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Liberals are stupid people
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(08-13-2024 11:05 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Now I know why b0nds and I rarely agree. The only one of his 5 I care about is #1, and we both know it's not happening, b/c those are the peeps in charge, either party.

Beyond that, my top 5, in no particular order, are:

1. Policies that boost the economy in a sustainable manner.
2. A closed border and deportation of practically everyone who came here illegally. Go back home and come back in through a real vetting system.
3. Significant reduction in crime through support of police, not defunding them.
4. Significant reduction in the federal government, similar to what Argentina is now doing, only more.
5. End of weaponization of the justice system against political opponents.

Bottom line, just stay out of our business and leave us alone, and let capitalism reign.

You don't support strong anti-trust enforcement? You simp for monopolies? Obviously I get unions and universal programs are not getting any support on this board, but really thought that one wasn't that controversial.
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(08-13-2024 11:19 AM)banker Wrote:  More simple question. How can you listen to her speak and think “this is who needs to represent my country at the highest level”?

She has accomplished little to nothing in her life except failing up the political ladder. At least Trump has built a lot of buildings in a bunch of places which, if you have ever dealt with that process, is not easy. He knows how to negotiate, which frankly is the most important skill for a president.

The cognitive dissonance is working overtime with this one. 03-yawn

trump couldn't build a lego model of baby Yoga.
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Trump has built countless businesses employing countless people


Kamala sucked some dick and left the border wide open.
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(08-13-2024 11:30 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Trump has built countless businesses employing countless people


Kamala sucked some dick and left the border wide open.

Suckef it for a government job even.

Sad. Bigly.
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(08-13-2024 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 11:19 AM)banker Wrote:  More simple question. How can you listen to her speak and think “this is who needs to represent my country at the highest level”?

She has accomplished little to nothing in her life except failing up the political ladder. At least Trump has built a lot of buildings in a bunch of places which, if you have ever dealt with that process, is not easy. He knows how to negotiate, which frankly is the most important skill for a president.

The cognitive dissonance is working overtime with this one. 03-yawn

trump couldn't build a lego model of baby Yoga.

You are one weird groomer. What an oddball thing to say for a short pudgy middle aged fascist
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(08-13-2024 11:35 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 11:30 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Trump has built countless businesses employing countless people


Kamala sucked some dick and left the border wide open.

Suckef it for a government job even.

Sad. Bigly.

That government job at least had a guaranteed paycheck. If you sucked a di*k to be a contractor working for Trump pretty decent chance you sucked it for nothing.
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(08-13-2024 10:58 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:52 AM)b2b Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:45 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Since we have established anything said about Harris won’t be taken seriously, what are Trump’s policies? He loves to call out the problem but very light on solutions? If he wins is it another 4 years of promising a better ACA and getting zilch?

It can be summarized by a return to common sense across the board. Why do you pretend you can't Google?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform

1. Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion
2. Carry out the largest deportation operation in american history
3. End inflation, and make america affordable again
4. Make america the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!
7. Defend our constitution, our bill of rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms
8. Prevent world war three, restore peace in europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America
9. End the weaponization of government against the american people
10. Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders
11. Rebuild our cities, including washington dc, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.
12. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world
13.Keep the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency
14. Fight for and protect social security and medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age
15. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations
16. Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children
17. Keep men out of women's sports
18. Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again
19. Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship
20. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

Yes we know he can name issues. What is his plan for doing these 20 things besides mass deportations?

Several are pretty clear at face value. Others are accomplished by reversing Biden's EO's. I'll be honest with you I don't really care how it gets done just get it done. That's literally all that matters to me. It's also how most people in the real world operate.
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(08-13-2024 10:52 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:25 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Serious question. Not being bombastic here.

What are the policies you will vote for and why do you believe Harris-Walz will properly address those policies?

I'm not "liberal" but waste of time getting into the distictions.

So if you ask me the policies I care about and will Harris/Walz address them here they are.

1. Addressing the issue of big money influence in politics: LOL no they won't address that, but neither major party will so just view that as a both suck on it issue and move on.

2. Support and encouragement of the revived labor/union movement: Highly doubt they'll be perfect here, I'm sure they'll do a whole lot I'll be critical of, but the fact that unions came out hard against Shapiro and in support of picking Walz and she picked Walz gives me some hope she'll be closer to Biden on it than the Clinton/Obama positioning on unions.

3. Continued focus on anti-trust enforcement: This one I'm concerned about. This was the biggest break from the Clinton/Obama policies from Biden. Khan with the FTC and Kanter with the DOJ have been great on this, but the large money donors are pushing crazy hard for Harris to fire both if she wins, and a lot of her advisors are people who would probably be supportive of doing that. This is the thing I'm focused on the most to hear what her plans are, if she ever actually releases any.

