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(02-27-2023 03:15 PM)CyberBlazer Wrote:  
(02-27-2023 12:41 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I wonder how this would have played out if the victim had been a pretty blonde Natalee Holloway clone from Mountain Brook instead.

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Or if he was Joe Smith working a construction job that no one cares about and was not a high profile basketball player that will continue to make $$$ in the NBA.
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(02-27-2023 12:41 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I wonder how this would have played out if the victim had been a pretty blonde Natalee Holloway clone from Mountain Brook instead.

Yeah, well, her killer's still not convicted for murdering her. All the jail time that van der Sloot's done is for other crimes.
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https://twitter.com/ChrisMcCulleyTV/stat...4672013312

Quote:"They explained to me it was like when TSA checks you before you get on a plane and now Brandon is cleared for take off"

Geez for all the money Alabama and most importantly Alabama Athletics have, do they not have any PR or Media Training? They made him the 6th highest paid basketball coach in the nation - did they skimp on the media training funds?
Also, I don't know if his face is always like this in front of the press, but is he smirking the whole time?

Bammers were saying oh it's an MMA pre-fight check , but nope it mimics a TSA pat down which is no different than a normal pat down; both check for suspicious items and/or weapons... If they wanted to do a "clear for take off" you would mimic an air traffic control wand.
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(03-01-2023 09:55 AM)blazerblazer Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ChrisMcCulleyTV/stat...4672013312

Quote:"They explained to me it was like when TSA checks you before you get on a plane and now Brandon is cleared for take off"

Geez for all the money Alabama and most importantly Alabama Athletics have, do they not have any PR or Media Training? They made him the 6th highest paid basketball coach in the nation - did they skimp on the media training funds?
Also, I don't know if his face is always like this in front of the press, but is he smirking the whole time?

Bammers were saying oh it's an MMA pre-fight check , but nope it mimics a TSA pat down which is no different than a normal pat down; both check for suspicious items and/or weapons... If they wanted to do a "clear for take off" you would mimic an air traffic control wand.

Yes it is. He is an ugly big-eared troll with no morals.
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From Washington Post -

The police blotter that the University of Alabama calls its men’s basketball program remains more concerned about its postseason seeding than its moral responsibility. The Crimson Tide, ranked second in the nation, is steamrolling its way to a potential No. 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Nothing can stop it — not even the blood of a 23-year old mother that now stains its season.

From the outside, Alabama’s circle of trust, a group that includes Coach Nate Oats and Athletic Director Greg Byrne, appears to have followed the law to a T in response to a former player’s involvement in the shooting death of Jamea Jonae Harris. And since there is no law under which the Tuscaloosa district attorney could charge the team’s star player, Brandon Miller, for transporting the gun, Alabama has allowed him to play on. There has been no pause for Miller to reflect on the gravity of the situation, no break to allow a young man who allegedly witnessed a traumatic event a moment to sit for a game or two — and nothing to interrupt Alabama’s chances to win basketball games in March.

College sports scandals have been around since the invention of college sports. From the beginning, greasy adults have found ways to seduce student-athletes with the promise of small fortunes while more grievous crimes such as sexual assault and murder have pierced the idyllic bubble of a college campus. But what’s happening at Alabama is a tragedy with a contemporary twist.


One of the murder suspects had a clothing line. The star freshman drove a Dodge Charger, allegedly transporting the firearm that was used to kill, and weeks later he would advertise a similar muscle car to his Instagram followers. And the coach, the public-facing spokesperson of this scandal, is a multimillionaire who earns roughly 41 times more than a College of Education professor at the same public university.

This is college athletics in the 21st century: glittering with commercialism on the surface with all the slimy parts oozing underneath.

For no other reason than Darius Miles was tall, athletic and male — possessing three of the most significant qualities in the get-rich-quick scheme known as college sports — he had the ability to make money from his name, image and likeness. Before Jan. 15, Miles was the basketball player with a career average of 4.2 points per game. He was also a brand ambassador with something to sell. His red, black and white T-shirts featured his nickname, “Freak,” and sold for $39.99 each.

