(10-04-2023 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Jim Jordan first to put his hat in the ring.

I just saw that on Twitter. I think he'd be a great choice. This is what I was talking about earlier. Jordan was nominated in January and refused to run in deference to McCarthy. I just never felt like the January vote had anything to do with making sure the best Speaker was in position----instead, it was about rewarding McCarthy for doing a good job of fund raising. Success at fund raising is not predictive of success as a House Speaker. They are not the same thing.

At least he isn't a preening peacock like McCarthy,

(10-04-2023 12:59 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 12:13 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 10:45 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 10:41 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 06:56 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Article: "After vote to unseat him, Kevin McCarthy says he will not run again for House speaker". - - Link: https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023/10/...696347771/


Votes have consequences. For some, at least.

Semantics I guess.

You didnt miss anything and its not semantics. He was voted out. He's not stepping aside. He was voted out, and wont try to get back in.

This is like not doing what your boss told you to do and you get fired, and you decide not to reapply for the job. You didnt step aside, you got sh*tcanned.

Much like what happened on a national scale in 2020.

Do you honestly not see the straight-line analogy being drawn - - and which you just highlighted in orange - - UMsU? Or are the Trumplet blinders truly that impervious?

So you pretty much believe that biden & harris won in an honest election. Do I have that right ?

Nope. I instead believe that Donald Trump - - through his own laziness, arrogance and political incompetence - - managed to LOSE an election to a bunch of underhanded cheaters. There's a difference.

At least you, Rbd, aren't intellectually paralyzed by sounds of "Reeee" every time you encounter an opinion with which you disagree. That is to your credit.

(10-04-2023 01:06 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Jim Jordan first to put his hat in the ring.

I think he is the best option but that is just me.

He's probably the best one who'd have the best opportunity to unite the different factions of the GOP

(10-04-2023 01:08 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  At least you, Rbd, aren't intellectually paralyzed by sounds of "Reeee" every time you encounter an opinion with which you disagree. That is to your credit.

I resemble this remark.

(10-04-2023 01:09 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:06 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Jim Jordan first to put his hat in the ring.

I think he is the best option but that is just me.

He's probably the best one who'd have the best opportunity to unite the different factions of the GOP

Or tear them apart when he goes all DJT on them for not following along with something he wants.

(10-04-2023 01:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Dems were so stupid to side with a Pro-Trump supporter to get rid of McCarthy. We may not have the votes needed. If several of the Democrats sided with the majority of the Republicans to keep McCarthy? It would have been over for Gaetz. The 8 Republicans who voted to oust McCarthy now have a target on their backs to get punished by the GOP. And Trump is not happy that McCarthy got booted that the infighting among the GOP is unfolding.

I would be FAAAAR more concerned if the Democrats voted to keep McCarthy. What no one talks about is that This Congress is less than half over. The majority of the term still remains. You would think the election was THIS November.

(10-04-2023 01:09 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:06 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Jim Jordan first to put his hat in the ring.

I think he is the best option but that is just me.

He's probably the best one who'd have the best opportunity to unite the different factions of the GOP

There will be republicans who won't want him and who will vote with the democrats who will vote as a unified bloc.

(10-04-2023 01:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Jim Jordan first to put his hat in the ring.

I just saw that on Twitter. I think he'd be a great choice. This is what I was talking about earlier. Jordan was nominated in January and refused to run in deference to McCarthy. I just never felt like the January vote had anything to do with making sure the best Speaker was in position----instead, it was about rewarding McCarthy for doing a good job of fund raising. Success at fund raising is not predictive of success as a House Speaker. They are not the same thing.

It was about finding a guy that a very narrow majority of Balkanized republicans could agree on.

Wait until we get 30 rounds of voting to get some even more milk toast RINO that democrats can accept and support.

(10-04-2023 02:06 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:09 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:06 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Jim Jordan first to put his hat in the ring.

I think he is the best option but that is just me.

He's probably the best one who'd have the best opportunity to unite the different factions of the GOP

There will be republicans who won't want him and who will vote with the democrats who will vote as a unified bloc.

We'll see. More likely they wont vote with the Democrats---they instead will vote present. My guess is we wont see this play out. After the McCarthy "bring it on" fiasco, I dont think the Republicans want to have another dysfunctional Jerry Springer family squabble on the House Floor. My guess is the sausage making process will largely be handled behind closed doors this time and it will require just a singe floor vote to elect a new Speaker.

They can't help it.

(10-04-2023 01:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Dems were so stupid to side with a Pro-Trump supporter to get rid of McCarthy. We may not have the votes needed. If several of the Democrats sided with the majority of the Republicans to keep McCarthy? It would have been over for Gaetz. The 8 Republicans who voted to oust McCarthy now have a target on their backs to get punished by the GOP. And Trump is not happy that McCarthy got booted that the infighting among the GOP is unfolding.

No they're not. They can nominate someone from their side and just need to get a majority of the votes to have them elected. They screwed McCarthy after he struck a deal with them...

Now they think they can get one of their own in.

(10-03-2023 09:03 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

Ooooh, wouldn't that just be grand.For sure most of the congressional Democrats would be wearing pink hats and screaming at the sky. I would love to see that.

I would love for them to reach out to Trey Gowdy to come back as Speaker.

lulz

(10-04-2023 04:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  lulz

lol---thats pretty funny.

I don't understand how having a fair nomination and vote for SOTH instead of just giving it to whomever is the one that is supposed to get it is a problem. Nobody wanted to go up against McCarthy in January because they didn't want to get black balled. That is all out the door now. Pick the best person. This will end up making the Republican Caucus more cohesive.

Just someone there that’s willing to Stop the Ukraine money train will make it a huge win against the Uniparty and a win for America

(10-04-2023 05:20 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Just someone there that’s willing to Stop the Ukraine money train will make it a huge win against the Uniparty and a win for America

That was literally the 45 day spending bill that McCarthy negotiated before he got removed. Ukraine funding was taking out.

(10-04-2023 05:09 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I don't understand how having a fair nomination and vote for SOTH instead of just giving it to whomever is the one that is supposed to get it is a problem. Nobody wanted to go up against McCarthy in January because they didn't want to get black balled. That is all out the door now. Pick the best person. This will end up making the Republican Caucus more cohesive.

There were several people that ran against McCarthy then. None of them got more than 10% of the vote. Including people I thought were much better McCarthy was. It's just they have no support. The issue isn't that there aren't better people as options. The issue is with such a razor thin majority none of them can get elected.