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RE: SMU Game thread
@SMU: 1-8
ECU: 4-11
Houston: 2-10
@Wichita: 1-9
@Temple: 5-13
Tulane: 5-13
Detroit: 4-13
Last 7 games DeJulius is 22-77 from the field. I hope its a slump and not Father Time coming for DDJ
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 06:22 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote: Nothing about Lahkin’s decision is even remotely a good idea. If he did hit the rim, SMU would have gotten the rebound closer to mid court than if he lost would have shot and missed normally.
Between Vik, Davenport’s quick trigger, and Nolley dribbling into nowhere and in turning it over in frustration—-Just some real loser plays down the stretch by important guys. What does that say about SMU
My best guess is Lakhin thought we were up by one and not by two. Up one there's an argument to be made for missing on purpose, if you make both it gives them the best chance of hitting a game tying three. If you miss, it's almost impossible to rebound the ball and get a good shot up in 1.2 seconds. And there's no advantage to making the first FT either, so might as well miss the first one and try to catch them by surprise (making the tiny chance of them getting shot off after the rebound even smaller).
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 06:30 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote: @SMU: 1-8
ECU: 4-11
Houston: 2-10
@Wichita: 1-9
@Temple: 5-13
Tulane: 5-13
Detroit: 4-13
Last 7 games DeJulius is 22-77 from the field. I hope its a slump and not Father Time coming for DDJ
Father Time coming for a 23 year old? Yeah, he's way off on his shooting, but has elevated his impact in other ways.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 07:11 PM)geef Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:30 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote: @SMU: 1-8
ECU: 4-11
Houston: 2-10
@Wichita: 1-9
@Temple: 5-13
Tulane: 5-13
Detroit: 4-13
Last 7 games DeJulius is 22-77 from the field. I hope its a slump and not Father Time coming for DDJ
Father Time coming for a 23 year old? Yeah, he's way off on his shooting, but has elevated his impact in other ways.
He has been especially bad shooting on the road.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 06:27 PM)skyblade Wrote: Call me crazy, but I thought this was one of the more promising wins I've seen this season. It's the first game in quite some time that we've shot poorly and still won the game.
We hustled, dominated the glass, played good defense. Lakhin is starting to turn into a rim protector, 2 blocks shy of a triple double.
But even with DDJ, Davenport and Lakhin having bad games on the offensive end. Nolley and MAW were able to step up and carry the load. We are showing that we've got 5 guys who can provide us scoring punch in any given game. It's a lot better than relying on two guys last year.
Sure I could do without the late game boneheaded plays by Davenport, Nolley and Lakhin. I could do without the 17 TO's. But was the closest we've looked in a while to UC basketball, play defense, defend the interior, beat them on the boards and win with effort over scoring. We need to win when the shots aren't falling and tonight we did.
2 block and 4 points*
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RE: SMU Game thread
Plenty to criticize, but that was an old school Bearcats, gut it out on the road when you aren't scoring, win.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 06:15 PM)skyblade Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:11 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: Coach got too cute trying to have Lahkin miss that shot on purpose. Actually makes no sense at all.
It's hard to imagine why Wes would tell him to miss. I think that might be entirely on Lakhin. It can make sense to miss on the second FT in some situations. But in this case there was no reason to purposefully miss either.
I have a hard time believing ANY player would try to intentionally miss a free throw without being instructed to do so from the bench.
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RE: SMU Game thread
This is a me problem not a they problem...this team bugs the hell out of me to watch way too often.
Some teams good or bad you go to the mat for. For some reason this one makes me want switch channels even when they win.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 08:15 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:15 PM)skyblade Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:11 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: Coach got too cute trying to have Lahkin miss that shot on purpose. Actually makes no sense at all.
It's hard to imagine why Wes would tell him to miss. I think that might be entirely on Lakhin. It can make sense to miss on the second FT in some situations. But in this case there was no reason to purposefully miss either.
I have a hard time believing ANY player would try to intentionally miss a free throw without being instructed to do so from the bench.
I can see the logic, although I don't think the logic was Vic's. There 1.2 secs on the clock, SMU is out of timeouts and the clock starts as soon as the ball hits the rim. Time expires during the scrum for the ball, game over. Ball doesn't hit the rim, clock doesn't start SMU has time to set up for a desperation shot. Not what Wes wanted.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 09:29 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: This is a me problem not a they problem...this team bugs the hell out of me to watch way too often.
Some teams good or bad you go to the mat for. For some reason this one makes me want switch channels even when they win.
I'm a pretty pessimistic fan but for whatever reason I didn't ever get the feeling we were going to lose today.
If it wasn't for some late self-inflicted calamity on our end, I thought we deserved to hold on and win by multiple baskets.
I'd much rather underperform and win ugly than digest the crap we had to see last year where 30% of our minutes went to Saunders, Madsen, and Koval.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 09:49 PM)chatcat Wrote: (01-14-2023 08:15 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:15 PM)skyblade Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:11 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: Coach got too cute trying to have Lahkin miss that shot on purpose. Actually makes no sense at all.