Now, Miles is charged with capital murder in the shooting death of Harris.

Miller, likely to be a top-five pick in the NBA draft this summer, was there that night. He was a witness, authorities say, as Michael Davis, who was a friend of Miles but did not play on the basketball team, shot Harris in the face as she sat in the passenger seat next to her boyfriend. Harris may be alive today had Darius Miles not retrieved the gun that he allegedly left in Brandon Miller’s Charger.

That tragic detail, however, did not stop Miller from announcing he had obtained a new car in early February — and encouraging others to shop at the same dealership. A website that specializes in NIL evaluations lists the car dealer as Miller’s sponsor.

“Tell them BMill sent you!” is how Miller signs off his ad.

His pitch is at least more straightforward than Oats’s reactionary statements, which always seem to be a note off and a day late. Seems that Oats can’t get through a news conference without saying something regrettable.


On the day law enforcement publicly revealed Miller’s connection to the case, Oats attempted to mitigate his player’s involvement: “Wrong spot at the wrong time.” He apologized for that statement. Earlier, when Alabama heard some inappropriate heckles from the Missouri student section — this happened a week after Miles’s arrest — Oats tried to scold the wrong people.

“Sometimes college students don’t understand the severity of things,” Oats said from his high horse following the game.

Oats didn’t extend the same standard of maturity to his own 20-year-old player. Until the team faced backlash, Miller continued his pregame tradition of spreading his arms while a teammate patted him down during introduction of the starters. On Tuesday, days after the incident, Oats handled the cleanup again and took responsibility for allowing the routine. He explained it as players mimicking a TSA check, before Miller is cleared to take flight, instead of the way many interpreted the scene Saturday: a willing fool pretending to search Miller for a weapon. Saturday night, however, Oats opened his postgame comments by saying the routine was “not appropriate” after the controversy was brought to his attention, without offering any clarification involving the TSA.

Oats didn’t seem to mind Miller’s instinctual but woefully myopic reactions during a testy road game. At South Carolina, as fans chanted in scorn, Miller tapped his forearm, suggesting to everyone watching that only ice, not awareness, coursed through his veins. Miller scored 41 points and hit the winning shot. And because Oats speaks more like a basketball coach than the well-compensated crisis manager he should be, he praised Miller for his mental toughness.

“Basketball kind of becomes a safe haven for some of these guys. They get on the floor, they can kind of lock in to what they’ve done their whole lives and get some of the outside stuff out of their mind,” Oats said after the Feb. 22 game.

The “outside stuff.” Only a man who can’t dislodge his loafer from his mouth would equate transporting a murder weapon and allegedly witnessing the death of a woman to “outside stuff.”


As the scandal continues to swirl around his program, Oats has sounded nothing like the coach who introduced himself to Alabama almost four years ago. Back then, Oats promised to bring his very own culture playbook to Alabama, a code of conduct centered on working hard, getting better each day and having standards.

“We want a culture of accountability. If I love you, and you and me are roommates, and we go back and you’re going to smoke weed, well, that’s not what’s best for you. If I really love you, I’m going to call you out for that,” Oats said and later added: “If all I do is teach you to how throw a ball through a ring, I’m wasting a lot of time. We have to develop character in our guys. I firmly believe this: The better young men you have, the better basketball team you’re going to have.”

And to build a better program, Oats brought along his love for hard hats. When he arrived in Tuscaloosa, with the intention of turning the Crimson Tide into a blue-collar team, Oats introduced the headwear prop as hackneyed motivation. Following games, one of his chosen players would get to wear it if and only if his work ethic was worthy of a construction worker paid by the hour. The hard hat now follows Alabama everywhere. But in his rehabilitation project, Oats forgot to build on his own foundations.

