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RE: Rough Estimate Of TV Money
That's a word salad for "never lettered in ****"

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Actually, it is my belief that is exactly what he lettered in.

Oh, before I forget ------LOL....
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(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 05:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 02:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so

I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.

We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either

I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC

One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire

AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.

Another layup by Simple Jack.

Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close
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(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 05:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 02:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so

I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.

We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either

I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC

One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire

AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.

Another layup by Simple Jack.

Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

I remember a telethon type season ticket pledge drive in an attempt to convince the NFL to admit the Southmen/Grizzlies to the league.
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(05-16-2023 04:01 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 05:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 02:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so

I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.

We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either

I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC

One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire

AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.

Another layup by Simple Jack.

Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

I remember a telethon type season ticket pledge drive in an attempt to convince the NFL to admit the Southmen/Grizzlies to the league.

Maybe that was it----- Rozelle did promise/assure MEMPHIS would get in next----Rozelle retires --along comes Tagliabue-----promise squelched .

I'm glad you called them the SOUTHMEN---I still refer to them as that even on this board, The best sport team name in the history of sports. With the sad state of the country ---wouldn't even be able to use that name now.
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(05-16-2023 04:17 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 04:01 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 05:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.

Another layup by Simple Jack.

Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

I remember a telethon type season ticket pledge drive in an attempt to convince the NFL to admit the Southmen/Grizzlies to the league.

Maybe that was it----- Rozelle did promise/assure MEMPHIS would get in next----Rozelle retires --along comes Tagliabue-----promise squelched .

I'm glad you called them the SOUTHMEN---I still refer to them as that even on this board, The best sport team name in the history of sports. With the sad state of the country ---wouldn't even be able to use that name now.

They were originally the Northmen when they were going to be in Canada but they changed the name when they were relocated here.

Used to stump sports quizzes with the question What former Memphis Grizzly was in the movie Midway.

They always focused on basketball Grizzlies.
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(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 05:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 02:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so

I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.

We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either

I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC

One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire

AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.

Another layup by Simple Jack.

Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

that 1995 expansion "contest" was rigged!, From the beginning The slots were going to Charlotte and St Louis


St Louis could not get their act together so the NFL went to the next city on the list... Memphis -- but only of we built a new stadium... We said NO -- Jacksonville said yes to a new stadium and got the last franchise... 04-chairshot

A few years later Baltimore and St Loius built new stadiums and got existing teams to move ..then Tennessee did the same -- committed to an existing team to build a new stadium.. the only problem was that the city was nashville not Memphis.

Then Memphis committed to build a new arena and got an exisitng NBA team to move to Memphis..

Houston, LA, and Cleveland who all refused to build their new stadiums earlier and lost their NFL teams all built new stadiums and got NFL teams...

See a pattern here?
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(05-16-2023 10:39 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 05:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 02:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Let me guess ---something changed LOL------If the university was told that we were in----obviously they need better contacts--because we didn't get in. PRETENDING we were #2 on the list didn't make it so

I haven't been real close to the program in a number of years----and even I knew we wouldn't get in last go round---and MOST/not all of my contacts are now dead.

We were not the first one chosen by the BIG LEAST years ago either

I hope we somehow/someway end up in the BIG 12----otherwise like some have suggested we might have a shot at a GUTTED ACC

One thing is certain---if we miss the next round of expansion ----then TIGER sports will change----it is dire---we have to get in someway somehow---------and play any card all cards ---without embarrassment ----get the local and state media and politicians involved ---its that important and dire

AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.

Another layup by Simple Jack.

Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

that 1995 expansion "contest" was rigged!, From the beginning The slots were going to Charlotte and St Louis


St Louis could not get their act together so the NFL went to the next city on the list... Memphis -- but only of we built a new stadium... We said NO -- Jacksonville said yes to a new stadium and got the last franchise... 04-chairshot

A few years later Baltimore and St Loius built new stadiums and got existing teams to move ..then Tennessee did the same -- committed to an existing team to build a new stadium.. the only problem was that the city was nashville not Memphis.

Then Memphis committed to build a new arena and got an exisitng NBA team to move to Memphis..

Houston, LA, and Cleveland who all refused to build their new stadiums earlier and lost their NFL teams all built new stadiums and got NFL teams...

See a pattern here?

