(12-04-2025 03:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 03:11 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 01:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 10:06 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 09:05 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Try the AUMF. Numbnuts.

Didn’t complain because there was an actual underlying authorization for the use of force. That is A, U, and F for above.

Now the schtick is “WHADDABOUT <something Obama>”. At least the comment has moved for once away from Biden. Still the same tired schtick. And better yet, rife with an apparent crucial lack of understanding that AUMF was in effect.

I addressed this in an earlier thread on this topic. The AUMF was for al-Qaeda. Not ISIS or al-Shabaab, or JNIM, or whatever other terrorist org you want to lump in that we've attacked over the years. The arguments that an AUMF were needed for AQ and CT actions was predicated on the belief that the President needed Congressional approval for long term, extended military action against combatants.

Obama absolutely used similar strikes against designated entities not included in the AUMF, so if you're going to rest your laurels on the AUMF then this isn't something you can have both ways. Therefore its relevant to establish a pattern of fact moreso than whataboutism. Moreover, Trump like Obama with the expansion of his targeted operations relied on Article II of the Constitution (which defines the powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief) as a standalone authority for limited military actions, particularly when those actions were intended to defend U.S. national interests and were considered to be "short of traditional war."

This is not a winnable argument to suggest that the current President doesn't have the authority to conduct targeted special operations such as this when every other President has used it to some degree without an AUMF or a Declaration of War.

lol ... which is the beauty of the 'irony corner' he painted himself into by using "WHADDABOUT..." ... at least he's good at some of summin' ...

Funny, I pointed out a whadabout. Didnt use one. Maybe try and reread it.

doesn't your profession rely on whatabout as precedent, Ja!?

I don't have to reread it ... you don't like how this one's going ... we get it ... now, you can go fk off with all the bs that makes you "uncomfortable"...

And you can similarly fk off with your load of bs, if that is the path that gets your toes tingly.......

(12-04-2025 03:30 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 03:29 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 03:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  A reminder for people in this thread.

The AUP. (Note rule no. 2.)

Some people are incapable of doing that, GC.

Then they can be reported and warned, and maybe even banned.

You do that punkin. Goes both ways, mind you.

Guess what, folks? Tom Cotten said after the classified briefing, there were actually 4 strikes on that boat.

And the two survivors climbed back onto the boat, were saving bags of coke, and seemed to be in communication with others.

Therefore, they were deemed to be back in the fight, and legit targets. Bye bye.

Also, David Shedd, a former Obama defense official, said yesterday, per WaPo, that they did double taps on drone strikes "all the time."

So...just one more thing in a long line where Obama did it without comment from the peanut gallery, but let Trump do it, and they raise holy hell.

(12-04-2025 04:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Also, David Shedd, a former Obama defense official, said yesterday, per WaPo, that they did double taps on drone strikes "all the time."

So...just one more thing in a long line where Obama did it without comment from the peanut gallery, but let Trump do it, and they raise holy hell.

To be honest, I see you are now making the issue 'double taps'. That isnt the issue. Maybe try the Geneva Convention provisions for the proper standard. Or just mindlessly translate that to something else.

Or just use your new definition as another WHADABOUT. Cool cool.

Funny how you say we should use the Geneva Convention in dealing with terrorists when they don't do that with us.

Nah. Rules of Engagement don't apply here.

(12-04-2025 04:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Also, David Shedd, a former Obama defense official, said yesterday, per WaPo, that they did double taps on drone strikes "all the time."

So...just one more thing in a long line where Obama did it without comment from the peanut gallery, but let Trump do it, and they raise holy hell.

So you agree its wrong good job.

So Obama and Biden were wrong in doing it, too, then? Or just Trump?

Actually, don't answer that. You're just a troll, "Roxie".

(12-04-2025 04:14 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 04:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Also, David Shedd, a former Obama defense official, said yesterday, per WaPo, that they did double taps on drone strikes "all the time."

So...just one more thing in a long line where Obama did it without comment from the peanut gallery, but let Trump do it, and they raise holy hell.

To be honest, I see you are now making the issue 'double taps'. That isnt the issue. Maybe try the Geneva Convention provisions for the proper standard. Or just mindlessly translate that to something else.

Or just use your new definition as another WHADABOUT. Cool cool.

The Geneva Convention does not apply for this situation. I could be wrong but look it up.

(12-04-2025 05:00 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 04:14 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 04:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Also, David Shedd, a former Obama defense official, said yesterday, per WaPo, that they did double taps on drone strikes "all the time."

So...just one more thing in a long line where Obama did it without comment from the peanut gallery, but let Trump do it, and they raise holy hell.

To be honest, I see you are now making the issue 'double taps'. That isnt the issue. Maybe try the Geneva Convention provisions for the proper standard. Or just mindlessly translate that to something else.

Or just use your new definition as another WHADABOUT. Cool cool.

The Geneva Convention does not apply for this situation. I could be wrong but look it up.

I'm certain it doesn't, if I'm remembering correctly. But people like Ofer don't care about that either.

(12-04-2025 04:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Guess what, folks? Tom Cotten said after the classified briefing, there were actually 4 strikes on that boat.

And the two survivors climbed back onto the boat, were saving bags of coke, and seemed to be in communication with others.

Therefore, they were deemed to be back in the fight, and legit targets. Bye bye.

*Cotton

(12-04-2025 03:41 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I believe Roxie is Mensa

Funny I just posted about that being a sock account.

Its obvious, look at the date it was created. Just prior to the election because they knew they'd just troll around after the curbstomping


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(12-04-2025 05:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 05:07 PM)no longer banned grammERR nazi horsey Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 04:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Guess what, folks? Tom Cotten said after the classified briefing, there were actually 4 strikes on that boat.

And the two survivors climbed back onto the boat, were saving bags of coke, and seemed to be in communication with others.

Therefore, they were deemed to be back in the fight, and legit targets. Bye bye.

Bwhahahaha

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(12-04-2025 05:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-04-2025 05:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Outstanding

(12-04-2025 04:18 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Funny how you say we should use the Geneva Convention in dealing with terrorists when they don't do that with us.

Nah. Rules of Engagement don't apply here.

Maybe detail exactly who the "terrorists" are, then detail their violations of Geneva.

Or just jump up and down and scream rhetoric. or just magically chant "terrorist", wave your magic wand, and they are now not just enemy combatants, but illegal enemy combatants. Kind of like what your god does.

And, punkin, very different issues between "Rules of Engagement" and "Geneva Convention"

(12-04-2025 05:49 PM)maximus Wrote:  Bwhahahaha

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Nice touch with the little green z turd