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I suspect the person signing the paycheck overrides the loyalties of where you went to school

(02-22-2023 12:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I suspect the person signing the paycheck overrides the loyalties of where you went to school

And that's what I meant by "influence." I have no doubt that the people who are sizeable boosters to the athletic department are also sizeable campaign contributors...

It isn't so much about the paycheck, that comes from the state treasury. It's about the campaign contributions. Which are (supposed to be) public record.

A very sad situation for the victim's family

RIP Jamea Harris

McElroy and Cubelic

Dan Wolken

(02-22-2023 02:04 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Dan Wolken

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(02-22-2023 11:58 AM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 10:45 AM)58-56 Wrote:  To convict Miles of capital murder, there must be pre-meditation or another accompanying felony (I did not attend law school, I only covered trials as a journalist but this is my layman's understanding). I don't see the related felony (someone was killed in the course of a robbery, for example). Nor was Ms. Harris a law enforcement officer.

Killing someone in their vehicle is a capital offense. (As is killing someone from your vehicle. The statute stems from the drive-by craze of the '80s and '90s.)

13A-5-40
(a) The following are capital offenses:
...
(17) Murder committed by or through the use of a deadly weapon while the victim is in a vehicle.

Thank you. (I did recall the law enforcement addition).

(02-22-2023 02:16 PM)C-Finder Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 02:04 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Dan Wolken

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Try this -

https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/162...91300?s=20

It will be tough on the Alabama coach to discipline his team when you can literally get away with murder if you are good enough of a player. Like I said before, this will ultimately be detrimental to the team.

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Alabama’s Brandon Miller allegedly provided the handgun used in the murder of Jamea Jonae Harris, according to police.

A Tuscaloosa detective testified that Miller was contacted by former teammate Darius Miles, who is one of the two men charged with Harris’ murder. pic.twitter.com/qu08FPUjIW

— ESPN (@espn) February 21, 2023

I was SHOCKED by the comments of @AlabamaMBB Nate Oats yesterday but I am doubly SHOCKED that superstar Brandon MIller is scheduled to play tonight.Isn’t providing a gun to a teammate that was used in a murder a serious offense?

— Dick Vitale (@DickieV) February 22, 2023

Tuscaloosa Police say Alabama freshman Brandon Miller brought a teammate the gun that was used to kill a woman last month.@_NickKelly explains why Miller hasn't been charged with a crime and what is next for the basketball team. pic.twitter.com/t6Lru0m3Iy

— Outside the Lines (@OTLonESPN) February 22, 2023

The Nate Oates/Brandon Miller story is sickening
- What does Miller think is gonna happen when he brings a gun to a bad situation in the middle of the night?
- Oates is gutless..just gutless
- why do facility members stay so quiet when coaches embarrass their school

— Dan Dakich (@dandakich) February 21, 2023

The best player (Brandon Miller) on a projected No. 1 seed (Alabama) supplied a gun that became the murder weapon in the killing of a young mother.

Yikes.

Even if he's not charged with a crime, how does that not at least result in a suspension from the basketball team? https://t.co/lAfYMY4oFg

— Gary Parrish (@GaryParrishCBS) February 21, 2023

(02-22-2023 12:02 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 10:46 AM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 10:41 AM)uabblazer2012 Wrote:  The DA does have a Bs from Auburn

Yeah, but the J.D. is from UAT, trumping the Auburn BS.

Asst. DA is UAT all the way through.

No, that's never the way it goes. Loyalties always lie with the undergrad school. Now, I'm not saying that there might not be influence, what with it being Tuscaloosa and all. But there's a LOT of Auburn grads who go to UAT for law school because it's the best in the state and cheaper than Cumberland and Jones, and I assure you that doesn't turn them into bammers.

Unfounded generalization.

My undergrad school was Eckerd College. Blaze is tattooed on my arm, because I'm a Blazer, not a Triton.

I also have a good friend that went to AU for undergrad and UAT for law. She's a UAT loyalist.

we certainly don't have all the facts. but the idea that Brandon Miller would still be on the team if he was a walk on, or even a 5 minute per game type guy, is absolutely ludicrous
to try to spin it any other way that a superstar getting special treatment is crazy

https://tuscaloosathread.com/attorney-re...-shooting/

(02-22-2023 04:05 PM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 12:02 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  No, that's never the way it goes. Loyalties always lie with the undergrad school. Now, I'm not saying that there might not be influence, what with it being Tuscaloosa and all. But there's a LOT of Auburn grads who go to UAT for law school because it's the best in the state and cheaper than Cumberland and Jones, and I assure you that doesn't turn them into bammers.