The speculation/debate that I recall back then was to build a SUPERDOME type arena at Shelby Farms.
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(05-16-2023 11:58 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 10:39 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 05:27 PM)Stammers Wrote:  AGAIN, real slow because you still too thick to understand. It turns out that my contacts were impeccable. Rudd, Bowen, Martin, Laurie, Graf, Norvell, Tubby, EVERYONE associated with the program were saying we were in, because that is what the BIG 12 told us.

Another layup by Simple Jack.

Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

that 1995 expansion "contest" was rigged!, From the beginning The slots were going to Charlotte and St Louis


St Louis could not get their act together so the NFL went to the next city on the list... Memphis -- but only of we built a new stadium... We said NO -- Jacksonville said yes to a new stadium and got the last franchise... 04-chairshot

A few years later Baltimore and St Loius built new stadiums and got existing teams to move ..then Tennessee did the same -- committed to an existing team to build a new stadium.. the only problem was that the city was nashville not Memphis.

Then Memphis committed to build a new arena and got an exisitng NBA team to move to Memphis..

Houston, LA, and Cleveland who all refused to build their new stadiums earlier and lost their NFL teams all built new stadiums and got NFL teams...

See a pattern here?

The speculation/debate that I recall back then was to build a SUPERDOME type arena at Shelby Farms.

If Clarence Saunders would have accepted George Hallas' invitation we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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(05-16-2023 04:41 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 04:17 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 04:01 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

I remember a telethon type season ticket pledge drive in an attempt to convince the NFL to admit the Southmen/Grizzlies to the league.

Maybe that was it----- Rozelle did promise/assure MEMPHIS would get in next----Rozelle retires --along comes Tagliabue-----promise squelched .

I'm glad you called them the SOUTHMEN---I still refer to them as that even on this board, The best sport team name in the history of sports. With the sad state of the country ---wouldn't even be able to use that name now.

They were originally the Northmen when they were going to be in Canada but they changed the name when they were relocated here.

Used to stump sports quizzes with the question What former Memphis Grizzly was in the movie Midway.

They always focused on basketball Grizzlies.

LOL--nice
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(05-16-2023 03:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 11:58 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 10:39 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 02:03 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Bud Adams said he was going to vote for Memphis during expansion too.

Unfortunately, people lie to your face without blinking.

^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

that 1995 expansion "contest" was rigged!, From the beginning The slots were going to Charlotte and St Louis


St Louis could not get their act together so the NFL went to the next city on the list... Memphis -- but only of we built a new stadium... We said NO -- Jacksonville said yes to a new stadium and got the last franchise... 04-chairshot

A few years later Baltimore and St Loius built new stadiums and got existing teams to move ..then Tennessee did the same -- committed to an existing team to build a new stadium.. the only problem was that the city was nashville not Memphis.

Then Memphis committed to build a new arena and got an exisitng NBA team to move to Memphis..

Houston, LA, and Cleveland who all refused to build their new stadiums earlier and lost their NFL teams all built new stadiums and got NFL teams...

See a pattern here?

The speculation/debate that I recall back then was to build a SUPERDOME type arena at Shelby Farms.

If Clarence Saunders would have accepted George Hallas' invitation we wouldn't be having this conversation.

YEP
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I remember all of that, then just a couple of years later the Oilers used Memphis as a temporary home and the idiots could not understand why we didn't fall all over ourselves to support and facilitate them. As I recall it was going to be a 2 year stay but the first year went so poorly they moved to Nashville after only 1 and played their games at Vanderbilt? Not sure on that.
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(05-19-2023 08:10 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I remember all of that, then just a couple of years later the Oilers used Memphis as a temporary home and the idiots could not understand why didn't fall all over ourselves to support and facilities them. As I recall it was going to be a 2 year stay but the first year went so poorly they moved to Nashville after only 1 and played their games at Vanderbilt? Not sure on that.

Yep, I remember that well. The Oilers just assumed Memphis would lay out the red carpet for them. Memphians were furious that we were going to do this for Nashville, which just had a team fall into their lap. Bud Adams was a flat-out liar too, he said he would cast a vote for Memphis to get an expansion team. And when the totals came out it showed not a single owner voted for Memphis. He was exposed as a bald-faced liar and then he expected the city to show him love.
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(05-15-2023 06:18 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(05-15-2023 03:09 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 09:24 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-14-2023 08:34 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Then not only do they all need better contacts--or you were their contact LOL------they are also extremely naive..No wonder we are always the bridesmaid -never the bride

The contacts I have said no way we were getting in------before the announcement was made - I started thread titled- "The reputation of a city"- -----after you had screamed (tigerscane) style for months that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati-and nobody wanted Houston -------later Calkins did a piece on the subject .