4. Pushing for a Universal Healthcare System: I know even Bernie wouldn't have gotten this done, but she long ago showed she was faking support for Medicare for All and I don't see anything happening here in any way from Harris/Walz. I doubt she even pushes seriously for what Biden lied and said he supported, a public option. I expect nothing here.

5. Pushing for some of the things that Manchin/Sinema got stripped out of the original Build Back Better bill like Universal Pre K, Paid Family and Medical Leave, etc. and reinstating the Child Tax Credit. This is actually the thing Harris has the most track record supporting and Walz got a lot of it done as Governor. Not convinced they will have the votes to get it done but I'm pretty convinced they'll actually put in real effort to do it and that's about as good as you can hope for.

So of my top 5 items #2 and 3 she has pretty wide ranging power to help without congressional action and I think she'll probably be decent on #2 and completely up in the air on #3. #1 and 4 no one is going to do anything about they are pipe dreams at this point. #5 I think they'll try but that takes congress and not confident they'll have the support or ability to get them done.

Democrats have abandoned #3. They are more pro- big business than the Republicans. Why? Because they get most of their donations now. Why did it take until election year to start talking about Google?
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Kamala just reported her platform:


1. Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion
2. Carry out the largest deportation operation in american history
3. End inflation, and make america affordable again
4. Make america the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!
7. Defend our constitution, our bill of rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms
8. Prevent world war three, restore peace in europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America
9. End the weaponization of government against the american people
10. Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders
11. Rebuild our cities, including washington dc, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.
12. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world
13.Keep the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency
14. Fight for and protect social security and medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age
15. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations
16. Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children
17. Keep men out of women's sports
18. Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again
19. Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship
20. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success
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(08-13-2024 11:43 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:52 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:25 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Serious question. Not being bombastic here.

What are the policies you will vote for and why do you believe Harris-Walz will properly address those policies?

I'm not "liberal" but waste of time getting into the distictions.

So if you ask me the policies I care about and will Harris/Walz address them here they are.

1. Addressing the issue of big money influence in politics: LOL no they won't address that, but neither major party will so just view that as a both suck on it issue and move on.

2. Support and encouragement of the revived labor/union movement: Highly doubt they'll be perfect here, I'm sure they'll do a whole lot I'll be critical of, but the fact that unions came out hard against Shapiro and in support of picking Walz and she picked Walz gives me some hope she'll be closer to Biden on it than the Clinton/Obama positioning on unions.

3. Continued focus on anti-trust enforcement: This one I'm concerned about. This was the biggest break from the Clinton/Obama policies from Biden. Khan with the FTC and Kanter with the DOJ have been great on this, but the large money donors are pushing crazy hard for Harris to fire both if she wins, and a lot of her advisors are people who would probably be supportive of doing that. This is the thing I'm focused on the most to hear what her plans are, if she ever actually releases any.

4. Pushing for a Universal Healthcare System: I know even Bernie wouldn't have gotten this done, but she long ago showed she was faking support for Medicare for All and I don't see anything happening here in any way from Harris/Walz. I doubt she even pushes seriously for what Biden lied and said he supported, a public option. I expect nothing here.

5. Pushing for some of the things that Manchin/Sinema got stripped out of the original Build Back Better bill like Universal Pre K, Paid Family and Medical Leave, etc. and reinstating the Child Tax Credit. This is actually the thing Harris has the most track record supporting and Walz got a lot of it done as Governor. Not convinced they will have the votes to get it done but I'm pretty convinced they'll actually put in real effort to do it and that's about as good as you can hope for.

So of my top 5 items #2 and 3 she has pretty wide ranging power to help without congressional action and I think she'll probably be decent on #2 and completely up in the air on #3. #1 and 4 no one is going to do anything about they are pipe dreams at this point. #5 I think they'll try but that takes congress and not confident they'll have the support or ability to get them done.

Democrats have abandoned #3. They are more pro- big business than the Republicans. Why? Because they get most of their donations now. Why did it take until election year to start talking about Google?

I do worry that Dems have or will abandon this, but the Biden Administration lead by the actions of Khan and Kanter absolutely have not.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...challenges

The Biden administration set a new record for merger enforcement activity, according to newly released data obtained by Bloomberg.

In an annual report to Congress set to be released this week, the US Federal Trade Commission said it brought 24 enforcement actions, while the Justice Department’s antitrust division brought 26 in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, 2022, the most recent period for which that data is public. The total number of challenges is the highest since the US began requiring pre-merger antitrust review in 1976.


This has been a massive break with Dem positioning in the past, and yes you are correct they are beholden to big business donors who hate the work Khan and Kanter have done. I absolutely do worry that Harris will cave to the will of those donors and fire both.

