(09-04-2025 07:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 03:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  When was the last time a televised hearing was anything different?

I watch a lot of them. They usually have their moments, but this one was knock down drag out from beginning to end. Much more like an MMA bout than a Senate hearing.

Difference was how shrill the anti-RFKJs were, and how feisty RFKJ was in fighting back. The entire almost 4 hour hearing. Crazy but entertaining.

was in the field listening on the headphones ... didn't the first question asked get a "the answer is no" from the questioner when RFK Jr. opened his mouth to speak w/o getting out a syllable other than his usual gurgle before the word?!!! ... I about fell out laughing so hard ... #par4theCourseFromThePeanutGallery

Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Any I've seen in the last few years were like that. Totally useless. Just political theater.

Did you actually watch this one? I watch most. This was way over the top from normal.

Yes, they are all useless, but this was screaming throughout, and no ability for RFKJ to say more than about 3 words. And a few Rs went after him, too. The ones taking in big pharma money.

(09-04-2025 07:51 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 07:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 05:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you're a never trumper ... therefore, I'll take that for it's 'grain' o' salt...

I voted for him three times. You just looney right.

bwahahaha ... I'm a pro-choice (1st tri or 15 weeks ... just something both can live with ... pardon the pun), weed smokin', not a church goin' a-theist ...

yeah buggy, I reckon I fit the mold of ye ol' looney right...

you only voted for him b/c the other was nolo contendere, eh?!

how's the libertarian in ya likin' those tariffs, eh?

I'm not a RINO like a lot of you MAGA people and the Libertarians. I'm a real Republican, also relatively pro life, church going, drug avoiding. There are plenty of weed smoking atheists on the looney right.

But I can criticize Republican cabinet members when they are wrong. Of course, RFK is not a Republican.

MAGA = RINO ... that's news to nuts ... thanks for clarifying...

Yep. Not a chance in hell RINOs turned into MAGA.

(09-04-2025 07:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 05:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  No. JD is just ticking off potential allies. He's lumping everyone who doesn't believe in the Food Babe in with the looney left.

you're a never trumper ... therefore, I'll take that for it's 'grain' o' salt...

I voted for him three times. You just looney right.

bwahahaha ... I'm a pro-choice (1st tri or 15 weeks ... just something both can live with ... pardon the pun), weed smokin', not a church goin' a-theist ...

yeah buggy, I reckon I fit the mold of ye ol' looney right...

you only voted for him b/c the other was nolo contendere, eh?!

how's the libertarian in ya likin' those tariffs, eh?

I'm not a RINO like a lot of you MAGA people and the Libertarians. I'm a real Republican, also relatively pro life, church going, drug avoiding. There are plenty of weed smoking atheists on the looney right.

But I can criticize Republican cabinet members when they are wrong. Of course, RFK is not a Republican.

I'm not a RINO. I'm not a Libertarian. And I'm certainly not a "real" Republican.

When it comes to politics, I am a noncommital agnostic who would prefer that both parties die a violent death. The Rs usually aren't much better than the Ds, over the years. They just spend our money on different stuff.

Unfortunately, I am a temporary rabid R, b/c the Ds have gone completely over the cliff to socialism and beyond, and evil has taken over their ranks.

Hopefully, I live long enough to see the current form of the Dem party die. If I am so lucky, I will then return to my true political self, and also oppose the typical R nonsense, too.

However, if MAGA continues to reign, then count me in. It's not really Republican at all. It's populist, which is much closer to my POV.

(09-04-2025 08:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 07:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 05:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you're a never trumper ... therefore, I'll take that for it's 'grain' o' salt...

I voted for him three times. You just looney right.

bwahahaha ... I'm a pro-choice (1st tri or 15 weeks ... just something both can live with ... pardon the pun), weed smokin', not a church goin' a-theist ...

yeah buggy, I reckon I fit the mold of ye ol' looney right...

you only voted for him b/c the other was nolo contendere, eh?!

how's the libertarian in ya likin' those tariffs, eh?

I'm not a RINO like a lot of you MAGA people and the Libertarians. I'm a real Republican, also relatively pro life, church going, drug avoiding. There are plenty of weed smoking atheists on the looney right.

But I can criticize Republican cabinet members when they are wrong. Of course, RFK is not a Republican.

I'm not a RINO. I'm not a Libertarian. And I'm certainly not a "real" Republican.

When it comes to politics, I am a noncommital agnostic who would prefer that both parties die a violent death. The Rs usually aren't much better than the Ds, over the years. They just spend our money on different stuff.

