07:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 06:27 PM)hburg Wrote:  There is a reason China and Russia have bot come to the aide of Iran....China has been extremely quiet of late, especially after Venezuela.

Because their best air defense systems never saw us coming. And their other great weapons systems got disabled by us.

And we haven't even revealed what we have in Space.

What I find interesting is how China has been neutered with regard to Iran. They need safe passage for Middle Eastern oil now that Venezuela is problematic for them. That means they can't truly support a decapitated Iran and have an interest in keeping the Straights and Gulf open. Gee, I wonder why Maduro had to go first. Hmm! It's not always the cards you are dealt, but rather the order in which they are played!

Like I hinted earlier, China's oil supply has been shut down for now. This has to be a big problem for them.

(03-02-2026 07:46 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  A good friend who is former Marine reserves (six years) is convinced the U.S. military has some space-oriented systems that the general U.S. population (and our enemies, for that matter) cannot remotely fathom.

UFOs???

(03-02-2026 07:50 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 05:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Btw, our troops' death toll is up to 6 now. No details yet that I have heard.

They found two in the rubble from the attack that killed the others.

I guess they weren't disclosing that some soldiers were missing.

Plus the military typically hold back that info a day or two to allow time to properly notify loved ones.

(03-02-2026 07:51 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 07:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 07:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 06:27 PM)hburg Wrote:  There is a reason China and Russia have bot come to the aide of Iran....China has been extremely quiet of late, especially after Venezuela.

Because their best air defense systems never saw us coming. And their other great weapons systems got disabled by us.

And we haven't even revealed what we have in Space.

What I find interesting is how China has been neutered with regard to Iran. They need safe passage for Middle Eastern oil now that Venezuela is problematic for them. That means they can't truly support a decapitated Iran and have an interest in keeping the Straights and Gulf open. Gee, I wonder why Maduro had to go first. Hmm! It's not always the cards you are dealt, but rather the order in which they are played!

Like I hinted earlier, China's oil supply has been shut down for now. This has to be a big problem for them.

This is exactly what caused the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor. They needed oil to sustain war efforts in China, and the U.S., who supplied roughly 95% of their oil cut them off. China has oil deposits but not enough to meet the demand, so they heavily rely on imported oil. Off shore deposits are why they are flexing their might in the South China sea. If China feels the squeeze and they get desperate enough, don't be surprised if they lash out militarily.

(03-02-2026 08:03 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 07:51 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 07:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 07:00 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-02-2026 06:27 PM)hburg Wrote:  There is a reason China and Russia have bot come to the aide of Iran....China has been extremely quiet of late, especially after Venezuela.

Because their best air defense systems never saw us coming. And their other great weapons systems got disabled by us.

And we haven't even revealed what we have in Space.

What I find interesting is how China has been neutered with regard to Iran. They need safe passage for Middle Eastern oil now that Venezuela is problematic for them. That means they can't truly support a decapitated Iran and have an interest in keeping the Straights and Gulf open. Gee, I wonder why Maduro had to go first. Hmm! It's not always the cards you are dealt, but rather the order in which they are played!

Like I hinted earlier, China's oil supply has been shut down for now. This has to be a big problem for them.

This is exactly what caused the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor. They needed oil to sustain war efforts in China, and the U.S., who supplied roughly 95% of their oil cut them off. China has oil deposits but not enough to meet the demand, so they heavily rely on imported oil. Off shore deposits are why they are flexing their might in the South China sea. If China feels the squeeze and they get desperate enough, don't be surprised if they lash out militarily.

You're right about Japan back in 1941 but China only gets about 12-14% of their seaborne oil from Iran. They'll merely just buy more Saudi and Russian oil, especially cheap Russian oil.

China is storing 600,000 barrels of oil a day and has been for a long time.

They are building an additional 126 million barrels of storage capacity just in 2026.

They are digging in for a long wait if needed.

People of a certain age may recall this song after Iran took Americans hostage in 1979. It has been decades, but they are now being held accountable for their monstrous act.

“ Ayatollah in a box”, indeed.

(03-02-2026 08:47 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  People of a certain age may recall this song after Iran took Americans hostage in 1979. It has been decades, but they are now being held accountable for their monstrous act.

“ Ayatollah in a box”, indeed.

Now the meme with Trump singing the song...

Almost the whole country felt that way back then. I remember having that full blast jammin' in my friend's Camaro with the windows down.

Its like the feeling from those of us who did duck and cover drills in the 60s when the Berlin Wall came down. Younger generations just can't comprehend.

Israelvhas begun ground invasion into southern Lebanon.

The location where the council was choosing the next successor has been bombed....