Guess what--we didn't get in---guess what Houston did---guess what still no admission of being wrong ----Oh Yeah ! I keep forgetting ---as always with your predictions/statements --- something changed --always does

P.T. Barnum had it right LOL

I just hope we were #5 on everybodys list only behind Houston/BYU/UCF/Cincinnati-----but SMU/BOISE/USF/FAU/FRESNO/San Diego St/Coastal etc etc etc--- might have something to say about that

Simple Jack, I did NOT predict that we were second in line; I correctly said that our admin, coaching staffs and all our top boosters were told by Rudd and Bowen that we were in. I was 100% right. Let's try one more time...

All Of Memphis Admin, Boosters Said We Were In

Quote:Aside from throwing speculation Hardaway’s way, Lefft also claimed that Memphis brass told Smith that the Tigers were headed for the Big 12 when they lured him away from Texas Tech two years ago.

“The first thing they told him is we’re going to the Big 12. It’s pretty much a lock,” he said. “He gets there and all of a sudden it appears as though they were never really a contender.

“There’s some people that now sit on the board that are some pretty significant folks, along with the president and both the athletic administrators who were part of the process, and (they) represented to him that this was going to happen.”

Good God, you are dumb.




LOL---Yeah and Tubby Smith approached MEMPHIS about the job LOL

The BIG 12 told us we were in -LOL----and they told Houston that nobody wanted them

I'm not denying that our brass told Smith that we were in----but it was because they were just speculating---probably reading your repeated posts LOL---.

Smith was in the BIG 12 at the time. All Smith had to do was ask his President or the BIG 12 officials is MEMPHIS #2 on everybodys list.

MEMPHIS stupidly contacted Smith about coming here --HOPING it would help our chances of being #2 on everybodys list.

It was common knowledge all over town from ALL SOURCES that the REASON we hired Smith was to HELP our chances to get in--not because we were already in.

Think about it people---if the BIG 12 brass -had already told the MEMPHIS brass that we were already in---why in the world would we have to be hiring Smith to HELP our chances-------if the BIG 12 told us we were already in

The fact is our brass was just speculating we were in.

How stupid would it have been if the BIG 12 confided to MEMPHIS that you are in ----then MEMPHIS' brass to start spreading it around ----and to a coach in the BIG 12 that we were trying to hire. They told Smith that on speculation that we were in

So let me get this straight. Weeks/months before the announcement the big 12 brass told the MEMPHIS brass that we were #2 on --NOT ONLY-- the BIG 12' list but EVERYBODYS list only behind Cincinnati ------then it stands to reason that the BIG 12 brass would have done the same to BYU/UCF/Cin brass-------------and if we were #2 on everybody's list------then the last minute political moves by the state of TEXAS to get in Houston --would have knocked BYU or UCF out ---NOT US---because we were #2 on the list

Even the BIG 12 fiasco 6-10 ? years ago when the BIG 12 tried to strong arm Fred Smith------were we even #2 on the list back then ?----If we were that much ahead of all the other schools on the list that were trying to get in the big 12 back then----if our resume was that much stronger than all the other schools trying for inclusion---then why did they try to strong arm Fred Smith----did they do the same to all the other schools hoping for admission . The reason they tried to strong arm Fred Smith was because we were not #2 on the list back either-------------again when all of our brass were saying we were in-- a lock.

