(01-25-2023 12:14 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 12:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 11:25 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 11:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  EMU doesn’t have a player averaging more than 2.8 assists per game, and as a team only averages 9 per game. That doesn’t sound like a squad trying to get him shots… it sounds like a dude taking shots. They rank 360 of the 363 teams in major college basketball in assists per game. They were bad last year, yet they were still better without him.

Have you considered that making it a priority to get the ball into his hands isn't necessarily going to always yield an assist? Regarding the nine assists they do log, where do you think the ball is going the majority of the time?

EMU has made a total of 515 shots & have but 190 total assists on those made shots… roughly 36%.

For comparisons sake, Memphis has 573 made shots with 315 total assists… meaning 55% of our made buckets come off a pass.

EMU watches Emoni shoot.

Again, do you understand that feeding him the ball will not always result in an assist? If they pass him the ball and it doesn't immediately result in points scored, even if he does eventually score while in possession of said ball, then it's not an assist per the stats. That doesn't mean the game plan isn't to try and get Bates shots, which is what you asserted above.

They give Emoni the ball. They clear out. He shoots & misses 60% of the time. Emoni is happy. His team, on the other hand, is worse this year than they were last year without him; and they rank 3rd to last in the NCAA in assists per game. I’m sure they are all enjoying the show.

(01-25-2023 12:28 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  They give Emoni the ball. They clear out. He shoots & misses 60% of the time. Emoni is happy. His team, on the other hand, is worse this year than they were last year without him; and they rank 3rd to last in the NCAA in assists per game. I’m sure they are all enjoying the show.

I don't disagree and that sounds like a game plan that involves trying to maximize Bates's shooting opportunities if I ever saw one. I'm sure his father is thrilled. If nothing else, it's garnered the team more national media attention, so maybe that was worth it to the school. Glad he's not a Tiger this year.

never heard of her before

(01-25-2023 11:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 10:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 10:33 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Kid got what he wanted-

Unlimited shots
Doesn’t have to play D
Doesn’t matter to him they’re 4-16

Sounds like he is NBA ready right now. Wonder if his dad has gone into the locker room to cuss out Heath yet. Must not have since EB hasn’t developed any sudden back issues like when that happened last season.

I've watched a few of his games. His teammates are always looking to get the ball to him. It's not a vibe where someone is a ballhog who is pissing off the rest of the team. He isn't demanding the ball all the time, but his teammates mostly don't even try to score.

When he was with us, forcing shots, you could see the frustration from the other players, with good reason. It isn't like that for him now.

EMU doesn’t have a player averaging more than 2.8 assists per game, and as a team only averages 9 per game. That doesn’t sound like a squad trying to get him shots… it sounds like a dude taking shots. They rank 360 of the 363 teams in major college basketball in assists per game. They were bad last year, yet they were still better without him.

All I'm saying is that seemingly unlike you, I've actually watched some of their games. EB passes the ball and actually often moves quite well without it. The other players don't look for their shot, can't beat their man off of the dribble and are always looking for him when they have the ball.

Kennedy, McCadden and Franklin (who I am not criticizing) are playing 62 minutes per game, putting up 19.5 points, 2.8 assists, shooting 44.4% from the field, 31.1% from outside, and 57.4% from the free throw line.

Last year they played roughly 90 minutes, put up 45 points, shot the same 44%, 28% from outside, 68% from the line and had 7 assists and 9 turnovers.

Last year Franklin put up 15.7 shots per game, had 2.5 assists and put up the most 3 pointers on his team, even though he was 6th in 3 point field goal percentage at 29.7%. Is he a ballhog?

Nope. You do what you have to do. Without EB, Eastern Michigan wouldn't score at all. If Franklin tried putting up 16 shots per game here, he wouldn't see the court; same for EB if he was here.

(01-25-2023 01:49 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 11:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 10:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 10:33 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Kid got what he wanted-

Unlimited shots
Doesn’t have to play D
Doesn’t matter to him they’re 4-16

Sounds like he is NBA ready right now. Wonder if his dad has gone into the locker room to cuss out Heath yet. Must not have since EB hasn’t developed any sudden back issues like when that happened last season.

I've watched a few of his games. His teammates are always looking to get the ball to him. It's not a vibe where someone is a ballhog who is pissing off the rest of the team. He isn't demanding the ball all the time, but his teammates mostly don't even try to score.

When he was with us, forcing shots, you could see the frustration from the other players, with good reason. It isn't like that for him now.

