(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really take much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Losers and suckers.

(08-28-2024 02:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Losers and suckers.

"I don't get it. What was in it for them?"

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

Like how? Bat Signals? What would they say?


Hey Mr. President, my child was slaughtered because of your horrible decision-making. Would you mind coming to the ceremony?

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Right. Then you and the rest of the TDS slappies could ***** about how he turned down the families request to be there. He was invited to be there. You have someone who performs these ceremonies regularly who said it was respectful but you cant believe that as it goes against your pet narratives and the hearsay you continue to post as fact.

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

Like how? Bat Signals? What would they say?

Hey Mr. President, my child was slaughtered because of your horrible decision-making. Would you mind coming to the ceremony?

Huh? So you admit they likely didn't ask them but then complain that they didn't crash the ceremony? This was not some government function. It was a private ceremony requested by the families.

And no, they were killed by a bomber. Not some direct decision made by anyone.

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Right. Then you and the rest of the TDS slappies could ***** about how he turned down the families request to be there. He was invited to be there. You have someone who performs these ceremonies regularly who said it was respectful but you cant believe that as it goes against your pet narratives and the hearsay you continue to post as fact.

Stop engaging in logical fallacy! AGAIN, the wreath ceremony was not really the issue, and nowhere did I say it was not a respectful ceremony. Although trump is shamefully making it a disgraceful one now with campaign ads.

And if there was a photo somewhere of Harris and/or Walz smiling at the gravesite of a dead soldier, YOU GUYS WOULD BE LOSING YOUR COLLECTIVE ****!!!

(08-28-2024 02:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Losers and suckers.

You two are absolutely irredeemable.

Who showed up, and who didn't?

And go to Filipowski's X home page to see a RINO TDS victim in action.

(08-28-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

Like how? Bat Signals? What would they say?

Hey Mr. President, my child was slaughtered because of your horrible decision-making. Would you mind coming to the ceremony?

Huh? So you admit they likely didn't ask them but then complain that they didn't crash the ceremony? This was not some government function. It was a private ceremony requested by the families.

And no, they were killed by a bomber. Not some direct decision made by anyone.

They were killed by the exceptional incompetence of Biden-Harris, Blinken, Lloyd Austin etc.

(08-28-2024 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Right. Then you and the rest of the TDS slappies could ***** about how he turned down the families request to be there. He was invited to be there. You have someone who performs these ceremonies regularly who said it was respectful but you cant believe that as it goes against your pet narratives and the hearsay you continue to post as fact.

And if there was a photo somewhere of Harris and/or Walz smiling at the gravesite of a dead soldier, YOU GUYS WOULD BE LOSING YOUR COLLECTIVE ****!!!

Like you lose your $hit about every single thing Trump does or doesn't do?

(08-28-2024 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Right. Then you and the rest of the TDS slappies could ***** about how he turned down the families request to be there. He was invited to be there. You have someone who performs these ceremonies regularly who said it was respectful but you cant believe that as it goes against your pet narratives and the hearsay you continue to post as fact.

Stop engaging in logical fallacy! AGAIN, the wreath ceremony was not really the issue, and nowhere did I say it was not a respectful ceremony. Although trump is shamefully making it a disgraceful one now with campaign ads.

And if there was a photo somewhere of Harris and/or Walz smiling at the gravesite of a dead soldier, YOU GUYS WOULD BE LOSING YOUR COLLECTIVE ****!!!

We had one of Joe Biden checking his damn watch yet you poo poo that blatant display of disrespect. And yes every Trump hater out there would have gone after him hard had he not showed up. You know it, I know it, and anyone else with a ounce of common sense knows it.

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Losers and suckers.

"I don't get it. What was in it for them?"

all this for a flag?

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really take much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

Hunh.

If they weren't invited, why not? Standing (reclining) POTUS and current coup recipient, why wouldn't they be invited? They're the ones currently in office*.