Unfortunately, I am a temporary rabid R, b/c the Ds have gone completely over the cliff to socialism and beyond, and evil has taken over their ranks.

Hopefully, I live long enough to see the current form of the Dem party die. If I am so lucky, I will then return to my true political self, and also oppose the typical R nonsense, too.

However, if MAGA continues to reign, then count me in. It's not really Republican at all. It's populist, which is much closer to my POV.

Great post and ditto

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 03:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 10:22 AM)TripleA Wrote:  This is hilarious stuff. I've never seen a room full of Senators on a committee get this worked up about any witness or any subject. They are raising their voices, their hands are shaking, they are asking questions, then cutting off RFKJ and answering themselves, etc.

And of course, what they are demanding is that RFKJ resign, although they aren't saying it directly.

Of course, I'm talking about the Dems, but Sen. Cassidy, an R and a doc from Louisiana, was just as bad.

This is not a hearing at all, which usually highlights an exchange of ideas, or at least statements from both sides. This is simply a public lynching.

I have to admit, as crazy as it is, it's entertaining.

When was the last time a televised hearing was anything different?

I watch a lot of them. They usually have their moments, but this one was knock down drag out from beginning to end. Much more like an MMA bout than a Senate hearing.

Difference was how shrill the anti-RFKJs were, and how feisty RFKJ was in fighting back. The entire almost 4 hour hearing. Crazy but entertaining.

was in the field listening on the headphones ... didn't the first question asked get a "the answer is no" from the questioner when RFK Jr. opened his mouth to speak w/o getting out a syllable other than his usual gurgle before the word?!!! ... I about fell out laughing so hard ... #par4theCourseFromThePeanutGallery

Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

(09-05-2025 08:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 03:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  When was the last time a televised hearing was anything different?

I watch a lot of them. They usually have their moments, but this one was knock down drag out from beginning to end. Much more like an MMA bout than a Senate hearing.

Difference was how shrill the anti-RFKJs were, and how feisty RFKJ was in fighting back. The entire almost 4 hour hearing. Crazy but entertaining.

was in the field listening on the headphones ... didn't the first question asked get a "the answer is no" from the questioner when RFK Jr. opened his mouth to speak w/o getting out a syllable other than his usual gurgle before the word?!!! ... I about fell out laughing so hard ... #par4theCourseFromThePeanutGallery

Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

Not in my 80s. Don't make me older than I am.

Did you watch the entire hearing, as I did? I bet not. And I'm old enough to have watched more hearings for longer than you have been alive.

I didn't say this never happened before. It happens all the time. But this one was more vitriolic than most, to the point of being noteworthy. Every single Dem went batsh!t crazy. Several Rs did the same against RFKJ. That's not normal.

Go watch the entire hearing, then get back to me.

(09-05-2025 09:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I watch a lot of them. They usually have their moments, but this one was knock down drag out from beginning to end. Much more like an MMA bout than a Senate hearing.

Difference was how shrill the anti-RFKJs were, and how feisty RFKJ was in fighting back. The entire almost 4 hour hearing. Crazy but entertaining.

was in the field listening on the headphones ... didn't the first question asked get a "the answer is no" from the questioner when RFK Jr. opened his mouth to speak w/o getting out a syllable other than his usual gurgle before the word?!!! ... I about fell out laughing so hard ... #par4theCourseFromThePeanutGallery

Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

Not in my 80s. Don't make me older than I am.

Did you watch the entire hearing, as I did? I bet not. And I'm old enough to have watched more hearings for longer than you have been alive.

I didn't say this never happened before. It happens all the time. But this one was more vitriolic than most, to the point of being noteworthy. Every single Dem went batsh!t crazy. Several Rs did the same against RFKJ. That's not normal.

Go watch the entire hearing, then get back to me.

No, I work for a living.

And yes, when the person testifying is a controversial figure, they tend to turn into what you saw. This is nothing new and you should know this.

And it should tell you something that even some R's aren't happy with RFK jr.

(09-05-2025 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  was in the field listening on the headphones ... didn't the first question asked get a "the answer is no" from the questioner when RFK Jr. opened his mouth to speak w/o getting out a syllable other than his usual gurgle before the word?!!! ... I about fell out laughing so hard ... #par4theCourseFromThePeanutGallery

Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

Not in my 80s. Don't make me older than I am.

Did you watch the entire hearing, as I did? I bet not. And I'm old enough to have watched more hearings for longer than you have been alive.

I didn't say this never happened before. It happens all the time. But this one was more vitriolic than most, to the point of being noteworthy. Every single Dem went batsh!t crazy. Several Rs did the same against RFKJ. That's not normal.

