Rees is the perfect fall-on-your-sword-then-fire-after-two-seasons kind of hire

(01-12-2024 09:37 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Rees is at a very similar point in his career as Marcus Freeman was when Brian Kelly left.

Yes and no. Rees and Freeman were both highly thought of elite coordinators that were hired away from other programs. Both are young and both are/were considered future head coaches, and both had strong ties to their original playing schools (ND and OSU, respectively).

Notre Dame and Alabama were/are in different places, however. Notre Dame had a great stretch under Kelly, with one of his top recruiting classes ever coming in. Had that not been the case, it would have been much easier for ND to look external and hire an outside, proven head coach (not caring if those recruits went elsewhere). The current players all wanted him too, forcing their hand. ND had never won a NC under Kelly, so they were/are still desperately trying to climb that mountain.

Alabama is coming off quite possibly the best era for any head coach in history to date. They are at the top of the mountain in college football. They have the resources, history, tradition, etc. to essentially make any hire it chooses to. Knowing that, and if they were to hand the reigns over to a first-time head coach, and it stalls or falls, it would set everything that Saban has established back years, if not longer.

In this new era of NIL and more power/control than ever to the athletes, it just would (and continue to) seem puzzling for these elite programs to hand over the reigns to an unproven head coach, especially when they can basically hire away a majority of coaches to begin with.

Not seeing much difference between hiring Freeman 2 years ago and hiring Rees now. It's a high reward low risk hire. Team digs him. AD office digs him. Saban digs him. Recruits dig him. He's a couple years younger than Freeman was but if you throw out Freeman's forgetful stint at Purdue the resume looks very similar.

It doesn't work you can make a change when the coaching landscape for the top guys looks more promising.

Kirby Smart isn't coming home. Sark isn't either. Kiffen would crawl to Tuscaloosa for the job but they don't need that mess. Dabo would make sense if he's get with the times and quit running a program like it's 2018.

One wildcard I thought they might look at is Josh Heupel...he's got a good thing going at Tennessee but he's always going to be the second row sled dog looking at GA's rear end in the SEC East as long as Kirby Smart is there.

Saban leaving out of the blue the week after the national championship game puts Alabama way behind the 8 Ball in terms of portal additions.

Adam Rittenberg of ESPN is reporting (via X) that Florida State head coach Mike Norvell just texted him that he's staying at FSU.

This would seem to indicate that Kalen DeBoer is going to be the next head coach of Alabama.

(01-12-2024 12:19 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Adam Rittenberg of ESPN is reporting (via X) that Florida State head coach Mike Norvell just texted him that he's staying at FSU.

This would seem to indicate that Kalen DeBoer is going to be the next head coach of Alabama.

I saw (unconfirmed) FSU and Norvell have agreed to an 8 year contract at over 10 million a year.

(01-12-2024 12:52 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 12:19 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Adam Rittenberg of ESPN is reporting (via X) that Florida State head coach Mike Norvell just texted him that he's staying at FSU.

This would seem to indicate that Kalen DeBoer is going to be the next head coach of Alabama.

I saw (unconfirmed) FSU and Norvell have agreed to an 8 year contract at over 10 million a year.

Jimmy Sexton strikes again!

Mark Schlabach and Andrea Adelson of ESPN with the latest:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...works-both

(01-12-2024 01:14 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Mark Schlabach and Andrea Adelson of ESPN with the latest:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...works-both

Heh, heh, DeBoer's agent....is Jimmy Sexton. Sexton just made 8 million from Norvell's extension and renegotiation. Classic extortion via college head coaching moves. Give my man who works for you a raise and I won't pimp him to Alabama. None of my generation had a clue that an attorney specializing in college coaching contracts could make a killing because when we were old enough for grad school coaches made 6 figures tops. I don't care if you were Shug Jordan or Bear Bryant or John McCay, or Woody Hayes. But by the late 70's the worm started to turn. Jimmy Sexton struck gold, and the shaft only showed more and more color!

How did this coaching list get made? Nick Saban's agent is....Jimmy Sexton. Who also represented Jimbo Fisher. Jimmy made a lot of money off of Florida State and Texas A&M. A Lot Of Money!

