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(03-11-2023 07:16 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  
(03-11-2023 02:47 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  K would probably only leave for the right opportunity !!
I really don’t see the Marquette or Wisconsin jobs opening up soon !!

Notre Dame is taking their time looking for the right coach. I hope TK is eager to add more titles and championships in Toledo. But if he were to get an offer like Dennis Gates just signed who could blame him for leaving?

"Missouri's Dennis Gates, who agreed to a restructured contract on Friday that will go through 2028-29 and is now paying him $4 million annually. Gates' new buyout is a whopping $25.5 million."

I dunno…don’t you kinda gotta get to the Big Dance at least ONCE as a mid-major coach before you’re seriously under consideration for a “promotion”? At least to a place like Wisconsin or Marquette? Those fan bases would have fits, I think…
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Need a big in the portal, badly. Please provide updates.
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(03-10-2023 09:21 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 02:47 AM)pono Wrote:  The portal is heating up. Lots of small college stars and good low to mid major players putting in their names in the last week. The D2 and D3 guys are looking for low to mid major new schools, while the D1 guys are gonna sign at all levels.

TK said last month we would sign a frontcourt player from the portal. Expect a good offensive player with 2 years of remaining eligibility. Someone who can step into the rotation, possibly as a starter. UT recruits on skill, fit and commitment. Could be a sf, pf, or center. Won't be a kid who has already transferred once or twice.

one MAC name in the portal is boopie miller. the cmu pg who was on the all-fresh team 2 years ago and looked good early this year before getting hurt. he was in the portal last yr too but chose to come back to cmu. i don't get good vibes from barbee, but he has an eye for talent.

May 1 thru 15 portal window
We won't be going for that Miller with Sonny WIlson coming in,
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RE: Transfer Portal
(03-11-2023 09:38 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(03-11-2023 07:16 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  
(03-11-2023 02:47 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  K would probably only leave for the right opportunity !!
I really don’t see the Marquette or Wisconsin jobs opening up soon !!

Notre Dame is taking their time looking for the right coach. I hope TK is eager to add more titles and championships in Toledo. But if he were to get an offer like Dennis Gates just signed who could blame him for leaving?

"Missouri's Dennis Gates, who agreed to a restructured contract on Friday that will go through 2028-29 and is now paying him $4 million annually. Gates' new buyout is a whopping $25.5 million."


I dunno…don’t you kinda gotta get to the Big Dance at least ONCE as a mid-major coach before you’re seriously under consideration for a “promotion”? At least to a place like Wisconsin or Marquette? Those fan bases would have fits, I think…

Typically yes, though Mike White got hired at Florida after 4 seasons at Louisiana Tech despite no NCAA Tournament appearances. I suspect his father's connections as the AD at Duke helped with that though
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RE: Transfer Portal
(03-12-2023 02:19 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  
(03-11-2023 09:38 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(03-11-2023 07:16 PM)Sleepy Wrote:  
(03-11-2023 02:47 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  K would probably only leave for the right opportunity !!
I really don’t see the Marquette or Wisconsin jobs opening up soon !!

Notre Dame is taking their time looking for the right coach. I hope TK is eager to add more titles and championships in Toledo. But if he were to get an offer like Dennis Gates just signed who could blame him for leaving?

"Missouri's Dennis Gates, who agreed to a restructured contract on Friday that will go through 2028-29 and is now paying him $4 million annually. Gates' new buyout is a whopping $25.5 million."


I dunno…don’t you kinda gotta get to the Big Dance at least ONCE as a mid-major coach before you’re seriously under consideration for a “promotion”? At least to a place like Wisconsin or Marquette? Those fan bases would have fits, I think…

Typically yes, though Mike White got hired at Florida after 4 seasons at Louisiana Tech despite no NCAA Tournament appearances. I suspect his father's connections as the AD at Duke helped that though

ADs are smart enough to realize that losing one game shouldn't wash off the shine of a .750 winning percentage over the last 3 years on top of generally dominating the other teams in similar situations. His use of the transfer portal is probably something some people would be impressed by as well. I think a lot of this will depend on RayJ...if he leaves, I doubt TK will want to have to deal with what will inevitably be a fairly significant rebuild unless he is being paid a lot more than we can offer him to do it.
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Let's assume RayJ will be back. No signs pointing otherwise. The portal is loaded. Toledo, despite the NCAA heartbreak, is becoming a bigger name in college hoops. TK's rep as an offensive mastermind and developer of talent is peaking. Quality transfers looking for both a winning program and good team culture and chemistry will have UT on their short list.

Guys like this https://www.google.com/search?q=jaylen+w...NKMy-i1tyA
6-7 star D2 small forward Jaylen Wells can see tape of how we use Milner.
I'd expect us to snag a pretty good portal guy. The question is how many current players don't come back and if we have scholarships for both a small forward and a big guy. Simmons will probably start next year in the post and give us a physical presence, but we need a frontcourt scorer asap.