(08-28-2024 03:15 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Right. Then you and the rest of the TDS slappies could ***** about how he turned down the families request to be there. He was invited to be there. You have someone who performs these ceremonies regularly who said it was respectful but you cant believe that as it goes against your pet narratives and the hearsay you continue to post as fact.

Stop engaging in logical fallacy! AGAIN, the wreath ceremony was not really the issue, and nowhere did I say it was not a respectful ceremony. Although trump is shamefully making it a disgraceful one now with campaign ads.

And if there was a photo somewhere of Harris and/or Walz smiling at the gravesite of a dead soldier, YOU GUYS WOULD BE LOSING YOUR COLLECTIVE ****!!!

We had one of Joe Biden checking his damn watch yet you poo poo that blatant display of disrespect. And yes every Trump hater out there would have gone after him hard had he not showed up. You know it, I know it, and anyone else with a ounce of common sense knows it.

Some might note the projection of future possibilities into current victimhood angst above. Lolz.

Maybe deal with actual current issues instead of made up projection angst.

And to be honest — it was absolutely not proper for Biden to glance at his watch.

Pretty ****** for a candidate for President turn any item at Arlington (or war dead) into a campaign highlight. That applies across the board.

And a nice counterpoint to losers, suckers, and Mrs Adelson or Mr Rogers being anywhere near equivalent to Schucart in Mogadishu that he has wandered into in the past.

(08-28-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

Like how? Bat Signals? What would they say?

Hey Mr. President, my child was slaughtered because of your horrible decision-making. Would you mind coming to the ceremony?

Huh? So you admit they likely didn't ask them but then complain that they didn't crash the ceremony? This was not some government function. It was a private ceremony requested by the families.

And no, they were killed by a bomber. Not some direct decision made by anyone.

Bullschit. Listen to better people.

they knew about the plot/plan, they id'ed the loser, they knew what he was wearing, they had snipers in place, they id'd the loser and had aim.

They couldn't get the OK from whomever needed to OK it.

Who puts in such rules of engagement in a war torn completely chaotic scene? Who moved the plan from Bagram to Kabul? Aunt Millie, Awol Austin and whoever the 3rd guy was that testified before Congress all said "It wadn't me!". So, who was it then? Some Colonel Klink?
I'm no military expert for sure, but for those kinds of decisions Ima guessing NO.

Incidentally, 3 long years since this needless disaster who's been fired for this? Brought to a court martial?

Did anyone lose their rank and job? Other than the one brave guy who was threatened after becoming a whistle blower? Strange, that.

(08-28-2024 03:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 03:15 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Were they invited? And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

Right. Then you and the rest of the TDS slappies could ***** about how he turned down the families request to be there. He was invited to be there. You have someone who performs these ceremonies regularly who said it was respectful but you cant believe that as it goes against your pet narratives and the hearsay you continue to post as fact.

Stop engaging in logical fallacy! AGAIN, the wreath ceremony was not really the issue, and nowhere did I say it was not a respectful ceremony. Although trump is shamefully making it a disgraceful one now with campaign ads.

And if there was a photo somewhere of Harris and/or Walz smiling at the gravesite of a dead soldier, YOU GUYS WOULD BE LOSING YOUR COLLECTIVE ****!!!

We had one of Joe Biden checking his damn watch yet you poo poo that blatant display of disrespect. And yes every Trump hater out there would have gone after him hard had he not showed up. You know it, I know it, and anyone else with a ounce of common sense knows it.

Some might note the projection of future possibilities into current victimhood angst above. Lolz.

Maybe deal with actual current issues instead of made up projection angst.

And to be honest — it was absolutely not proper for Biden to glance at his watch.

Pretty ****** for a candidate for President turn any item at Arlington (or war dead) into a campaign highlight. That applies across the board.

And a nice counterpoint to losers, suckers, and Mrs Adelson or Mr Rogers being anywhere near equivalent to Schucart in Mogadishu that he has wandered into in the past.

The families evidently invited Trump. They evidently didn't invite Biden. To me that speaks volumes. If it doesn't to you IDGAF.
You continue to use that quote as fact which it is not.
No idea what point you are trying to make with that last sentence.