It's hard to imagine why Wes would tell him to miss. I think that might be entirely on Lakhin. It can make sense to miss on the second FT in some situations. But in this case there was no reason to purposefully miss either.
I have a hard time believing ANY player would try to intentionally miss a free throw without being instructed to do so from the bench.
I can see the logic, although I don't think the logic was Vic's. There 1.2 secs on the clock, SMU is out of timeouts and the clock starts as soon as the ball hits the rim. Time expires during the scrum for the ball, game over. Ball doesn't hit the rim, clock doesn't start SMU has time to set up for a desperation shot. Not what Wes wanted.
Clock starts when someone touches it.
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RE: SMU Game thread
Adams-Woods emerging as a legit 3 point threat and better overall offensive player was huge today. This is a game that they lose last year with no Nolley and an ineffective MAW.
The Lakhin missed free throw at the end of the game was one of the dumber things I've ever seen in a basketball game. Hopefully it was his decision and he was just confused. To his credit, he was a beast on defense today.
Nolley should be and should have been the focus of the offense from the get go this year. He is by far the most gifted offensive player on the team. He should be taking a bigger percentage of the shots.
Skillings and Reed both are getting better and show signs of what is to come. Both are going to be great Bearcats if they stick around.
It was a weird game. UC could not get over the 7 point hump. I think if they had ever stretched it to 10 or 12 they would have cruised.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 08:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Plenty to criticize, but that was an old school Bearcats, gut it out on the road when you aren't scoring, win.
I could appreciate that if SMU weren’t 6-12
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RE: SMU Game thread
SMU defended DeJulius/UC like Houston did by double teaming him beyond the 3 point line. He's been a good player for UC but his offensive skills are limited and taller defenders give him trouble.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 11:28 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote: (01-14-2023 08:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Plenty to criticize, but that was an old school Bearcats, gut it out on the road when you aren't scoring, win.
I could appreciate that if SMU weren’t 6-12
Winning on the road is hard. I think kenpom had uc by 5 in this game. Gutting out a win when the offense isn't there is something this program hasn't done in a few years
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 06:48 PM)skyblade Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:22 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote: Nothing about Lahkin’s decision is even remotely a good idea. If he did hit the rim, SMU would have gotten the rebound closer to mid court than if he lost would have shot and missed normally.
Between Vik, Davenport’s quick trigger, and Nolley dribbling into nowhere and in turning it over in frustration—-Just some real loser plays down the stretch by important guys. What does that say about SMU
My best guess is Lakhin thought we were up by one and not by two. Up one there's an argument to be made for missing on purpose, if you make both it gives them the best chance of hitting a game tying three. If you miss, it's almost impossible to rebound the ball and get a good shot up in 1.2 seconds. And there's no advantage to making the first FT either, so might as well miss the first one and try to catch them by surprise (making the tiny chance of them getting shot off after the rebound even smaller).
The strategy was extremely dumb, but it looked like he did hit the underside of the rim (or like the metal spring box that is part of the rim)? The ball went straight down. Refs shouldn't have blown the whistle, I don't think. Or did they rule that it hit the bottom of the backboard underneath the basket?
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-14-2023 07:11 PM)geef Wrote: (01-14-2023 06:30 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote: @SMU: 1-8
ECU: 4-11
Houston: 2-10
@Wichita: 1-9
@Temple: 5-13
Tulane: 5-13
Detroit: 4-13
Last 7 games DeJulius is 22-77 from the field. I hope its a slump and not Father Time coming for DDJ
Father Time coming for a 23 year old? Yeah, he's way off on his shooting, but has elevated his impact in other ways.
Nearly all of DDJ's shots are low-percentage. He's been hitting them at a much higher rate than prior years, and that's probably just not going to last.
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RE: SMU Game thread
Looking ahead on the schedule, it appears this team can record a winning season and has a realistic possibility of winning 19 games (or more) before the AAC Tourney. If so, that's real progress and certainly more encouraging than what we might have expected earlier this season.
Did Reed not play yesterday? I don't recall seeing him on the floor and with some of the shooting troubles we're seeing right now for JD and DeJulius it seems there should be some minutes available.
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RE: SMU Game thread
Reed played briefly against SMU, but was not a factor. Reed seems to be a better shooter than Skillings, but is not as athletic. Skillings has potential, but needs to slow down. His body is going three times faster than his brain. His defense is, at this stage, Davenport-level bad. Good news is it’s likely to get better, as hopefully it can’t be worse than JD’s and he has good intensity.
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RE: SMU Game thread
(01-15-2023 09:30 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: (01-14-2023 11:28 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote: (01-14-2023 08:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Plenty to criticize, but that was an old school Bearcats, gut it out on the road when you aren't scoring, win.
I could appreciate that if SMU weren’t 6-12
Winning on the road is hard. I think kenpom had uc by 5 in this game. Gutting out a win when the offense isn't there is something this program hasn't done in a few years
It is.
But SMU frighin' stinks.
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