There is no character, no accountability in this college scandal. Only a sad tale, distorted by America’s culture of gun violence, which could cost a former college player his promising future and more importantly already cost a young mother her life. All the while, a basketball season marches on.
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Post: #107
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^^^ That's a great article. Also didn't realize that Miller bought a new vehicle AND did a commercial spot for them. Did they not think that was a good idea since his Charger was riddled with bullets? Hardhats and hard headed.
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Welp,but he's the best in the conference

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/202...-year.html

Gonzaga or some small Catholic school will beat em anyway 07-coffee3
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Pretty good article laying out the whole scenario.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...mea-harris
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That is a great story. Thanks for linking it.

"They've showed me who they are," (Jamea Harris' mother, DeCarla Heard) said. "They're not relevant. I'm not going to make the University of Alabama relevant off my daughter's name. Her life is just as important, and her potential for her life is just as important as Brandon Miller."

Kevin Scarbinsky needs to read and learn.
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(03-09-2023 01:57 PM)58-56 Wrote:  That is a great story. Thanks for linking it.

"They've showed me who they are," (Jamea Harris' mother, DeCarla Heard) said. "They're not relevant. I'm not going to make the University of Alabama relevant off my daughter's name. Her life is just as important, and her potential for her life is just as important as Brandon Miller."

Kevin Scarbinsky needs to read and learn.

Yep, and he needs to stop putting his articles behind a paywall at al.com
no reason anyone should have to pay to read something on that website..
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(03-09-2023 02:01 PM)blazerblazer Wrote:  
(03-09-2023 01:57 PM)58-56 Wrote:  That is a great story. Thanks for linking it.

"They've showed me who they are," (Jamea Harris' mother, DeCarla Heard) said. "They're not relevant. I'm not going to make the University of Alabama relevant off my daughter's name. Her life is just as important, and her potential for her life is just as important as Brandon Miller."

Kevin Scarbinsky needs to read and learn.

Yep, and he needs to stop putting his articles behind a paywall at al.com
no reason anyone should have to pay to read something on that website..

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What a weird question to ask, and I'm against Bama

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https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/202...abama.html

“How could [Darius] Miles so casually have a loaded gun sitting in the backseat of his friend’s car? It speaks to the potential of a gun culture on Alabama’s basketball team that led to the events of that fateful night.”
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(03-11-2023 08:52 AM)BTR Wrote:  https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/202...abama.html

“How could [Darius] Miles so casually have a loaded gun sitting in the backseat of his friend’s car? It speaks to the potential of a gun culture on Alabama’s basketball team that led to the events of that fateful night.”

“It has been a difficult situation,” Oats said. “We’re dealing with a criminal matter. So, taking the facts from law enforcement as they do their investigation. So, as we got the facts from them, this was a decision based on all the facts we had with obviously my boss Greg Byrne, his boss Dr. [Stuart] Bell and the Board of Trustees and everybody

We knew already that the decision to keep playing the Accessory to Murder had to come from the Trustees, but here we have Nate Oats saying the quiet part out loud and confirming it.
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This is a big ole nothing burger.

Not a thing is going to happen while this guy is helping the school go deep into the tournament and build prestige and money for the program.

i don't see any criminal issue with what he did but definitely was not representing the best interests of the university system at all and should have been removed from the team.
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(03-11-2023 09:54 AM)THE_LEGEND Wrote:  This is a big ole nothing burger.

Not a thing is going to happen while this guy is helping the school go deep into the tournament and build prestige and money for the program.

i don't see any criminal issue with what he did but definitely was not representing the best interests of the university system at all and should have been removed from the team.

That there isn't a criminal issue is also a major problem, but this isn't the political forum so I'll leave it there
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I hope there's no media circus when they come to town
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Class and tradition:

[Image: VSCIB6QC2FBBRMG3UHXCMG3R64.jpg]

There will definitely be more media attention this week. Will Leitch:

It is downright ghastly the extent to which the University of Alabama has attempted to normalize what’s happening here, simply because the school’s basketball team is so good. Jamea Jonae Harris is dead. The men indicted with her capital murder allegedly procured their gun from Alabama’s best player, who then delivered it to them minutes before the killing. Now he’s going to be a part of “One Shining Moment.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/...esque.html
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Hoo buddy that invoice from Sard Verbinnen is gonna be hefty this month.
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