Vance has actually been publicly supportive of the actions taken by Khan at the FTC, so I agree there is a real shot Trump/Vance could actually be better on this issue than Harris/Walz if they get rid of Khan. One of a number of reasons I'm actually personally thrilled with the Vance pick as VP. Vance actually has ideological commitments, and sure there's plenty I think are bad but he has some economic ones that I think are objectively good.
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(08-13-2024 10:52 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:25 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Serious question. Not being bombastic here.

What are the policies you will vote for and why do you believe Harris-Walz will properly address those policies?

I'm not "liberal" but waste of time getting into the distictions.

So if you ask me the policies I care about and will Harris/Walz address them here they are.

1. Addressing the issue of big money influence in politics: LOL no they won't address that, but neither major party will so just view that as a both suck on it issue and move on.

2. Support and encouragement of the revived labor/union movement: Highly doubt they'll be perfect here, I'm sure they'll do a whole lot I'll be critical of, but the fact that unions came out hard against Shapiro and in support of picking Walz and she picked Walz gives me some hope she'll be closer to Biden on it than the Clinton/Obama positioning on unions.

3. Continued focus on anti-trust enforcement: This one I'm concerned about. This was the biggest break from the Clinton/Obama policies from Biden. Khan with the FTC and Kanter with the DOJ have been great on this, but the large money donors are pushing crazy hard for Harris to fire both if she wins, and a lot of her advisors are people who would probably be supportive of doing that. This is the thing I'm focused on the most to hear what her plans are, if she ever actually releases any.

4. Pushing for a Universal Healthcare System: I know even Bernie wouldn't have gotten this done, but she long ago showed she was faking support for Medicare for All and I don't see anything happening here in any way from Harris/Walz. I doubt she even pushes seriously for what Biden lied and said he supported, a public option. I expect nothing here.

5. Pushing for some of the things that Manchin/Sinema got stripped out of the original Build Back Better bill like Universal Pre K, Paid Family and Medical Leave, etc. and reinstating the Child Tax Credit. This is actually the thing Harris has the most track record supporting and Walz got a lot of it done as Governor. Not convinced they will have the votes to get it done but I'm pretty convinced they'll actually put in real effort to do it and that's about as good as you can hope for.

So of my top 5 items #2 and 3 she has pretty wide ranging power to help without congressional action and I think she'll probably be decent on #2 and completely up in the air on #3. #1 and 4 no one is going to do anything about they are pipe dreams at this point. #5 I think they'll try but that takes congress and not confident they'll have the support or ability to get them done.

A real reply. Thank you for your opinion.
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(08-13-2024 10:25 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Serious question. Not being bombastic here.

What are the policies you will vote for and why do you believe Harris-Walz will properly address those policies?

I am voting for ...

... continuing the best economic / inflation recovery of any nation in the world
... Supreme Court reform
... Campaign Finance Reform
... Immigration reform (not just the border)
... Continuing the mandatory Defeat of Russia / Victory for Ukraine
... protecting, prioritizing and repairing our climate to the extent that we can, so that many generations of American's can enjoy its natural beauty
... reformation of our healthcare system to lower costs with better and easier accessibility
... Fixing Medicare / Medicaid / Social Security without cutting benefits to those dependent on it
... Preparing this country for the geopolitics and technology of the future
... A robust and mutually beneficial relationship with our allies and the rest of the world, with the US cementing and expanding our current position
... a return to political normalcy where maybe this country can begin healing its divisions
... enshrining abortion rights federally
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(08-13-2024 10:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:52 AM)b2b Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:45 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Since we have established anything said about Harris won’t be taken seriously, what are Trump’s policies? He loves to call out the problem but very light on solutions? If he wins is it another 4 years of promising a better ACA and getting zilch?

It can be summarized by a return to common sense across the board. Why do you pretend you can't Google?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform

1. Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion
2. Carry out the largest deportation operation in american history
3. End inflation, and make america affordable again
4. Make america the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!
7. Defend our constitution, our bill of rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms
8. Prevent world war three, restore peace in europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America
9. End the weaponization of government against the american people
10. Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders
11. Rebuild our cities, including washington dc, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.
12. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world
13.Keep the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency
14. Fight for and protect social security and medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age
15. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations
16. Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children
17. Keep men out of women's sports
18. Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again
19. Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship
20. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

Maybe ask the OP if he can google?

Here's the latest Biden-Harris draft DNC platform...although it may differ from the platform which should be out next week during the convention.

https://democrats.org/news/dnc-releases-...h-the-job/

Please show me where to google personal opinion Albert.

But I see you are cut and paste. How surprising.
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(08-13-2024 11:06 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 11:01 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:45 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Since we have established anything said about Harris won’t be taken seriously, what are Trump’s policies? He loves to call out the problem but very light on solutions? If he wins is it another 4 years of promising a better ACA and getting zilch?

