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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-16-2025 02:39 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (06-16-2025 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: BREAKING: People are now saying shooter was a trump voter and religious anti-abortion nutjob who consumed content from Infowars.
They've seen nothing in the press coverage or writings to indicate that he shot the democrats due to their votes supporting Republicans in the Minnesota state legislature. In fact, the democrat who survived the attack didn't even vote with the Republicans as initially thought.
I’m sure all of the people in the thread who were calling the assassin a far left AOC acolyte will admit their mistake and apologize for distributing fake news propaganda
I must have missed all of your posts in ALL of the many threads where we've discussed left-wing lunatics that have done terrible things.
Can you say, hypocritical moron?
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-16-2025 02:39 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (06-16-2025 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: BREAKING: People are now saying shooter was a trump voter and religious anti-abortion nutjob who consumed content from Infowars.
They've seen nothing in the press coverage or writings to indicate that he shot the democrats due to their votes supporting Republicans in the Minnesota state legislature. In fact, the democrat who survived the attack didn't even vote with the Republicans as initially thought.
I’m sure all of the people in the thread who were calling the assassin a far left AOC acolyte will admit their mistake and apologize for distributing fake news propaganda
Not holding my breath.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-16-2025 03:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (06-16-2025 02:39 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (06-16-2025 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: BREAKING: People are now saying shooter was a trump voter and religious anti-abortion nutjob who consumed content from Infowars.
They've seen nothing in the press coverage or writings to indicate that he shot the democrats due to their votes supporting Republicans in the Minnesota state legislature. In fact, the democrat who survived the attack didn't even vote with the Republicans as initially thought.
I’m sure all of the people in the thread who were calling the assassin a far left AOC acolyte will admit their mistake and apologize for distributing fake news propaganda
Not holding my breath.
Still looking for your posts in the threads dealing with whacked out trannies committing violent crimes. Guess I'll keep waiting and holding my breath.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
“ NEW YORK (AP) — The man accused of assassinating the top Democrat in the Minnesota House held deeply religious and politically conservative views, telling a congregation in Africa two years ago that the U.S. was in a “bad place” where most churches didn’t oppose abortion.
Vance Luther Boelter, 57, was captured late Sunday following a two-day search authorities described as the largest in the state’s history. Boelter is accused of impersonating a police officer and gunning down former House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home outside Minneapolis. Democratic Gov. Tim Walz described the shooting as “a politically motivated assassination.”
Sen. John Hoffman, also a Democrat, and his wife, Yvette, were shot earlier by the same gunman at their home nearby but survived.
Friends and former colleagues interviewed by AP described Boelter as a devout Christian who attended an evangelical church and went to campaign rallies for President Donald Trump. Records show Boelter registered to vote as a Republican while living in Oklahoma in 2004 before moving to Minnesota where voters don’t list party affiliation.”
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-sho...e36efeb065
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
I ask again, and would say the same thing if the sides were reversed. Why does it matter?
He was a psycho who somehow justified in his mind and decided to act on his worst thoughts, and took innocent lives.
Nobody in his right mind thinks all the crazies are on one side of the political spectrum.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 07:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: I ask again, and would say the same thing if the sides were reversed. Why does it matter?
He was a psycho who somehow justified in his mind and decided to act on his worst thoughts, and took innocent lives.
Nobody in his right mind thinks all the crazies are on one side of the political spectrum.
It's all they have.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 07:45 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: (06-17-2025 07:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: I ask again, and would say the same thing if the sides were reversed. Why does it matter?
He was a psycho who somehow justified in his mind and decided to act on his worst thoughts, and took innocent lives.
Nobody in his right mind thinks all the crazies are on one side of the political spectrum.
It's all they have.
And it's an old play that we should be used to seeing by now as well.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 07:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: I ask again, and would say the same thing if the sides were reversed. Why does it matter?
He was a psycho who somehow justified in his mind and decided to act on his worst thoughts, and took innocent lives.
Nobody in his right mind thinks all the crazies are on one side of the political spectrum.
You guys made this entire thread about this guy being a democrat, then get all self righteous when the truth gets dropped in.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 07:36 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: “ NEW YORK (AP) — The man accused of assassinating the top Democrat in the Minnesota House held deeply religious and politically conservative views, telling a congregation in Africa two years ago that the U.S. was in a “bad place” where most churches didn’t oppose abortion.