EMU doesn’t have a player averaging more than 2.8 assists per game, and as a team only averages 9 per game. That doesn’t sound like a squad trying to get him shots… it sounds like a dude taking shots. They rank 360 of the 363 teams in major college basketball in assists per game. They were bad last year, yet they were still better without him.

All I'm saying is that seemingly unlike you, I've actually watched some of their games. EB passes the ball and actually often moves quite well without it. The other players don't look for their shot, can't beat their man off of the dribble and are always looking for him when they have the ball.

Kennedy, McCadden and Franklin (who I am not criticizing) are playing 62 minutes per game, putting up 19.5 points, 2.8 assists, shooting 44.4% from the field, 31.1% from outside, and 57.4% from the free throw line.

Last year they played roughly 90 minutes, put up 45 points, shot the same 44%, 28% from outside, 68% from the line and had 7 assists and 9 turnovers.

Last year Franklin put up 15.7 shots per game, had 2.5 assists and put up the most 3 pointers on his team, even though he was 6th in 3 point field goal percentage at 29.7%. Is he a ballhog?

Nope. You do what you have to do. Without EB, Eastern Michigan wouldn't score at all. If Franklin tried putting up 16 shots per game here, he wouldn't see the court; same for EB if he was here.

You're approaching this all wrong. Davis is the ballhog and the last person who should be taking any shots.

(01-24-2023 09:24 PM)memphis mania Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:21 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:13 PM)memphis mania Wrote:  No, Bates would not be averaging 23 for Memphis like he is right now, but let's not pretend this team couldn't use his scoring prowess. The problem last year wasn't Bates, it was the backlog at his position with the likes of Lester and Nolley that caused tension. This year it would have set up much better for him. Personally im fine with him not on the team, but again, its a mistake to pretend he wouldn't be a net positive for this team this year.

Nobody's pretending anything. He's a superstar for a team that's #341 in the NET. He's putting up those numbers because of two primary factors: the competition has been overwhelmingly poor (with few exceptions) and they constantly feed him the ball because they don't have better options. Surely you don't think he would be nearly as effective against consistently better competition do you, even if that team let him ball hog the way he does at Eastern Michigan?

This is how their season (and level of competition) has looked thus far:

Bates would have been more effective than Kennedy and Franklin are now for our team. Not sure how you could argue that. Like I said, he wouldn't average 20, but he would have provided a legitimate outside threat. Do I think he would be some all time game changer for us? No, but its silly to dismiss him like he would have been complete crap

You are way undervaluing how players view themselves and fit into a team. Franklin, McCadden and Kennedy all recognize they are role players and are willing to be just that. Bates never would have accepted being a role player and once again this year completely disrupted team chemistry.

(01-24-2023 09:18 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 08:58 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Finished with 43 0n 15-23 shooting. 9 threes

Team lost by 5

Emoni found what he needed… a team not concerned about winning but focused on getting him lots of shots.

Bates 15.05 shots per game -----------Davis 15.4

Bates 1.1 assists per game ------------Davis 5.8

(01-25-2023 03:55 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:18 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 08:58 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Finished with 43 0n 15-23 shooting. 9 threes

Team lost by 5

Emoni found what he needed… a team not concerned about winning but focused on getting him lots of shots.

Bates 15.05 shots per game -----------Davis 15.4

Bates 1.1 assists per game ------------Davis 5.8

(01-25-2023 04:02 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 03:55 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:18 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 08:58 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Finished with 43 0n 15-23 shooting. 9 threes

Team lost by 5

Emoni found what he needed… a team not concerned about winning but focused on getting him lots of shots.

Bates 15.05 shots per game -----------Davis 15.4

Bates 1.1 assists per game ------------Davis 5.8

I knew the abuse of hyphens would assist with the communication difficulties!

Bates has some talent but his dad was a pain.

The kid needs a few years of college which his dad probably wont allow, as his game still needs a lot of work.

He is young so he has time but he has been fast tracked. There is a team aspect to basketball that Emoni needs to learn.

(01-25-2023 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:39 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:41 AM)passat25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night.

I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..

Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.

Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

Quote:Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are.

You are as usual, being dishonest. Boogie had threatened to go home starting during his freshman season. Everyone (even you) knows this.

Here are Baugh's stats before and after Lomax' injury.

17 Games Before Lomax Injury
17.9 Minutes
3.5 Points
2.3 Assists
1.6 Turnovers
44.4% Field Goal
35.7% 3 Point (14 in 17 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
68.8% Free Throws

9 Games After Lomax Injury
22.8 Minutes
2.7 Points
2.0 Assists
1.0 Turnovers
35.7% Field Goal
0.0% 3 Point (5 attempts in 9 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
66.7% Free Throws

Baugh had 9 games without having to supposedly look over his shoulder for Lomax, and did worse with the additional playing time. Lomax played 22.7 minutes per game for the season, and that is based on my calculations not including Mississippi State, where he played 1 minute at the end of the game.