I knew you would respond but I did think you would have a good answer. You didn’t.

If you want a Trump voter thread then make one.

Relax sparky. I think you asked an honest question. The replies not so much.

Exactly. You provided nothing to the tread.
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(08-13-2024 11:15 AM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  Liberal, but not voting for Harris. So not sure if this applies to me lol.

I’d like to vote for someone who actually acts presidential, is fiscally responsible, cares about the lower/middle class, cares about the environment (but isn’t unrealistic about expectations), lets people do what they want as long as it doesn’t affect others, provides legitimate solutions to problems (ie, lowering interest rates on college loans instead of just wiping them out), etc.

So in short, neither of these nominees.

Fair enough but maybe you want to pay a little more attention. You’re not going to get everything you want in one person. That just ain’t happening.
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QueMala is only interested in giving free medical to her new voters, the millions of them that she let into our country. She did say it and look it up if you doubt my post.
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(08-13-2024 10:52 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I'm not "liberal"

But your big five are all pretty much leftist talking points. So maybe you're not liberal, you're leftist.

I am liberal, at least in the classical sense--less government, more individual liberty and freedom.

Since you named a big five, and others on here have done similarly, I'll post mine:

1. Balance the budget and start working down the debt before it destroys our economy. Cut the administrative overhead that consumes up to 75% of federal programs, including the military.
2. Reform taxes to include a national consumption tax (VAT) coupled with lower, flatter, and broader (fewer/no non-business deductions/exclusions) income taxes, like what Bowles-Simpson and Domenici-Rivlin recommended a decade ago
3. Implement Bismarck universal private health care and either Milton Friedman's negative income tax or the Boortz-Linder prebate/prefund, and farm current health/welfare programs out to states on a voluntary basis, to be funded by the money the states save because Bismarck makes Medicaid redundant.
4. Build the strongest military in the world, at least equal to the next two combined, and never use it to fight a war that we don't intend to win.
5. Restore the voice of voters by transferring the power of unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats back to elected officials with three changes to the Administrative Procedure Act (APA): 1) all new rulemaking subject to advice and consent of congress, automatically if the impact exceeds a certain amount and otherwise upon petition by a certain number of congress critters; 2) sunset review of every agency and all its regulations every ten years; and 3) replace the captive administrative law judges (ALJs) who currently adjudicate administrative disputes with Article III administrative law courts in every federal judicial district.
6. Revise tax (see 2) and regulatory (see 5) rules and procedures and upgrade infrastructure and education, to encourage domestic manufacturing, energy, agriculture, and other value-added activities to return to the USA instead of offshoring, particularly in cases of essential goods.

Do either of the major parties plan or promise to do any of those things? No.
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(08-13-2024 11:20 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 10:54 AM)b2b Wrote:  b0nds, why do you care about unions? Are you in a union or something? Have you had any experience in trying to work with them? Also, I hope you understand what you're asking for with "universal" this and that.

Because increased worker power is good for workers in terms of pay, working conditions, and benefits. Are unions probably more annoying to deal with for companies? Yeah probably because you can't just treat individual workers however you want with almost zero recourse, which sounds good to me.

I understand what would have to happen to have "universal" programs, but if you are just asking me and not what Dems would do I personally know there are a whole bunch of current programs that hire thousands of do work employees to means test and make people jump through insane hoops to get any benefits that you can just completely get rid of.

I'm for giving a whole lot more taxpayer benefits to people, but means testing anything you give out on the front end is a massive waste of money because of all agencies and nonsense you have to create to do that technocratic nonsense. When the government decided they needed to get money out to everyone in the form of the stimulus checks somehow a government that supposedly can't do anything efficiently managed to do that crazy fast, and then just means tested it on the back end where if you made more than whatever on your taxes (I can't remember the threshold) you had to pay it back. If we had tried to means test those checks on the front end to make sure no one who wasn't "deserving" of them didn't get one it would have taken god knows how long and cost probably double or even triple to do. Tons of "welfare" programs right now that spend insane amounts on the means testing portion that's just an insane waste of time and money.

A very small amount of welfare money gets to the needy. Government will never be good at taking care of the poor. They only take care of themselves in the end.
08-13-2024 12:14 PM
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(08-13-2024 11:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-13-2024 11:19 AM)banker Wrote:  More simple question. How can you listen to her speak and think “this is who needs to represent my country at the highest level”?

She has accomplished little to nothing in her life except failing up the political ladder. At least Trump has built a lot of buildings in a bunch of places which, if you have ever dealt with that process, is not easy. He knows how to negotiate, which frankly is the most important skill for a president.

The cognitive dissonance is working overtime with this one. 03-yawn

trump couldn't build a lego model of baby Yoga.

Your lying has jumped the shark.
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