Reminds me of Alabama getting Saban after RichRod turned it down. I don't think schools usually nail their first choice unless they use a Brinks Truck.

(01-12-2024 12:19 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Adam Rittenberg of ESPN is reporting (via X) that Florida State head coach Mike Norvell just texted him that he's staying at FSU.

This would seem to indicate that Kalen DeBoer is going to be the next head coach of Alabama.

Possibly true and if so it would be a sad day at Washington. Just know that there are unsubstantiated rumors that DeBoer is working on a new contract at UW as I write this. It's entirely possible that the next Bama coach hasn't been listed.

We'll see

If the folks in Tuscaloosa are tired of winning and want a respite, then Cincy's Satterfield would be the ideal replacement for Saban. Please...

(01-12-2024 11:12 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  ... One wildcard I thought they might look at is Josh Heupel...he's got a good thing going at Tennessee but he's always going to be the second row sled dog looking at GA's rear end in the SEC East as long as Kirby Smart is there. ...

Hush your mouth about Josh Heupel now ... and note that Tennessee is no longer going to be in the SEC East next year. They play the Tide every year, but not Georgia.

Kiffin just seems like the obvious choice, but of course it sounds like the "money" people don't like him personally. Will be interesting to see who they hire, but it's a pretty short list of people who are actually better candidates than Kiffin, and doubtful any of them say yes.

(01-12-2024 10:57 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  They have the resources, history, tradition, etc. to essentially make any hire it chooses to.

And yet, it seems like a number of coaches have already turned them down.

(01-12-2024 01:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Kiffin just seems like the obvious choice, but of course it sounds like the "money" people don't like him personally. Will be interesting to see who they hire, but it's a pretty short list of people who are actually better candidates than Kiffin, and doubtful any of them say yes.

LOL! After Sexton gets through milking the University of Washington to keep DeBoer, he'll finally get around to Kiffin to Alabama or simply getting Dees promoted.

He had knowledge of Saban's retirement because he is Saban's agent. Then he got Norvell a raise, now he's working on DeBoer's raise, Sarkisian doesn't list an agent but there is a solid chance that Sexton is his agent as well. And he is Kiffin's agent.

The search list for an Alabama Head Coach was a to do make quick millions list for Sexton. If UW says no to DeBoer's raise he heads to Alabama. If they raise him it's Kiffin's turn. If Kiffin gets a big raise at Ole Miss it will be Dees.

What you are seeing is Sexton's pecking order. Norvell then DeBoer, then Sarkisian if Sark's one of his, then Kiffin, and then Dees. His list, his order, and he gets 10% of the total of each new contract. Amazing! Brilliant! and Sleazy! All at the same time!

Looks like coaches are recognizing replacing Saban is a trap.

(01-12-2024 01:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Kiffin just seems like the obvious choice, but of course it sounds like the "money" people don't like him personally. Will be interesting to see who they hire, but it's a pretty short list of people who are actually better candidates than Kiffin, and doubtful any of them say yes.

I agree. Lane Kiffen demonstrates an understanding of the portal and how to use NIL. Alabama has more NIL than Ole Miss.

(01-12-2024 02:07 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Looks like coaches are recognizing replacing Saban is a trap.

That or just getting stupid guaranteed long term $$ to stay where they are.

(01-12-2024 02:13 PM)chess Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 01:53 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Kiffin just seems like the obvious choice, but of course it sounds like the "money" people don't like him personally. Will be interesting to see who they hire, but it's a pretty short list of people who are actually better candidates than Kiffin, and doubtful any of them say yes.

I agree. Lane Kiffen demonstrates an understanding of the portal and how to use NIL. Alabama has more NIL than Ole Miss.

He's just such a clown show that I wonder if Alabama wants to deal with Joey Freshwater trolling for coeds in town.

...the local radio dudes here in the Ham JUST said that DeBoer was 'considered' months ago in the event of Saban's retirement - and they are reporting that the contact is being finalized as we speak (type)... time will tell, I reckon...