Go watch the entire hearing, then get back to me.

No, I work for a living.

And yes, when the person testifying is a controversial figure, the tend to turn into what you saw. This is nothing new and you should know this.

And it should tell you something that even some R's aren't happy with RFK jr.

And sure enough, I watched the entire thing, and you didn't watch it, but you think you know better than I do how it went. Typical of you.

(09-05-2025 09:48 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:What was supposed to be a serious Senate Finance Committee hearing on Thursday spiraled into political theater when Sen. Ben Ray Luján (D-NM), a live-action role player (LARPer) of a U.S. senator, repeatedly badgered Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., at one point holding up a novelty starfish pin and declaring the secretary “unworthy” of it.

Luján opened his questioning by accusing Kennedy of ignoring expert advice, citing the resignation letter of Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, a former CDC director. When Kennedy answered that he was regularly briefed, naming Dr. William Thompson, Luján dismissed the reply and pressed for more, berating the secretary as evasive, while unhinged, claiming Kennedy couldn’t understand Luján’s “New Mexico accent.”

The senator then fixated on a contractor, David Geyer, claiming he was secretly conducting a government autism study despite Kennedy’s clear denial. Kennedy explained that Geyer was a contractor with limited access to federal data, but Luján insisted otherwise, throwing accusations and dredging up unrelated past legal disputes. “Do you know who works for you, Mr. Kennedy?” Luján peformatively sneered before repeatedly interrupting Kennedy’s attempts to give him an answer.

The exchange reached peak absurdity when Luján waved a starfish pin he said had been given to him at a town hall in Las Cruces. In a dramatic scolding, he told Kennedy: “I was going to give it to you today, but after your questioning today, I don’t think you deserve it.” Luján went on to lecture Kennedy with a children’s parable about tossing stranded starfish back into the ocean, before concluding, “I’m sorry that you’re not worthy of this nice little pin … today was a failure for you, man.”

Kennedy, visibly frustrated after being repeatedly cut off, accused Luján of “showboating” for the cameras. The back-and-forth left the New Mexico Democrat looking more interested in theatrics than substance, with his condescending tone and props drawing raised eyebrows even from colleagues.

Instead of pressing for answers, Luján’s tirade devolved into what critics described as a bizarre stunt that trivialized a serious discussion on health policy. His “starfish speech” capped off an afternoon where Kennedy was often interrupted and prevented from responding fully to questions.

For many watching, the moment cemented Luján’s reputation for turning hearings into spectacles. What should have been an exchange about facts and policy instead ended with a senator making himself the headline.

Link

(09-05-2025 10:36 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

Not in my 80s. Don't make me older than I am.

Did you watch the entire hearing, as I did? I bet not. And I'm old enough to have watched more hearings for longer than you have been alive.

I didn't say this never happened before. It happens all the time. But this one was more vitriolic than most, to the point of being noteworthy. Every single Dem went batsh!t crazy. Several Rs did the same against RFKJ. That's not normal.

Go watch the entire hearing, then get back to me.

No, I work for a living.

And yes, when the person testifying is a controversial figure, the tend to turn into what you saw. This is nothing new and you should know this.

And it should tell you something that even some R's aren't happy with RFK jr.

And sure enough, I watched the entire thing, and you didn't watch it, but you think you know better than I do how it went. Typical of you.

NOWHERE did I make any such claim. My only point is that this happens a lot, and you already admitted that. Not sure why you're acting like this was some sort of outlier.

(09-05-2025 10:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 10:36 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

Not in my 80s. Don't make me older than I am.

Did you watch the entire hearing, as I did? I bet not. And I'm old enough to have watched more hearings for longer than you have been alive.

I didn't say this never happened before. It happens all the time. But this one was more vitriolic than most, to the point of being noteworthy. Every single Dem went batsh!t crazy. Several Rs did the same against RFKJ. That's not normal.

Go watch the entire hearing, then get back to me.

No, I work for a living.

And yes, when the person testifying is a controversial figure, the tend to turn into what you saw. This is nothing new and you should know this.

And it should tell you something that even some R's aren't happy with RFK jr.

And sure enough, I watched the entire thing, and you didn't watch it, but you think you know better than I do how it went. Typical of you.

NOWHERE did I make any such claim. My only point is that this happens a lot, and you already admitted that. Not sure why you're acting like this was some sort of outlier.

Contention happens in every hearing, that's what I agreed to, but not to this level.