For 4 years you have constantly crapped on Lomax. During his recruitment you constantly told EVERYONE that they were IDIOTS for thinking that Lomax wasn't going to be a great point guard his entire career. Apparently high school rankings were for the birds and you knew better.

To summarize.

- During his recruitment, telling everyone Lomax was going to be a star
- During his entire career, relentlessly putting Lomax down
- Claiming Baugh didn't get an opportunity here, when he played 20 minutes per game as a freshman and sophmore.
- For his Memphis career, Baugh averaged less than 4 points and around 2.5 assists per game
- He was even worse AFTER Lomax got hurt

So that's where we are. You have had this explained to you dozens of times.

Not only that...
The 2019-20 season:
sophomore Lomax had 4 starts and avg 24 minutes
freshman Baugh had 25 and avg 21 minutes
freshman Boogie had 27 starts and avg 25 minutes

The next year:
Lomax had 4 starts and avg 22 minutes
Baugh had 4 starts and avg 20 minutes
Boogie had 15 starts and avg 23 minutes

The guys had opportunities.

(01-24-2023 10:29 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 10:19 PM)Crazier Wrote:  I wonder what NBA team is going to take a risk on him. He can score but he is not a winner. Eastern Michigan is 4-16.

Put him on a two-way and park him in the G League. I'm sure a team is willing to take that gamble for a 6-10" guard who can handle the ball and shoot from the arc. If he goes undrafted, test the waters with an Exhibit 10.

I agree. He maybe a better pro. If I'm a struggling franchise I would take a risk.

(01-25-2023 09:29 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 10:29 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 10:19 PM)Crazier Wrote:  I wonder what NBA team is going to take a risk on him. He can score but he is not a winner. Eastern Michigan is 4-16.

Put him on a two-way and park him in the G League. I'm sure a team is willing to take that gamble for a 6-10" guard who can handle the ball and shoot from the arc. If he goes undrafted, test the waters with an Exhibit 10.

I agree. He maybe a better pro. If I'm a struggling franchise I would take a risk.

Yeah. To me the only team that comes to mind right now are the Spurs, but I don't think he's the kind of player Popovich would want. Or maybe he's the coach Bates needs.

(01-25-2023 03:53 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:24 PM)memphis mania Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:21 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:13 PM)memphis mania Wrote:  No, Bates would not be averaging 23 for Memphis like he is right now, but let's not pretend this team couldn't use his scoring prowess. The problem last year wasn't Bates, it was the backlog at his position with the likes of Lester and Nolley that caused tension. This year it would have set up much better for him. Personally im fine with him not on the team, but again, its a mistake to pretend he wouldn't be a net positive for this team this year.

Nobody's pretending anything. He's a superstar for a team that's #341 in the NET. He's putting up those numbers because of two primary factors: the competition has been overwhelmingly poor (with few exceptions) and they constantly feed him the ball because they don't have better options. Surely you don't think he would be nearly as effective against consistently better competition do you, even if that team let him ball hog the way he does at Eastern Michigan?

This is how their season (and level of competition) has looked thus far:

Bates would have been more effective than Kennedy and Franklin are now for our team. Not sure how you could argue that. Like I said, he wouldn't average 20, but he would have provided a legitimate outside threat. Do I think he would be some all time game changer for us? No, but its silly to dismiss him like he would have been complete crap

You are way undervaluing how players view themselves and fit into a team. Franklin, McCadden and Kennedy all recognize they are role players and are willing to be just that. Bates never would have accepted being a role player and once again this year completely disrupted team chemistry.

We don't know that. Franklin has dialed it down.

(01-25-2023 03:55 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:18 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 08:58 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Finished with 43 0n 15-23 shooting. 9 threes

Team lost by 5

Emoni found what he needed… a team not concerned about winning but focused on getting him lots of shots.

Bates 15.05 shots per game -----------Davis 15.4

Bates 1.1 assists per game ------------Davis 5.8

Simple Jack.

"Your boy is different."

(01-25-2023 07:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:39 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:41 AM)passat25 Wrote:  

(01-24-2023 09:27 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night.

I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..

Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.

Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

Quote:Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are.

You are as usual, being dishonest. Boogie had threatened to go home starting during his freshman season. Everyone (even you) knows this.

Here are Baugh's stats before and after Lomax' injury.

