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(03-11-2023 05:28 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  12/20
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Also George Mason, Northern Iowa and Marshall coming to Savage along with a Sun Belt Conference team as part of the Home and Home MAC vs. Sun Belt Series being played next season.
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Vegas Classic

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It's going to be SUCH a different team and Edu and Dennis not 100%. WIll Jakobi or the Freshman break starting line-up? Not likely.

I'm starting Edu if he's here and if he's fully mobile or Simmons to take Milner's spot. Time for those guys to work on their outside and mid-range. Andre (who needs to be looking like a tall RJ by next season, get some lower body muscle in particular) in Shumate's. Hoping a back-up comes through portal. Guard and wing rotation as is. Farmer is going to be looking for more minutes. His quickness will be needed. Hoping he has a growth spurt in him to counter players like Payton.
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at Oakland- 11/11

George Mason- 12/2

Northern Iowa- 12/9
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Guessing Lorrentson not back next season. That is based on recent bigs with similar skill set that only lasted a year. Ball handling is suspect and only plus is 3 shooting.Hope i'm wrong and he ends up as all conf senior year!
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(03-12-2023 11:01 PM)UTfanBGalum Wrote:  Guessing Lorrentson not back next season. That is based on recent bigs with similar skill set that only lasted a year. Ball handling is suspect and only plus is 3 shooting.Hope i'm wrong and he ends up as all conf senior year!

Hss ball handing and defense is fine for the limited minutes he's been given. His motion in the rotation improved. His presence around the basket improved. Of course, same could be said of the big from last year no longer on the team. Andre is far ahead of that one still.

No one develops wholly in practice or sitting on the bench. If K had took the risk of giving him 15-20 minutes a game during season in the post and wing, and played Shumate on the wing, while Edu posted, with Milner/Moss on the other, I believe we're in the NCAAs instead of Kent.

Can only speculate. Being fair to myself, it's what I've said at the beginning of the last three seasons with K. A team needs the right metrics as much as it needs highly skilled players. That takes risk when you're not recruiting 3-4 star posts. Kent took that risk and it paid off.
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(03-13-2023 09:19 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(03-12-2023 11:01 PM)UTfanBGalum Wrote:  Guessing Lorrentson not back next season. That is based on recent bigs with similar skill set that only lasted a year. Ball handling is suspect and only plus is 3 shooting.Hope i'm wrong and he ends up as all conf senior year!

Hss ball handing and defense is fine for the limited minutes he's been given. His motion in the rotation improved. His presence around the basket improved. Of course, same could be said of the big from last year no longer on the team. Andre is far ahead of that one still.

No one develops wholly in practice or sitting on the bench. If K had took the risk of giving him 15-20 minutes a game during season in the post and wing, and played Shumate on the wing, while Edu posted, with Milner/Moss on the other, I believe we're in the NCAAs instead of Kent.

Can only speculate. Being fair to myself, it's what I've said at the beginning of the last three seasons with K. A team needs the right metrics as much as it needs highly skilled players. That takes risk when you're not recruiting 3-4 star posts. Kent took that risk and it paid off.

Most mid-major coaches don't like throwing numbers in the post; would rather rotate a bunch of wings and guards. Look at Kent's roster over the years. When they haven't had a top 3/4-caliber MAC post player getting 30-minutes a game, they've had 3-4 average guys with different skill sets rotating minutes.

Neither Hornbeak or Payton played in Nov.-Dec they way they played in Feb.-March. If they had, Kent would have won at least one of their big non-conference games. Odusippe and Gillespie were getting decent minutes inside early. Actually, don't think Payton established himself until the first (only) Toledo game.

So I agree with your point: -- No one develops wholly in practice or sitting on the bench. If K had took the risk of giving him 15-20 minutes a game during season in the post and wing, and played Shumate on the wing, while Edu posted, with Milner/Moss on the other, I believe we're in the NCAAs instead of Kent.

As a mid-major you got to be a coach willing to let the season play out, to a point ... willing to trust the players to develop, then make a down-the-stretch decision.

Take a step back and think. In Kent's case, it perhaps cost them a regular-season championship, twice.

Indeed, until Kent played Toledo last year in the regular season, they were just a .500 team searching for themselves. Then blew up the second half of the season when all the pieces fell into place (only to implode in the MAC Tournament lockerroom). Still, it made them a tough out in the MAC Tournament both years.

Matchups were an issue as noted, but that goes both ways. Toledo has always had the better offense. ALWAYS.

But that third game in three nights -- no matter which teams are playing -- almost always goes to the better defense. While the last 10 minutes became tougher for the Rockets, with defense established, and post presence established, the game turned decidedly toward Kent.

There's a lesson in there if one wishes to chew on it and swallow it down.

But that's a thought for next season. Right now, let's blow the doors off those Wolverines.
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December 30th
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(03-16-2023 05:26 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  December 30th
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I give Bob Huggins some credit for giving us this opportunity as TK has said Power 5 Schools continue to say no to scheduling The Rockets. Even if its is just a 1 one off game and not a home and home as I'm sure it is, it beats the alternative of playing a lower quality opponent!
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UT needs to be in those bigger holiday tournaments, such as the one in Maui and knock off a few power 5 programs. Butler was able to do that in the past as a member of the Horizon conference (Alaska shootout) and look where they are now, the Big East conference. Not saying the Rockets would move on to a better conference, but national name recognition as they enter the MAC league play.
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(03-16-2023 09:25 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  UT needs to be in those bigger holiday tournaments, such as the one in Maui and knock off a few power 5 programs. Butler was able to do that in the past as a member of the Horizon conference (Alaska shootout) and look where they are now, the Big East conference. Not saying the Rockets would move on to a better conference, but national name recognition as they enter the MAC league play.

TK doesn't like going west. He claims the time change is too hard for the players to adjust to. In 2015 the Rockets played in The Great Alaska Shootout but they didm't go up against any nationally ranked teams. They beat San Jose St.and Loyola (Il) before losing to Middle Tennessee
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All right, UD played this season down I think in Puerto Rico and many of the names were named recognizable power 5 teams.
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Wisconsin, one of them.
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(03-16-2023 09:25 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  UT needs to be in those bigger holiday tournaments, such as the one in Maui and knock off a few power 5 programs. Butler was able to do that in the past as a member of the Horizon conference (Alaska shootout) and look where they are now, the Big East conference. Not saying the Rockets would move on to a better conference, but national name recognition as they enter the MAC league play.

It takes two to tango.

The Maui Invitational only takes 'big name'/'name brand' programs, as they should with their history.
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Paul Biancardi has some interesting comments about MAC basketball breaking out of being a 1 bid league. He points out that the big schools won't schedule teams like Toledo and Kent so its almost impossible for them to get enough quality wins to secure an at large bid. He says the Big 10 schools will play games at home against lower tier MAC teams to fill in their schedule but they want nothing to do with the top level mid majors.

He says the teams that succeed in the NCAA tournament are teams with a good balance of offense and defense. The Rockets defense has been getting better year by year and hopefully that trend will continue while the offense continues to flourish.

https://www.audacy.com/923thefan/podcast...1561532757
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if the Big Ten won't play us, we have to keep looking. Toledo did go to KU one year, but maybe not that steep. Vandy, Tennessee, WVU, Missouri, Pitt, etc could be nice.
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How about a home and home with FAU?

Who says no?

TK could give Dusty a tour of the facilities


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Play any of the step ups to the AAC. Charlotte (we beat em last year in a neutral tourney), UAB (beat em in Barstool invite), FAU or UNT.
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