Here are facts as we know them

1--We were not #2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati----because the late addition of Houston would not have knocked us out--rather UCF or BYU

2--Obviously somebody wanted Houston-because they are in. Even if it was only the state of Texas----the big 12 brass voted them in

3--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months before the announcement was made that we were left out ------that we were #2 on everybodys list only behind Cincinnati

4--You repeatedly posted for weeks/months that nobody wanted Houston

5--Now You proclaim that you have never predicted that we were 2nd in line---------and now proclaiming that you were just repeating what Rudd and Bowen had spread ---and thus in agreement with me that Rudd and Bowen --just like yourself --need better sources because none of you didn't know what you were talking about and were 100% WRONG---------------so the day before when the Big 12 announced that they were exploring the possibility of expanding ----that they contacted the MEMPHIS brass and said--fear not-- because you are #2 on not just our list but everybodys list only behind Cin-----------because thats about how long you had been PREDICTING that we were #2 and Houston was out LOL

6--If the MEMPHIS brass had been told that we were in by the BIG 12 brass---don't you think that the BIG 12 brass would have put a gag order on the MEMPHIS brass--to not tell a soul so the information wouldn't leak out---and if they had a gag order then they would tell a big 12 coach that they want to hire that they were told by the big 12 brass that they were in --how dumb would that had been---and if the MEMPHIS brass did leak it out - they are irresponsible at best.

7-- We were not #2 on everybodys list---but if we had been --then as Always when you proclaim/predict--SOMETHING CHANGED always does when you proclaim/predict something --heck MUSH has a better track record of accuracy ---whether it was loose lips by the MEMPHIS brass thus pissing off the BIG12 brass/ or you betraying all of your outstanding sources by leaking private information on MT.ORG thus pissing off the big 12 brass LOL/or the state of Texas and their politics removing from us from being #2 on the list because of all above SOMETHING CHANGED------the fact remains you were wrong and the reason matters not.

8--I along with the entire MEMPHIS fanbase wishes you had been right----but sadly you were 100% wrong.
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(05-19-2023 08:10 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I remember all of that, then just a couple of years later the Oilers used Memphis as a temporary home and the idiots could not understand why didn't fall all over ourselves to support and facilities them. As I recall it was going to be a 2 year stay but the first year went so poorly they moved to Nashville after only 1 and played their games at Vanderbilt? Not sure on that.

he was upset after the pittsburg game
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(05-19-2023 08:10 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I remember all of that, then just a couple of years later the Oilers used Memphis as a temporary home and the idiots could not understand why didn't fall all over ourselves to support and facilities them. As I recall it was going to be a 2 year stay but the first year went so poorly they moved to Nashville after only 1 and played their games at Vanderbilt? Not sure on that.

he was upset after the pittsburg game

Yeah there were more Steeler's fans at that game than Oilers fans.

What did the dumb*** think was gonna happen? Let's see: NFL mislead and fukked Memphis a couple years ago now I want to use the city as a temp base for a couple of years before going to Nashville. What could go wrong?
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(05-19-2023 01:20 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(05-19-2023 10:09 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  
(05-19-2023 08:10 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I remember all of that, then just a couple of years later the Oilers used Memphis as a temporary home and the idiots could not understand why didn't fall all over ourselves to support and facilities them. As I recall it was going to be a 2 year stay but the first year went so poorly they moved to Nashville after only 1 and played their games at Vanderbilt? Not sure on that.

he was upset after the pittsburg game

Yeah there were more Steeler's fans at that game than Oilers fans.

What did the dumb*** think was gonna happen? Let's see: NFL mislead and fukked Memphis a couple years ago now I want to use the city as a temp base for a couple of years before going to Nashville. What could go wrong?

Steelers fans always travel well, but that game was ridiculous. Steelers players were waving for the crowd to be loud every time the Oilers had a 3rd down on offense. I can't imagine what the Oilers brass was thinking seeing that.
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(05-19-2023 08:10 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I remember all of that, then just a couple of years later the Oilers used Memphis as a temporary home and the idiots could not understand why we didn't fall all over ourselves to support and facilitate them. As I recall it was going to be a 2 year stay but the first year went so poorly they moved to Nashville after only 1 and played their games at Vanderbilt? Not sure on that.

The Oilers were supposed to help build the fanbase.
Players were supposed to go out to area schools, meet the kids, build relations that way etc.
That's not what happened.
A lot of times the players were no-shows.
I remember when the Memphis Americans indoor soccer team came to Memphis.
They played a game of volleyball against our volleyball team at Bellevue Jr High, the Americans's players could only use their feet.
Still, I became a fan that day as I got to meet them after the 'show was over'.
The Oilers acted spoiled...like they were too good to be in Memphis.
Our town was a dump to them, and that's how they treated it and it's fans.
I was already a fan of another team...but I vowed id never have anything for them... No good feelings or anything of the sort.
The Oilers/Titans can go to Hell for all I care.
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(05-16-2023 04:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 03:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 11:58 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 10:39 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 12:41 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  ^^THIS^^---and years before that when Jimmy the Greek and Phyllis George (I think they were the two) did some type of event fundraiser/telethon type thing promoting MEMPHIS to get the next expansion ---however Seattle and Tampa Bay got the prize in 76