Unfounded generalization.

My undergrad school was Eckerd College. Blaze is tattooed on my arm, because I'm a Blazer, not a Triton.

I also have a good friend that went to AU for undergrad and UAT for law. She's a UAT loyalist.

Fair. Probably spoke with too certain of terms. But if we're talking people who went to Auburn for undergrad and UAT for law, I'd be willing to bet 95% or more are Auburn fans.

(02-22-2023 04:32 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  https://tuscaloosathread.com/attorney-re...-shooting/

No matter if that statement is 100% true, what idiot or degenerate thinks nothing of a friend texting you to bring them a gun at midnight after being in a club? You just mindlessly hop in your car at midnight to go drive your car where your friend is so he can pick up the gun? WTF.. Hopefully more comes out about this, because his hands are not clean in this incident at all.

Also, he never "handled" the gun, but it was in his car, the shooter told him to drive it to him, and the shooter got out of his car. How is that total innocence?

ALSO also, someone can fully cooperate and still be guilty. That statement tries to make someone cooperating with police mutually exclusive of also being guilty of a crime.

(02-22-2023 05:01 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 04:32 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  https://tuscaloosathread.com/attorney-re...-shooting/

No matter if that statement is 100% true, what idiot or degenerate thinks nothing of a friend texting you to bring them a gun at midnight after being in a club? You just mindlessly hop in your car at midnight to go drive your car where your friend is so he can pick up the gun? WTF.. Hopefully more comes out about this, because his hands are not clean in this incident at all.

Also, he never "handled" the gun, but it was in his car, the shooter told him to drive it to him, and the shooter got out of his car. How is that total innocence?

ALSO also, someone can fully cooperate and still be guilty. That statement tries to make someone cooperating with police mutually exclusive of also being guilty of a crime.

Didn't his car cause the victim's car to be blocked in as well?

(02-22-2023 05:31 PM)jaymay2525 Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 05:01 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(02-22-2023 04:32 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  https://tuscaloosathread.com/attorney-re...-shooting/

No matter if that statement is 100% true, what idiot or degenerate thinks nothing of a friend texting you to bring them a gun at midnight after being in a club? You just mindlessly hop in your car at midnight to go drive your car where your friend is so he can pick up the gun? WTF.. Hopefully more comes out about this, because his hands are not clean in this incident at all.

Also, he never "handled" the gun, but it was in his car, the shooter told him to drive it to him, and the shooter got out of his car. How is that total innocence?

ALSO also, someone can fully cooperate and still be guilty. That statement tries to make someone cooperating with police mutually exclusive of also being guilty of a crime.

Didn't his car cause the victim's car to be blocked in as well?

Nope, his car was parked on Grace Street

(02-21-2023 05:35 PM)jaymay2525 Wrote:  The DA came out and said there was no crime to charge Miller with. Not sure how that is, but maybe Miller is going to turn witness on the non-basketball player and this was part of a plea (no charges, for testimony)...who knows

Ok, he didn't do something that he could be prosecuted for. Instead of a late night booty call he got a "Hey, buddy, can you bring my pistol down to the club?" at 1:30 a.m. and did so instead of saying "Hey man, are you sure that's a smart thing to do?".

You don't have to break the law to be suspended from the team for your actions. The coach had tools he chose not to use.

(02-22-2023 06:07 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 05:35 PM)jaymay2525 Wrote:  The DA came out and said there was no crime to charge Miller with. Not sure how that is, but maybe Miller is going to turn witness on the non-basketball player and this was part of a plea (no charges, for testimony)...who knows

Ok, he didn't do something that he could be prosecuted for. Instead of a late night booty call he got a "Hey, buddy, can you bring my pistol down to the club?" at 1:30 a.m. and did so instead of saying "Hey man, are you sure that's a smart thing to do?".

You don't have to break the law to be suspended from the team for your actions. The coach had tools he chose not to use.

Playing college basketball is a privilege, one suspended regularly for "violations of team rules." To put this in perspective, Eric Gaines has lost more floor time for showing up late to a meeting than Brandon Miller has for helping to shoot someone in the face.

Complete silence from the faculty, university president and Board of Trustees indicates approval and support of Nate Oats' words and actions. The University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa has made a profound statement of where its values lie.

Their coach is an angry, big-eared, elf-hobbit, troglodyte creature lookin ass dude too