17 Games Before Lomax Injury
17.9 Minutes
3.5 Points
2.3 Assists
1.6 Turnovers
44.4% Field Goal
35.7% 3 Point (14 in 17 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
68.8% Free Throws

9 Games After Lomax Injury
22.8 Minutes
2.7 Points
2.0 Assists
1.0 Turnovers
35.7% Field Goal
0.0% 3 Point (5 attempts in 9 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
66.7% Free Throws

Baugh had 9 games without having to supposedly look over his shoulder for Lomax, and did worse with the additional playing time. Lomax played 22.7 minutes per game for the season, and that is based on my calculations not including Mississippi State, where he played 1 minute at the end of the game.

For 4 years you have constantly crapped on Lomax. During his recruitment you constantly told EVERYONE that they were IDIOTS for thinking that Lomax wasn't going to be a great point guard his entire career. Apparently high school rankings were for the birds and you knew better.

To summarize.

- During his recruitment, telling everyone Lomax was going to be a star
- During his entire career, relentlessly putting Lomax down
- Claiming Baugh didn't get an opportunity here, when he played 20 minutes per game as a freshman and sophmore.
- For his Memphis career, Baugh averaged less than 4 points and around 2.5 assists per game
- He was even worse AFTER Lomax got hurt

So that's where we are. You have had this explained to you dozens of times.

Not only that...
The 2019-20 season:
sophomore Lomax had 4 starts and avg 24 minutes
freshman Baugh had 25 and avg 21 minutes
freshman Boogie had 27 starts and avg 25 minutes

The next year:
Lomax had 4 starts and avg 22 minutes
Baugh had 4 starts and avg 20 minutes
Boogie had 15 starts and avg 23 minutes

The guys had opportunities.

Apparently better opportunities or development since & I'm thinking neither Boogie's current coach or Baugh's would trade them for Alo.

(01-25-2023 10:23 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:39 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 01:41 AM)passat25 Wrote:  I still miss Baugh.. He was a good kid, Penny ruined him.. and then pushed him out..

Boogie??? That kid was home sick all his time at Memphis.. We don't need players who miss his mama, his dog, his homies, his hood, etc.

Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

Quote:Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are.

You are as usual, being dishonest. Boogie had threatened to go home starting during his freshman season. Everyone (even you) knows this.

Here are Baugh's stats before and after Lomax' injury.

17 Games Before Lomax Injury
17.9 Minutes
3.5 Points
2.3 Assists
1.6 Turnovers
44.4% Field Goal
35.7% 3 Point (14 in 17 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
68.8% Free Throws

9 Games After Lomax Injury
22.8 Minutes
2.7 Points
2.0 Assists
1.0 Turnovers
35.7% Field Goal
0.0% 3 Point (5 attempts in 9 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
66.7% Free Throws

Baugh had 9 games without having to supposedly look over his shoulder for Lomax, and did worse with the additional playing time. Lomax played 22.7 minutes per game for the season, and that is based on my calculations not including Mississippi State, where he played 1 minute at the end of the game.

For 4 years you have constantly crapped on Lomax. During his recruitment you constantly told EVERYONE that they were IDIOTS for thinking that Lomax wasn't going to be a great point guard his entire career. Apparently high school rankings were for the birds and you knew better.

To summarize.

- During his recruitment, telling everyone Lomax was going to be a star
- During his entire career, relentlessly putting Lomax down
- Claiming Baugh didn't get an opportunity here, when he played 20 minutes per game as a freshman and sophmore.
- For his Memphis career, Baugh averaged less than 4 points and around 2.5 assists per game
- He was even worse AFTER Lomax got hurt

So that's where we are. You have had this explained to you dozens of times.

Not only that...
The 2019-20 season:
sophomore Lomax had 4 starts and avg 24 minutes
freshman Baugh had 25 and avg 21 minutes
freshman Boogie had 27 starts and avg 25 minutes

The next year:
Lomax had 4 starts and avg 22 minutes
Baugh had 4 starts and avg 20 minutes
Boogie had 15 starts and avg 23 minutes

The guys had opportunities.

Apparently better opportunities or development since & I'm thinking neither Boogie's current coach or Baugh's would trade them for Alo.

Very different players - all 3. No one except you is comparing Baugh & Boogie to Lomax - in a thread about Emoni.

(01-26-2023 09:34 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 10:23 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 08:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(01-25-2023 07:39 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

Quote:Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are.

You are as usual, being dishonest. Boogie had threatened to go home starting during his freshman season. Everyone (even you) knows this.

Here are Baugh's stats before and after Lomax' injury.