There was somewhat a backlash/outcry nationally that MEMPHIS was passed over ------so commish Pete Rozelle promised the city of MEMPHIS that they would get in the next expansion

MEMPHIS kept hosting all the preseason exhibition games for years with the promise they were in next time

95 comes along and Carolina and Jacksonville gets the prize

All over MEMPHIS came the billboards saying NFL--stands for --No Fair League

MEMPHIS stopped doing the exhibition games ----and started pursuing buying existing teams -----and was used and lied to by team owners then as well

I might have some of that wrong because I am getting old and memory not what it used to be--------but it is close

that 1995 expansion "contest" was rigged!, From the beginning The slots were going to Charlotte and St Louis


St Louis could not get their act together so the NFL went to the next city on the list... Memphis -- but only of we built a new stadium... We said NO -- Jacksonville said yes to a new stadium and got the last franchise... 04-chairshot

A few years later Baltimore and St Loius built new stadiums and got existing teams to move ..then Tennessee did the same -- committed to an existing team to build a new stadium.. the only problem was that the city was nashville not Memphis.

Then Memphis committed to build a new arena and got an exisitng NBA team to move to Memphis..

Houston, LA, and Cleveland who all refused to build their new stadiums earlier and lost their NFL teams all built new stadiums and got NFL teams...

See a pattern here?

The speculation/debate that I recall back then was to build a SUPERDOME type arena at Shelby Farms.

If Clarence Saunders would have accepted George Hallas' invitation we wouldn't be having this conversation.

YEP

If Saunders had accepted the NFL invitation not sure the Jim Crow laws would have permitted NFL teams to compete here.
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(05-21-2023 05:59 PM)Keeper Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 04:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 03:47 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 11:58 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-16-2023 10:39 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  that 1995 expansion "contest" was rigged!, From the beginning The slots were going to Charlotte and St Louis


St Louis could not get their act together so the NFL went to the next city on the list... Memphis -- but only of we built a new stadium... We said NO -- Jacksonville said yes to a new stadium and got the last franchise... 04-chairshot

A few years later Baltimore and St Loius built new stadiums and got existing teams to move ..then Tennessee did the same -- committed to an existing team to build a new stadium.. the only problem was that the city was nashville not Memphis.

Then Memphis committed to build a new arena and got an exisitng NBA team to move to Memphis..

Houston, LA, and Cleveland who all refused to build their new stadiums earlier and lost their NFL teams all built new stadiums and got NFL teams...

See a pattern here?

The speculation/debate that I recall back then was to build a SUPERDOME type arena at Shelby Farms.

If Clarence Saunders would have accepted George Hallas' invitation we wouldn't be having this conversation.

YEP

If Saunders had accepted the NFL invitation not sure the Jim Crow laws would have permitted NFL teams to compete here.

why would it?

very few black NFL players in that era.

was post WW2 before NFL was permanently integrated.
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(05-20-2023 01:00 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(05-19-2023 08:10 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I remember all of that, then just a couple of years later the Oilers used Memphis as a temporary home and the idiots could not understand why we didn't fall all over ourselves to support and facilitate them. As I recall it was going to be a 2 year stay but the first year went so poorly they moved to Nashville after only 1 and played their games at Vanderbilt? Not sure on that.

The Oilers were supposed to help build the fanbase.
Players were supposed to go out to area schools, meet the kids, build relations that way etc.
That's not what happened.
A lot of times the players were no-shows.
I remember when the Memphis Americans indoor soccer team came to Memphis.
They played a game of volleyball against our volleyball team at Bellevue Jr High, the Americans's players could only use their feet.
Still, I became a fan that day as I got to meet them after the 'show was over'.
The Oilers acted spoiled...like they were too good to be in Memphis.
Our town was a dump to them, and that's how they treated it and it's fans.
I was already a fan of another team...but I vowed id never have anything for them... No good feelings or anything of the sort.
The Oilers/Titans can go to Hell for all I care.

exactly and it amazes me how people have forgotten about that.
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