The Amount of Copper Needed for EVs Is Impossible for Mining Companies to Produce

According to a University of Michigan study, there is a big supply problem for EV transition.

Quote:Between now and 2050, the world will need to mine 115 percent more copper than has been mined in all of human history up until 2018, just to meet current copper needs without considering the green energy transition

what ... butt=Eplug can't shite another 499,992 wizard of Oh, Zees out his arse ... oopsie poopsie ... that's a different supply issue ....

Invest in copper.

(05-28-2024 04:13 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  Invest in copper.

We have a number of enterprising young men around here already in the copper business.

(05-28-2024 04:15 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-28-2024 04:13 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  Invest in copper.

We have a number of enterprising young men around here already in the copper business.

are they pole climbers looking for a li'l future lumber up the arse once behind 'those' bars ... those meth heads are a peach, hun....

today, I heard they're now stealing used cooling oil at restaurants ....












y'all ain' seen shite, yet!

I enjoy the "copper miners" who self-nominate for a Darwin.

https://www.google.com/search?q=copper+t...e&ie=UTF-8

We had some hit some EV chargers even though there have been multiple PSA's made about the copper in traffic cams.

Copper is almost $5 a pound. There are 150 copper cents in a pound. That means each pre 1982 US cent is worth over $0.03. Just some trivia.

I might have mentioned that I metal detect as a hobby. One of the byproducts of trying to find good stuff is you dig up a lot of pennies. I have dug over 12,000 copper Lincoln cents, another 3,000 wheat cents, and a couple hundred of the higher copper (less bronze) Indian head cents.

It’s amazing how many coins are in the ground. I’m getting close to having dug 35,000 coins total, about 800 of those silver or otherwise valuable.

(05-28-2024 05:33 PM)banker Wrote:  Copper is almost $5 a pound. There are 150 copper cents in a pound. That means each pre 1982 US cent is worth over $0.03. Just some trivia.

I might have mentioned that I metal detect as a hobby. One of the byproducts of trying to find good stuff is you dig up a lot of pennies. I have dug over 12,000 copper Lincoln cents, another 3,000 wheat cents, and a couple hundred of the higher copper (less bronze) Indian head cents.

It’s amazing how many coins are in the ground. I’m getting close to having dug 35,000 coins total, about 800 of those silver or otherwise valuable.

I'll send ya a back brace for Christmas ...

seriously, good for you! ... we all need 'hobbies outside the nest' ... I find it to be fortunate while viewing the internutz as >98% unrepairable...

Isn't mining terrible for the environment? That's why the administration is rushing toward EV's because combustion engines are bad for the environment.

Our idiot liberal governor here in Kentucky, who masquerades as a moderate, is championing the construction of a factory to build batteries for Ford EV's. They originally planned two facilities. That's been scaled back to one plant.

Ford cut sales forecasts of 150,000 vehicles a year after selling only 22,000 in 2022.

The fact idiot Andy sold this boondoggle as some economic boom for rural Kentucky isn't he biggest failure. What most will remember is how the development destroyed Glendale a beautiful little community.

I'm not opposed to looking for alternatives to gasoline powered vehicles but why jump from Gas to Electric? Why not follow Toyotas lead and heavily market hybrids for a decade?

Toyota sold 2.6 million hybrid vehicles in 2022 and 3.4 million last year. You can't force Americans to buy EV's when hybrids are more dependable and more practical.

(05-28-2024 05:41 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Isn't mining terrible for the environment? That's why the administration is rushing toward EV's because combustion engines are bad for the environment.

Our idiot liberal governor here in Kentucky, who masquerades as a moderate, is championing the construction of a factory to build batteries for Ford EV's. They originally planned two facilities. That's been scaled back to one plant.

Ford cut sales forecasts of 150,000 vehicles a year after selling only 22,000 in 2022.

The fact idiot Andy sold this boondoggle as some economic boom for rural Kentucky isn't he biggest failure. What most will remember is how the development destroyed Glendale a beautiful little community.

I'm not opposed to looking for alternatives to gasoline powered vehicles but why jump from Gas to Electric? Why not follow Toyotas lead and heavily market hybrids for a decade?

Toyota sold 2.6 million hybrid vehicles in 2022 and 3.4 million last year. You can't force Americans to buy EV's when hybrids are more dependable and more practical.

people don't realize how fk'd (en masse) they really are .... there's more in the bold text than too many can fathom once margin call happens....

that's not the 'click your heels' mistake that just "goes away"....


























y'all have no fk'n clue how nasty this gets....

(05-28-2024 04:13 PM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  Invest in copper.

If I had any ambition left I would purchase these furnaces environmentally friendly and melt the copper out of all the cores that people turn in to me.

Instead I just take scrap prices to get rid of it.

EV batteries are a failure before ever getting off the ground.

Rare minerals to produce batteries.

This is going to be a face plant unless something else is invented.

(05-28-2024 11:01 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  EV batteries are a failure before ever getting off the ground.

Rare minerals to produce batteries.

This is going to be a face plant unless something else is invented.

the laws of thermodynamics are REAL whether the dickbrains like it or not ... scale will always be an issue ... that's why it's limited to it's role ... EV mass transportation at scale has zero chance of success...

fk'n morons ... every g'dammed one of ya EV fkrs either played it off the dime of Johnny Q consumer/tax subsidy, or ewe're simply as stupid as they come...

regardless, the masses will realize margin call soon enough...

#2030myths

Ni and Co are other elements that can't be produced enough en masse to pull it off. My colleagues and I knew this was a failure before the gov't and those automotive corps who were investing in this scaled up for the market. If you worked in power gen and distribution, metals and mining, urban planning and other facets that can touch EV production and distribution...you knew how it was going to play out.

(05-29-2024 06:55 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Ni and Co are other elements that can't be produced enough en masse to pull it off. My colleagues and I knew this was a failure before the gov't and those automotive corps who were investing in this scaled up for the market. If you worked in power gen and distribution, metals and mining, urban planning and other facets that can touch EV production and distribution...you knew how it was going to play out.

lol ... I'm E) none of the above

as muh former 'taciturn' (his descriptor of self) programmer once told me after smashin' another mouse and slammin' the phone, "I have to give you credit ... you size 'em up better than most by makin a 'splash' in the final act." ... it was something along those lines ... at that Salt Lake transplant...

@25yearsLater #neverLookedBack #inTheFieldMyWay

(05-29-2024 07:04 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-29-2024 06:55 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Ni and Co are other elements that can't be produced enough en masse to pull it off. My colleagues and I knew this was a failure before the gov't and those automotive corps who were investing in this scaled up for the market. If you worked in power gen and distribution, metals and mining, urban planning and other facets that can touch EV production and distribution...you knew how it was going to play out.

lol ... I'm E) none of the above

as muh former 'taciturn' (his descriptor of self) programmer once told me after smashin' another mouse and slammin' the phone, "I have to give you credit ... you size 'em up better than most by makin a 'splash' in the final act." ... it was something along those lines ... at that Salt Lake transplant...

@25yearsLater #neverLookedBack #inTheFieldMyWay

No doubt others could see it too. I'd love to see which so-called experts the politicians consulted before they went off to inspire (force?) the industry to spend all of that capital to bring EVs to market.

But but muh torque

These arent serious people.

Just lulz at them

(05-29-2024 07:22 AM)shere khan Wrote:  But but muh torque

These arent serious people.

Just lulz at them

"Just the graft, ma'am" (source: A corrupt version of Joe Friday somewhere in the multiverse)

Don't have enough copper to make them. Can't sell the ones you make.

Somewhere in there is an obvious answer--Don't make so many.