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RE: Trump says he will be arrested on Tuesday
(03-23-2023 12:01 PM)maximus Wrote: (03-23-2023 09:15 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (03-23-2023 07:39 AM)maximus Wrote: (03-22-2023 11:37 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (03-22-2023 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote: My point to you, tanq, is that your distain for Trump robs you of the ability to be objective. And that detracts from any point you make, even if your point had/has merit.
Yes I dislike Trump.
What precisely is incorrect about my statements, due to that dislike?
Not any generalized comment like that 'wow you dont like Trump.' What specifically have I said that is unfair, untrue, or deceptive.
Im all ears.
My profession, I *have* to be objective. I *have* to get over a distaste of a client -- I *have* to provide the *best*, most candid assessment I can.
And, honestly, I do a pretty good job of that.
Quote:Much like Owl’s reply to your question earlier in the thread, when you review the history, dating back to 2016, it’s difficult to support the effort the left is placing on the latest Trump quest.
Do you realize I just dumped on the NY issue, in that getting a felony is going to be a real hard road to hoe?
If I am so die hard non-objective, wouldnt you find that a tad odd?
And, I can point you to another discussion with #s earlier today, in the Rice forum, where we discussed the earlier issues. Many of those earlier issues I cam down squarely on 'wow, they have a hard on for Trump.' Try the Rice board and look at my comments there.
So please dont tell me how I blind myself one way or the other. I actually have a record there -- look at it.
In order, Trump faced an unfair and unwarranted attack via the Steele dossier and through the Mueller investigation.
The first impeachment of him was based on very thin grounds -- it should have never been launched.
Im *on record* as supporting him and his position on those. Seriously.
When it comes to 1/6, I am harsh on Trump. His actions leading to 1/6 were disgusting. I cannot believe that someone so thoroughly tried to bork the process of certification, even without the issue of the riot.
I am a very harsh critic of how he handled himself during the Capitol riot. Bummer. I call those as I see them.
As for MAL, I dont see the giant conspiracy that many here see. I do see a guy who lied to the Archives, lied under oath to the DOJ about having stuff, and ultimately threw the middle finger enough times he got his ass searched and the items he shouldnt have had seized.
In the NY Cohen case, I think at worst this should be a misdemeanor.
I dont know enough about Georgia, or the other aspects of the Special Prosecutor's case to have an opinion. But I am *not* going to kneejerk and yell he is guilty, nor not guilty as many do here for those issues.
Quote:While people like me didn’t like Clinton, he was still a good President. We can admit that, in fairness. He also had a hand in making some of us wealthy in a way we didn’t view as possible.
I freely admit that Trump did many things I supported. Criminy, I even voted for the guy in '20.
I cant stand how he has, at least to me, taken a giant **** on the electoral process in the events leading to 1/6. He, being Trump, simply flipped the finger at the process that was going to render a result he didnt like. And no, I cannot condone doing that. At all.
Quote:Trump was a good President, better than good actually. And he helped make some of us even more wealthy. Even the less fortunate saw an uptick in everything monetary and that’s great.
I would agree partially. On the whole there were many things I liked and supported. I have said this many times. That doesnt blind me to what I consider to be some very serious shortcomings.
Quote:But a faction of the population have an agenda and allow that agenda to harpoon their ability to be objective.
What about my positions above are 'an agenda' and render my ability to be objective to nothing?
Look I respect your opinion. I cannot rip a genuinely held opinion. Even when it differs from mine. In short, your view on the good that Trump did is positive. It tends potentially to you overlooking some serious stuff.
My view is that there is a deal of good that Trump did in office. Again, I voted for him in '20, when I did not do so in '16.
My view is also, during the run up to 1/6, he absolutely attempted to subvert the process. He may have genuinely believed that he did not lose -- but, even then -- he seriously tried to mess with those rules and processes that have done us fairly well for the last 240+ years. Solely for his benefit, imo.
In my book that is inexcusable. That does not 'flow over' into a 'anything to get Trump mode' as some seem to think that I hold. Again, as an example, the issue currently in New York should be no more than a misdemeanor. Does that sound like an unobjective Get Trump No Matter What position?
Thank you for the calm and considered language and tone in your post. Hopefully this reciprocates that.
I might have missed it, but can you point to the post where you show your disdain for the absolute criminal in office at the moment.
I just see the broken record on Trump.
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The search function works well here, and I have made those comments about Biden.
I use Tapatalk to access this forum and the search function sucks donkey balls, so if you could kindly point me to a few of your incessant insults of Biden
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I thought it was disdain. Now you demand 'insults'. Not just that 'incessant' insults. Got it. I suggest try again.
Not going to find incessant insults. Bummer. May find a few insults. You will find where there is no way I support the vast number of his policies, and there is no way I would vote for the man.
But please decide what is the level you want first. You seem to be angrily drifting, and apoplectic that I am not an equal opportunity insulter or critic. How dare that happen.
At the end of the issue, however, that, my friend, is a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.
And if your search doesnt seem to be effective, again, that would appear to be, good sir, a 'you' problem, not a 'me' problem.
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