All the good players at CMU are in the portal and it looks like the same will happen at Buffalo now too. Barbee is gonna fail at CMU because he isn't building a team culture. Buffalo looking for a new coach like BG.
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TK’s challenge is to build a team more like Akron last season & Kent this season. We’ve been pretty close. It’s not so much about starters who can play 35 minutes a game as it is having 3 or even 4 guys who can contribute in specific roles off the bench (defensive play, shooter, rebounder, take-up-space guy). A healthy Cochran will certainly help. Even if Edu comes back, still need another true big who can provide minutes. At least 1 wing in the size & style of Milner/ Shumate needs to be found.

Would love to see the Rockets bear down in the NIT & go on a mission to win a couple games & then throw a scare into a “bigger name” in game3. That could help us recruit missing pieces from the portal.
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(03-12-2023 03:10 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  TK’s challenge is to build a team more like Akron last season & Kent this season. We’ve been pretty close. It’s not so much about starters who can play 35 minutes a game as it is having 3 or even 4 guys who can contribute in specific roles off the bench (defensive play, shooter, rebounder, take-up-space guy). A healthy Cochran will certainly help. Even if Edu comes back, still need another true big who can provide minutes. At least 1 wing in the size & style of Milner/ Shumate needs to be found.

Would love to see the Rockets bear down in the NIT & go on a mission to win a couple games & then throw a scare into a “bigger name” in game3. That could help us recruit missing pieces from the portal.

Find a Boothe and Knapke.
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We should sign BJ Mack, a 6-8, 250 pound PF from Wofford. In transfer portal as a 5th year senior, first team all conference, averaged 16 points per game and very physical.

Get him to Toledo !!!

https://woffordterriers.com/sports/mens-...-mack/7671
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Same thing I said on the other thread. Every coach competing against K for a big is going to say the same thing: he won't play you or develop you. K wouldn't play the bigs the time they needed to develop this year, last year, the year before....

K is not an offensive "genius." He has had more offense to work with than most competitors not named Kent. He's been a solid recruiter and developer of guards and wings but the offense is standard. It's a pretty stat but it means nothing if it can't get you to the NCAA or if it's losing games against FCS nobodies.

The team needs a capable coach for defense and more post development. Wash, rinse, repeat. Same thing for the last four years.

Small ball doesn't work against capable teams that can prepare for it at the level he's trying to attain: NCAAs. Last two years were very wasted opportunities. Is it likely he'll find another Shumate and Milner out of the portal? Has them on the bench? While still manning the post with the needed skill set?

Next year is K's biggest challenge in 3 years.
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(03-13-2023 06:24 AM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote:  More on Mack

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news...-programs/

Considering the list that's interested in him, I'd say no shot. But our AD did go to Wofford.
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(03-13-2023 09:13 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Same thing I said on the other thread. Every coach competing against K for a big is going to say the same thing: he won't play you or develop you. K wouldn't play the bigs the time they needed to develop this year, last year, the year before....

K is not an offensive "genius." He has had more offense to work with than most competitors not named Kent. He's been a solid recruiter and developer of guards and wings but the offense is standard. It's a pretty stat but it means nothing if it can't get you to the NCAA or if it's losing games against FCS nobodies.

The team needs a capable coach for defense and more post development. Wash, rinse, repeat. Same thing for the last four years.

Small ball doesn't work against capable teams that can prepare for it at the level he's trying to attain: NCAAs. Last two years were very wasted opportunities. Is it likely he'll find another Shumate and Milner out of the portal? Has them on the bench? While still manning the post with the needed skill set?

Next year is K's biggest challenge in 3 years.
What you said is BS about developing big guys they developed Boothe and Knapke. In fact Knapke gave tons of to Massey for his development.
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unlikely we sign a 1 year rental like Mack. Guys with 2 or 3 years of eligibility more realistic.
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(03-13-2023 12:53 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  
(03-13-2023 09:13 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Same thing I said on the other thread. Every coach competing against K for a big is going to say the same thing: he won't play you or develop you. K wouldn't play the bigs the time they needed to develop this year, last year, the year before....

K is not an offensive "genius." He has had more offense to work with than most competitors not named Kent. He's been a solid recruiter and developer of guards and wings but the offense is standard. It's a pretty stat but it means nothing if it can't get you to the NCAA or if it's losing games against FCS nobodies.

The team needs a capable coach for defense and more post development. Wash, rinse, repeat. Same thing for the last four years.

Small ball doesn't work against capable teams that can prepare for it at the level he's trying to attain: NCAAs. Last two years were very wasted opportunities. Is it likely he'll find another Shumate and Milner out of the portal? Has them on the bench? While still manning the post with the needed skill set?

Next year is K's biggest challenge in 3 years.
What you said is BS about developing big guys they developed Boothe and Knapke. In fact Knapke gave tons of to Massey for his development.