Vance Luther Boelter, 57, was captured late Sunday following a two-day search authorities described as the largest in the state’s history. Boelter is accused of impersonating a police officer and gunning down former House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home outside Minneapolis. Democratic Gov. Tim Walz described the shooting as “a politically motivated assassination.”
Sen. John Hoffman, also a Democrat, and his wife, Yvette, were shot earlier by the same gunman at their home nearby but survived.
Friends and former colleagues interviewed by AP described Boelter as a devout Christian who attended an evangelical church and went to campaign rallies for President Donald Trump. Records show Boelter registered to vote as a Republican while living in Oklahoma in 2004 before moving to Minnesota where voters don’t list party affiliation.”
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-sho...e36efeb065
The very fact that he murdered people is proof he is not a "devout Christian". He may have been pretending to be one, but his actions proved without a doubt that he was not.
That's like saying he was a devote Muslim who only ate pork and worshiped Jesus as God.
These things are totally incompatible.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 08:03 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: (06-17-2025 07:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: I ask again, and would say the same thing if the sides were reversed. Why does it matter?
He was a psycho who somehow justified in his mind and decided to act on his worst thoughts, and took innocent lives.
Nobody in his right mind thinks all the crazies are on one side of the political spectrum.
You guys made this entire thread about this guy being a democrat, then get all self righteous when the truth gets dropped in.
And authorities in the area found NO KINGS DAY flyers in his car so...
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 08:04 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (06-17-2025 07:36 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote: “ NEW YORK (AP) — The man accused of assassinating the top Democrat in the Minnesota House held deeply religious and politically conservative views, telling a congregation in Africa two years ago that the U.S. was in a “bad place” where most churches didn’t oppose abortion.
Vance Luther Boelter, 57, was captured late Sunday following a two-day search authorities described as the largest in the state’s history. Boelter is accused of impersonating a police officer and gunning down former House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, in their home outside Minneapolis. Democratic Gov. Tim Walz described the shooting as “a politically motivated assassination.”
Sen. John Hoffman, also a Democrat, and his wife, Yvette, were shot earlier by the same gunman at their home nearby but survived.
Friends and former colleagues interviewed by AP described Boelter as a devout Christian who attended an evangelical church and went to campaign rallies for President Donald Trump. Records show Boelter registered to vote as a Republican while living in Oklahoma in 2004 before moving to Minnesota where voters don’t list party affiliation.”
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-sho...e36efeb065
The very fact that he murdered people is proof he is not a "devout Christian". He may have been pretending to be one, but his actions proved without a doubt that he was not.
That's like saying he was a devote Muslim who only ate pork and worshiped Jesus as God.
These things are totally incompatible.
Not only that, but it's a story from the AP so is it actually genuine or just made up bunk?
Question everything, folks.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
The fake outrage is quite smelly. Never let a tragedy go that fits your political goals. Or allows you to criticize the religious Christians.
Saying it here and now, when the roles are reversed there will be deafening silence from these morons. If it happens to be Trump, they will celebrate.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
If the roles were reversed, I'd expect the fine conservative posters of the spin room to proclaim that "this particular shooter who happens to espouse leftist ideologies does not represent the left as a whole".
But... that never goes that way.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
What difference does it make what political party he belongs to, if any? He murdered people. Wtf is wrong with some of you?
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-14-2025 10:47 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (06-14-2025 10:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (06-14-2025 09:56 AM)TripleA Wrote: ...Called trump Hitler and a Nazi, said he was an existential threat to democracy, said they should push back harder, blah blah blah...
I suppose you have a source for this...in your mind... since he's never said any such thing about trump. 
from google AI:
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has drawn criticism for comparing federal immigration agents implementing President Donald Trump's immigration policies to the
Gestapo, the Nazi-era secret police force. Walz made these remarks during a commencement speech at the University of Minnesota Law School on May 17, 2025.
Key points:
Walz's statement: He said, "Donald Trump's modern-day Gestapo is scooping folks up off the streets".
Context: Walz was referencing the Trump administration's immigration crackdown and controversial deportations.
Reactions:
Criticism: The Department of Homeland Security and others criticized Walz's comments as "dangerous" and "sickening". They argued that it's wrong to compare ICE agents to the Nazi secret police.
Trump administration: Rebuked Walz for the comparison.
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: The Gestapo is a symbol of authoritarian policing, according to the museum.