(08-28-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Disgraceful, shameful, etc.

Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

Like how? Bat Signals? What would they say?

Hey Mr. President, my child was slaughtered because of your horrible decision-making. Would you mind coming to the ceremony?

Huh? So you admit they likely didn't ask them but then complain that they didn't crash the ceremony?

They were told the date THREE TIMES by Arlington. Both Biden* and Harris. But they dont have time for this.

Walz was told once, but it would have been the closest thing to combat he's been to, so he passed as well. He probably spent the time walking his dog scout and his other dog scout.

JD sums it up nicely

(08-28-2024 02:39 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  Like I said above Tom, all this could’ve been preventative. The president or vice president could’ve bothered to attend the ceremony.

It was only right that the present attend the ceremony of these kids that were slaughtered

Were they invited? This was a private event requested by the Gold Star Families I believe. And even if they were, no, they should not have attended. Only a MAGA scum would use Arlington to score political points. That's right up donold's alley.

But again, I don't really much issue with him participating in the wreath ceremony. The **** they likely pulled in Section 60 should be off limits. If trump cared about veterans who died and the military, he would have already known to do no such thing there.

Like how? Bat Signals? What would they say?

Hey Mr. President, my child was slaughtered because of your horrible decision-making. Would you mind coming to the ceremony?

Huh? So you admit they likely didn't ask them but then complain that they didn't crash the ceremony? This was not some government function. It was a private ceremony requested by the families.

And no, they were killed by a bomber. Not some direct decision made by anyone.

They were killed by the exceptional incompetence of Biden-Harris, Blinken, Lloyd Austin etc.

Mrs. Milley is guilty as well.

(08-28-2024 03:53 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 03:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 03:15 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:34 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-28-2024 02:28 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Right. Then you and the rest of the TDS slappies could ***** about how he turned down the families request to be there. He was invited to be there. You have someone who performs these ceremonies regularly who said it was respectful but you cant believe that as it goes against your pet narratives and the hearsay you continue to post as fact.

Stop engaging in logical fallacy! AGAIN, the wreath ceremony was not really the issue, and nowhere did I say it was not a respectful ceremony. Although trump is shamefully making it a disgraceful one now with campaign ads.

And if there was a photo somewhere of Harris and/or Walz smiling at the gravesite of a dead soldier, YOU GUYS WOULD BE LOSING YOUR COLLECTIVE ****!!!

We had one of Joe Biden checking his damn watch yet you poo poo that blatant display of disrespect. And yes every Trump hater out there would have gone after him hard had he not showed up. You know it, I know it, and anyone else with a ounce of common sense knows it.

Some might note the projection of future possibilities into current victimhood angst above. Lolz.

Maybe deal with actual current issues instead of made up projection angst.

And to be honest — it was absolutely not proper for Biden to glance at his watch.

Pretty ****** for a candidate for President turn any item at Arlington (or war dead) into a campaign highlight. That applies across the board.

And a nice counterpoint to losers, suckers, and Mrs Adelson or Mr Rogers being anywhere near equivalent to Schucart in Mogadishu that he has wandered into in the past.

The families evidently invited Trump. They evidently didn't invite Biden. To me that speaks volumes. If it doesn't to you IDGAF.
You continue to use that quote as fact which it is not.
No idea what point you are trying to make with that last sentence.

I dont have an issue in the slightest about the families inviting Trump, and I fully understand why they did not do so for Biden. I too actually think that Biden screwed over the withdrawal.

I find it fairly sickening for Trump to use it fully for a campaign spot. And I would for any candidate. The main issue is to honor those who gave their life -- not to self-promote on it.

And I am not surprised that Trump did so -- treat the families as losers and suckers to grandstand the war dead for his campaign. Fairly apt given the history.

On the last sentence, maybe google "Trump Adelson medal comments". Maybe google "Shugart Mogadishu" to round it out.

If I didnt have a clue what was being alluded to -- I probably would have tried to look it up first -- before complaining. You be you.