If reality is BS then so be it. See the bold faced. No skin off my nose. See you in 40 years. 03-wink
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Don’t know what some of you are thinking….this is the MAC we’re talking about! The bottom 8 teams in the conference had a combined record of
53 -91. That is what we built our 17 game win streak on. We lost to Kent twice, Ball, U of M Kansas City, East Carolina, and Marshall. If I’m right, none of these teams are in any major post season tournaments. This is not any freak….it happens every year and other higher ranking schools definitely take this into consideration when looking for a new coach. A lot is made about Dennis. He is a very good MAC player and I’m glad we have him. He did transfer down from a better conference and I wonder if had he stayed at Boise, would we be seeing the same stats. The same can be said about Sincere Carey and Xavier Castaneda. Both from higher ranked conferences .A-10 and the American. Plus, K hasn’t taken a school to the dance in 20 years! He might be a good MAC coach but that is about it!
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Notre Dame had three guys go into the portal today.
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(03-13-2023 05:38 PM)utpotts Wrote:  Notre Dame had three guys go into the portal today.

The grad guard we don't need. The five star Fr back to Syracuse I'd bet. That forward would be the space heater we could really use but why bail on ND? Sure fire starting spot as there's barely anyone left and good academics. A NE prepster, probably headed back East. If Pitino decides to move back to a big program, I imagine there will be more than a few wanting to head back East.
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(03-13-2023 04:45 PM)Somersetco Wrote:  Don’t know what some of you are thinking….this is the MAC we’re talking about! The bottom 8 teams in the conference had a combined record of
53 -91. That is what we built our 17 game win streak on. We lost to Kent twice, Ball, U of M Kansas City, East Carolina, and Marshall. If I’m right, none of these teams are in any major post season tournaments. This is not any freak….it happens every year and other higher ranking schools definitely take this into consideration when looking for a new coach. A lot is made about Dennis. He is a very good MAC player and I’m glad we have him. He did transfer down from a better conference and I wonder if had he stayed at Boise, would we be seeing the same stats. The same can be said about Sincere Carey and Xavier Castaneda. Both from higher ranked conferences .A-10 and the American. Plus, K hasn’t taken a school to the dance in 20 years! He might be a good MAC coach but that is about it!

If you believe the reports, RayJ Dennis is more than just a "very good' MAC Player who several Power 5 Teams in need of a Point Guard would love to have transfer to their programs. And to downplay Sincere Carry and Xavier Castaneda for transferring down to the MAC from The A10 and ACC respectively does not make sense to me. All they've done is lead Kent (this season) and Akron (last season) to The Big Dance. Your telling me that just because a Mark Sears plays in the MAC, he couldn't play at a Power 5 School and be a big factor. Tell that to Alabama this season!
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(03-13-2023 09:36 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  
(03-13-2023 04:45 PM)Somersetco Wrote:  Don’t know what some of you are thinking….this is the MAC we’re talking about! The bottom 8 teams in the conference had a combined record of
53 -91. That is what we built our 17 game win streak on. We lost to Kent twice, Ball, U of M Kansas City, East Carolina, and Marshall. If I’m right, none of these teams are in any major post season tournaments. This is not any freak….it happens every year and other higher ranking schools definitely take this into consideration when looking for a new coach. A lot is made about Dennis. He is a very good MAC player and I’m glad we have him. He did transfer down from a better conference and I wonder if had he stayed at Boise, would we be seeing the same stats. The same can be said about Sincere Carey and Xavier Castaneda. Both from higher ranked conferences .A-10 and the American. Plus, K hasn’t taken a school to the dance in 20 years! He might be a good MAC coach but that is about it!

If you believe the reports, RayJ Dennis is more than just a "very good' MAC Player who several Power 5 Teams in need of a Point Guard would love to have transfer to their programs. And to downplay Sincere Carry and Xavier Castaneda for transferring down to the MAC from The A10 and ACC respectively does not make sense to me. All they've done is lead Kent (this season) and Akron (last season) to The Big Dance. Your telling me that just because a Mark Sears plays in the MAC, he couldn't play at a Power 5 School and be a big factor. Tell that to Alabama this season!

I mentioned on another board: B10 guards and ball movement looks relatively indecisive compared to top MAC teams. K's players aren't generally holding the ball wondering what to do with it, once past Soph. year. Moss and Farmer are darn near complete already. That's a selling point.

Same question every sport: how to evaluate coaching MAC talent against MAC talent and how that will translate to the stronger conference.

The only question with K has been can he develop THE MAC talent to win THE MAC game. Not yet. In the B10 he's going to dance regardless. Nothing relies on having THE talent or winning THE game.

Their hiring committees are going to look at why he didn't win THE game and determine if that red lines him. They're going to determine can he recruit at the level needed to compete. Same as most are saying here, they're going to look can he recruit and develop power forwards and posts, not once every 6 years, but every year.
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