In summary, Walz compared ICE agents to the Gestapo to criticize Trump's immigration policies, which prompted backlash and condemnation from various sources
   
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/walz-calls-trump-a-tyrant/
"Every single day, the president of the United States finds new ways to trample rights and undermine the rule of law."
"This is what the crumbling of rule of law looks like in real time. And it's exactly what the founders of this nation feared: A tyrant, abusing power to persecute scapegoats and enemies,"
https://www.startribune.com/gov-tim-walz.../601357697
“Donald Trump’s modern-day Gestapo is scooping folks up off the streets. They’re in unmarked vans wearing masks” and shipping people off to “foreign torture dungeons,” Walz said, referring to the deportations being carried out by federal immigration officers.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-16-2025 02:39 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (06-16-2025 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: BREAKING: People are now saying shooter was a trump voter and religious anti-abortion nutjob who consumed content from Infowars.
They've seen nothing in the press coverage or writings to indicate that he shot the democrats due to their votes supporting Republicans in the Minnesota state legislature. In fact, the democrat who survived the attack didn't even vote with the Republicans as initially thought.
I’m sure all of the people in the thread who were calling the assassin a far left AOC acolyte will admit their mistake and apologize for distributing fake news propaganda
Receipts?
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 08:42 AM)b2b Wrote: (06-16-2025 02:39 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: (06-16-2025 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: BREAKING: People are now saying shooter was a trump voter and religious anti-abortion nutjob who consumed content from Infowars.
They've seen nothing in the press coverage or writings to indicate that he shot the democrats due to their votes supporting Republicans in the Minnesota state legislature. In fact, the democrat who survived the attack didn't even vote with the Republicans as initially thought.
I’m sure all of the people in the thread who were calling the assassin a far left AOC acolyte will admit their mistake and apologize for distributing fake news propaganda
Receipts?
Yes, I'd like to see those as well. In fact, I volunteer to be first up.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 07:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: I ask again, and would say the same thing if the sides were reversed. Why does it matter?
He was a psycho who somehow justified in his mind and decided to act on his worst thoughts, and took innocent lives.
Nobody in his right mind thinks all the crazies are on one side of the political spectrum.
This is really it. Everyone is so quick to jump on what "side" these guys are on. Who f'n cares? They are psychopaths who thing this kind of action is going to actually do something or change something. Quit trying to win political points with ideology. Sick people are sick, that's it.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
The FBI needs to release the manifesto.
Until I read other facts I will assume this guy is prog filth.
He was appointed to a position by Tim “chinaman” Walz and he had “No Kings” flyers in his car.
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RE: 2 MN Democrats who broke with party shot in their home
(06-17-2025 08:46 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote: (06-17-2025 07:43 AM)TripleA Wrote: I ask again, and would say the same thing if the sides were reversed. Why does it matter?
He was a psycho who somehow justified in his mind and decided to act on his worst thoughts, and took innocent lives.
Nobody in his right mind thinks all the crazies are on one side of the political spectrum.
This is really it. Everyone is so quick to jump on what "side" these guys are on. Who f'n cares? They are psychopaths who thing this kind of action is going to actually do something or change something. Quit trying to win political points with ideology. Sick people are sick, that's it.
Of course. But you also have to remember there are people (on both sides, really) who will cling onto anything to point out someone was one type of voter or another. To me, the guy's all over the place. Yes, he does have some views I happen to have, but I still can't help but point out that he was found to have a lot of NO KINGS DAY flyers in his SUV. Nobody -- and I mean nobody -- has been able to explain the connection between anti-abortions views and possessing NO KINGS DAY flyers in his vehicle, at least not to my satisfaction.
But what really grinds my gears is the fact that people keep pointing out he was a preacher. Okay. So? A pastor at the church I grew up attending with my family once said that there are those in his profession that profess to be Christians but actually aren't. It's just a way for them to make money, and pastors, at least according to him, aren't supposed to be rich. (I tend to believe this due to preachers like Joel Osteen and his ilk preaching the so-called "prosperity gospel" to their respective congregations and making money off of them.) Now I won't speak on whether or not Boetler is saved. I don't know his spiritual life. But until his manifesto is released, I will continue to believe this guy snapped at some point and planned to carry out some grandiose scheme to somehow "change the world" in one way or another.
And I really shouldn't have to point this out, but no, most Christians, myself included, don't believe in killing people, at least not in cold blood. We believe in justice, particularly God's justice, which He will carry out in His time, not ours. So equating us to death cults like Hamas, al-Qaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and especially the leadership of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
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