17 Games Before Lomax Injury
17.9 Minutes
3.5 Points
2.3 Assists
1.6 Turnovers
44.4% Field Goal
35.7% 3 Point (14 in 17 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
68.8% Free Throws

9 Games After Lomax Injury
22.8 Minutes
2.7 Points
2.0 Assists
1.0 Turnovers
35.7% Field Goal
0.0% 3 Point (5 attempts in 9 games, the exact thing people complain about Lomax)
66.7% Free Throws

Baugh had 9 games without having to supposedly look over his shoulder for Lomax, and did worse with the additional playing time. Lomax played 22.7 minutes per game for the season, and that is based on my calculations not including Mississippi State, where he played 1 minute at the end of the game.

For 4 years you have constantly crapped on Lomax. During his recruitment you constantly told EVERYONE that they were IDIOTS for thinking that Lomax wasn't going to be a great point guard his entire career. Apparently high school rankings were for the birds and you knew better.

To summarize.

- During his recruitment, telling everyone Lomax was going to be a star
- During his entire career, relentlessly putting Lomax down
- Claiming Baugh didn't get an opportunity here, when he played 20 minutes per game as a freshman and sophmore.
- For his Memphis career, Baugh averaged less than 4 points and around 2.5 assists per game
- He was even worse AFTER Lomax got hurt

So that's where we are. You have had this explained to you dozens of times.

Not only that...
The 2019-20 season:
sophomore Lomax had 4 starts and avg 24 minutes
freshman Baugh had 25 and avg 21 minutes
freshman Boogie had 27 starts and avg 25 minutes

The next year:
Lomax had 4 starts and avg 22 minutes
Baugh had 4 starts and avg 20 minutes
Boogie had 15 starts and avg 23 minutes

The guys had opportunities.

Apparently better opportunities or development since & I'm thinking neither Boogie's current coach or Baugh's would trade them for Alo.

Very different players - all 3. No one except you is comparing Baugh & Boogie to Lomax - in a thread about Emoni.

I simply made the statement, "Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night", which was a true statement germane to the fact that other GUARDS previously at Memphis were also having a good year" (but it didn't require a separate thread). You took that statement and turned that into a statistical presentation of performance two years ago at Memphis, which has nothing to do with my statement or current performance. And many think all three of the departed guards could have possibly made our current team better had they stayed, been developed & given the opportunities they have at their new schools (although I have my doubts Bates could/would ever be a team player but there should be no doubt we could use his perimeter shooting if it came without his negatives).

(01-26-2023 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I simply made the statement, "Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night", which was a true statement germane to the fact that other GUARDS previously at Memphis were also having a good year" (but it didn't require a separate thread). You took that statement and turned that into a statistical presentation of performance two years ago at Memphis, which has nothing to do with my statement or current performance. And many think all three of the departed guards could have possibly made our current team better had they stayed, been developed & given the opportunities they have at their new schools (although I have my doubts Bates could/would ever be a team player but there should be no doubt we could use his perimeter shooting if it came without his negatives).

Nobody believes your nonsense. You were using it as yet another vehicle to take a dig at Penny and the team. If you cared about honesty, you would have mentioned that you immediately followed it up with:

(01-25-2023 07:39 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

So stop pretending and trying to play the innocent.

(01-26-2023 10:10 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(01-26-2023 09:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I simply made the statement, "Not just Bates having a good year, there's Boogie at USC having another good year & Baugh at TCU who is an integral part of a good TCU team that beat Kansas the other night", which was a true statement germane to the fact that other GUARDS previously at Memphis were also having a good year" (but it didn't require a separate thread). You took that statement and turned that into a statistical presentation of performance two years ago at Memphis, which has nothing to do with my statement or current performance. And many think all three of the departed guards could have possibly made our current team better had they stayed, been developed & given the opportunities they have at their new schools (although I have my doubts Bates could/would ever be a team player but there should be no doubt we could use his perimeter shooting if it came without his negatives).

Nobody believes your nonsense. You were using it as yet another vehicle to take a dig at Penny and the team. If you cared about honesty, you would have mentioned that you immediately followed it up with:

(01-25-2023 07:39 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Home always looks better when you are stuck playing behind guys that you know aren't as good as you are. I'm thinking Boogie & Baugh would have been a fine Memphis backcourt if they had been given the minutes they have received on their current teams - they've proven themselves with PT.

So stop pretending and trying to play the innocent.

Maybe you ought to advertise as a psychic - naw, word would get around you have no idea what you're talking about & you'd have no customers. And I didn't "follow up", I replied to a comment.