It's an outlier in the fact that EVERYBODY on the Dem side, plus a few on the R side, got into a screaming match with the witness. That is NOT typical, and if you had watched it, you would understand it. Neither side usually gets into it screaming at their own witness, not to mention 100% of the opposition at top lung.

I'm out. Blather on.

(09-04-2025 07:51 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 07:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 05:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 04:17 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you're a never trumper ... therefore, I'll take that for it's 'grain' o' salt...

I voted for him three times. You just looney right.

bwahahaha ... I'm a pro-choice (1st tri or 15 weeks ... just something both can live with ... pardon the pun), weed smokin', not a church goin' a-theist ...

yeah buggy, I reckon I fit the mold of ye ol' looney right...

you only voted for him b/c the other was nolo contendere, eh?!

how's the libertarian in ya likin' those tariffs, eh?

I'm not a RINO like a lot of you MAGA people and the Libertarians. I'm a real Republican, also relatively pro life, church going, drug avoiding. There are plenty of weed smoking atheists on the looney right.

But I can criticize Republican cabinet members when they are wrong. Of course, RFK is not a Republican.

MAGA = RINO ... that's news to nuts ... thanks for clarifying...

The people who most use RINO are just that. They only support Republicans when it follows exactly what they want. Otherwise they sit at home and pout or vote for a 3rd party and help the Democrats win. The very definition of a "Republican in Name Only."

(09-05-2025 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  was in the field listening on the headphones ... didn't the first question asked get a "the answer is no" from the questioner when RFK Jr. opened his mouth to speak w/o getting out a syllable other than his usual gurgle before the word?!!! ... I about fell out laughing so hard ... #par4theCourseFromThePeanutGallery

Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

Not in my 80s. Don't make me older than I am.

Did you watch the entire hearing, as I did? I bet not. And I'm old enough to have watched more hearings for longer than you have been alive.

I didn't say this never happened before. It happens all the time. But this one was more vitriolic than most, to the point of being noteworthy. Every single Dem went batsh!t crazy. Several Rs did the same against RFKJ. That's not normal.

Go watch the entire hearing, then get back to me.

No, I work for a living.

And yes, when the person testifying is a controversial figure, they tend to turn into what you saw. This is nothing new and you should know this.

And it should tell you something that even some R's aren't happy with RFK jr.

Yes. It tells an intelligent person that he's over the target. We don't expect you to understand.

(09-05-2025 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:27 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 08:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-04-2025 06:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  was in the field listening on the headphones ... didn't the first question asked get a "the answer is no" from the questioner when RFK Jr. opened his mouth to speak w/o getting out a syllable other than his usual gurgle before the word?!!! ... I about fell out laughing so hard ... #par4theCourseFromThePeanutGallery

Hell, almost the entire hearing was like that from all the Dems and a few Rs. Senators would ask a question, Bobby would say 3 or 4 words, and they would interrupt.

It wasn't a hearing. It was a public display of TDS, but aimed at RFKJ this time. I think he stirs them up as much as Trump does.

Aren't you in your 80's...so why are you acting like you've never seen one of these "hearings" before? They rarely ask questions in their 5 minutes, opting for making their own speeahes. Both R and D alike.

Not in my 80s. Don't make me older than I am.

Did you watch the entire hearing, as I did? I bet not. And I'm old enough to have watched more hearings for longer than you have been alive.

I didn't say this never happened before. It happens all the time. But this one was more vitriolic than most, to the point of being noteworthy. Every single Dem went batsh!t crazy. Several Rs did the same against RFKJ. That's not normal.

Go watch the entire hearing, then get back to me.

No, I work for a living.

And yes, when the person testifying is a controversial figure, they tend to turn into what you saw. This is nothing new and you should know this.

And it should tell you something that even some R's aren't happy with RFK jr.

Big pharma Rs and Tommie Bois on the same page. Against a Democrat at that. You just couldn’t make this up.

New Mexico elected a retard

(09-05-2025 12:35 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Chuck Todd doesn't know anything. Just trying to become relevant again.

Agree, Todd is a moron.

RFK jr. isn't likely to go anywhere. He's a useful distraction from Epstein.

(09-05-2025 01:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Agree, Todd is a moron.

RFK jr. isn't likely to go anywhere. He's a useful distraction from Epstein.

Right! Beacuse we all know that Dems had Trump in those Epstein files but chose not to leak any of it while Biden was in office, due to the fact they are honorable and wouldn't break any laws, even if it meant getting Trump.

All I can say is that DJT and all of us Trumpers are glad that Dems are so honorable and didn't release the files when they had the chance. Crisis averted!