(12-11-2024 01:03 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 12:43 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 12:20 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 11:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  The likely motive for the shooter is coming out now. Not sure how (water skiing?), but he suffered a traumatic back injury in May (?) of 2023, and had a number of screws placed in his spine.

Apparently, the procedure or the follow-up care didn't go well, or the insurance didn't pay for everything, and at some point, Mangione turned into a vigilante for justice against the man, thus justifying his actions.

He came from a wealthy family and he was supposedly a smart guy with a Master's in Engineering. You mean to tell me he didn't have good insurance or the means to pay for his medical bills?

Define good insurance.... the most well-known insurance companies reject perfectly valid claims all the time.

i think the guy is on some drug and having psychotic delusions. He went from normal to batshite crazy at mach 10. He probably wont do a day in jail.

It's all part of his act Shere. He was reported as being completely docile and compliant until there are cameras present and only then does he go totally off the rails. It will be his defense strategy most likely. Just a wealthy, narcissistic prick, whose Daddy made his money off of health care providers, who was radicalized at an Ivy, sees himself as a celebrity, and thinks he's smart enough to get away with murder by pretending to be crazy for the audience every time a camera is on him. It took the cops about a day to figure this out. It is also how he riles up his cult followers on social media. .

Hopefully some good comes out of this.

Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Thank Obama. Who do you think Obamacare. It damn sure wasn't anybody in government.

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

then why make 'em go to school for the best years of their life...

I have docs in the poc and one in the fam with 3 more almost ready to hit the field...

it would blow ewer pea brained mind the stupid shite they have to study just to make the midspan of that race ... shoulda heard the vax discussion I had with me neice at the Christmas gather last year ... many a silent from table (with pats on the back later)

it was only a 150 years ago we called 'em "medicine man"...

btw ... name the last 'home run vaccine' that made a difference ... the entire fk'n system is fk'd the fk up...

as a simple aside, ewe, are meaningless and w/o a clue why shite is what she is today...

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Why only stop with healthcare then?

(12-11-2024 02:43 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Why only stop with healthcare then?

This whole line of thinking is antithetical to a free Capitalist society, but it is the entry drug into a culture of socialistic thinking and a dictatorial society which is about compliance instead of freedom of choice.

The solution is to walk the anti-trust laws back to 1940 levels (where they were prior to FDR suspending them in order to better prosecute WWII). With Roosevelt dying, Truman's ascension, and Korea breaking into a conflict which the West felt must be contained (colonial interests from our European allies in SE Asia essentially demanded it) Truman let the exemptions stand that were given to fight the Axis powers in WWII. Then Communism became the omnipresent threat that was used to excuse not reigning in their power. If this nation was under the anti-trust laws of 1940 we would have more competition in many fields of industry, including healthcare and prices would be naturally more reasonable because of that competition.

The problem isn't capitalism, the problem is government protections granted to power corporations. We don't have to sell our freedom out to deal with this. We just have to get the PAC money out of the pockets of politicians because almost all of it comes from defense industries, Big Pharma (including healthcare) and High Tech.

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

I don’t disagree. However, that doesn’t justify killing someone.

(12-11-2024 03:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:43 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Why only stop with healthcare then?

This whole line of thinking is antithetical to a free Capitalist society, but it is the entry drug into a culture of socialistic thinking and a dictatorial society which is about compliance instead of freedom of choice.

The solution is to walk the anti-trust laws back to 1940 levels (where they were prior to FDR suspending them in order to better prosecute WWII). With Roosevelt dying, Truman's ascension, and Korea breaking into a conflict which the West felt must be contained (colonial interests from our European allies in SE Asia essentially demanded it) Truman let the exemptions stand that were given to fight the Axis powers in WWII. Then Communism became the omnipresent threat that was used to excuse not reigning in their power. If this nation was under the anti-trust laws of 1940 we would have more competition in many fields of industry, including healthcare and prices would be naturally more reasonable because of that competition.

The problem isn't capitalism, the problem is government protections granted to power corporations. We don't have to sell our freedom out to deal with this. We just have to get the PAC money out of the pockets of politicians because almost all of it comes from defense industries, Big Pharma (including healthcare) and High Tech.

in the vein of 'muh and the sincerest'...

(12-11-2024 03:24 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

... ya have to be kidding me ... that's what 'they' call "counsel" ... oy vey...

Report: Police have now matched the gun found on Mangione in PA with the 3 shell casings left at the scene of the murder.

(12-11-2024 03:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Report: Police have now matched the gun found on Mangione in PA with the 3 shell casings left at the scene of the murder.

So much for "presumed innocent".

(12-11-2024 04:27 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 03:49 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Report: Police have now matched the gun found on Mangione in PA with the 3 shell casings left at the scene of the murder.

So much for "presumed innocent".

once Talbot unleashed the 'lens', it was a given 'innocent until proven guilty' was an oxymoron ... oopsie ... it was when it was penned...

this is the one time when science got shite right as it progressed in 'trial v. error'....

the irony tomorrow will be the inability to discern 'live or memorex'...

shite's coming whether ya like it or not...

the only question that remains is how you train the masses and hold the line developing best method process...

unfortunately, tech is exponential as the epidermis continues to obey the laws o' gravity...

(12-11-2024 03:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:43 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Why only stop with healthcare then?

This whole line of thinking is antithetical to a free Capitalist society, but it is the entry drug into a culture of socialistic thinking and a dictatorial society which is about compliance instead of freedom of choice.

The solution is to walk the anti-trust laws back to 1940 levels (where they were prior to FDR suspending them in order to better prosecute WWII). With Roosevelt dying, Truman's ascension, and Korea breaking into a conflict which the West felt must be contained (colonial interests from our European allies in SE Asia essentially demanded it) Truman let the exemptions stand that were given to fight the Axis powers in WWII. Then Communism became the omnipresent threat that was used to excuse not reigning in their power. If this nation was under the anti-trust laws of 1940 we would have more competition in many fields of industry, including healthcare and prices would be naturally more reasonable because of that competition.

The problem isn't capitalism, the problem is government protections granted to power corporations. We don't have to sell our freedom out to deal with this. We just have to get the PAC money out of the pockets of politicians because almost all of it comes from defense industries, Big Pharma (including healthcare) and High Tech.

You have more patience than me. Some are beyond redemption. Pearls before swine

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Not as sick as people who don’t condemn murdering another human being. Not even close. Good Lord.

Progressives just can't keep outing themselves as mentally defective.

It's the Party of Hate.

Creeps.

(12-11-2024 05:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:10 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Denying health care for corporate profits and outlandish executive pay is indeed sick.

Not as sick as people who don’t condemn murdering another human being. Not even close. Good Lord.

Did those denied claims not lead to severe pain death for some? Last time I was part of a company that had United healthcare we got to got to watch a coworker, with a terminal diagnosis, live his last few months in agonizing pain because UHC denied the medication. Health care should not be for profit.

I am not saying the killing was right but for all those trying to call out libs on this one I bet you did not feel the same way about George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse