(01-13-2023 08:29 AM)eku05 Wrote: Quote:SUU’s AD was at Nevada when they were already FBS. I really doubt he will be able to get funding in 2 years for stadium expansion. You know, since the goal is “2025”. Does SUU even sell out their stadium for football games? Does any WAC/ASun school sellout their games?
I'll say it again...
People continue to apply the standard of what would have to happen to be invited by and compete immediately with existing FBS schools. I get it, no one has done it this way before, so people have no way to mentally approach it except for the way they always have up until now.
We're moving as a group, and while we don't know all of the specifics yet, here's a possible way schools might schedule when this happens...
-9 conference games (with ten teams we could play a full round robin for as long as it suits us)
-2 P5 "money" games (many of us already do this, EKU plays two P5s next year
-1 home game against a weak FCS program
So that's potentially ten game against teams that are in the same boat as you (or in a smaller boat). The point is that these programs can grow together gradually. The pressure to try to somehow do all of your ramping up for FBS while still playing FCS isn't there to the same degree in this kind of scenario.
So, no. No one things that everything SUU ultimately needs will be done in two years. But what you're missing is that it doesn't need to be if this plan goes forward as we all intend.
Also, with regard to the "sellout your games" comment...why does that matter? Basically no one in the G5, and most of the P5 don't either. C-USA just invited a KSU program that draws 5,000 a game and currently plays in a stadium that holds fewer than 10,000 per game. Meanwhile, EKU is drawing over 13,000 and has a stadium that can hold over 20,000. Clearly this is not the determining factor.
Just a few years ago Coastal Carolina was playing in a 6,000 seat stadium. Things change. Programs grow.
Well said.
One more time for the whiny Seattle outlier in the back row....
"I'll say it again...
People continue to apply the standard of what would have to happen to be invited by and compete immediately with existing FBS schools. I get it, no one has done it this way before, so people have no way to mentally approach it except for the way they always have up until now.
We're moving as a group, and while we don't know all of the specifics yet, here's a possible way schools might schedule when this happens...
-9 conference games (with ten teams we could play a full round robin for as long as it suits us)
-2 P5 "money" games (many of us already do this, EKU plays two P5s next year
-1 home game against a weak FCS program
So that's potentially ten game against teams that are in the same boat as you (or in a smaller boat). The point is that these programs can grow together gradually. The pressure to try to somehow do all of your ramping up for FBS while still playing FCS isn't there to the same degree in this kind of scenario.
So, no. No one things that everything SUU ultimately needs will be done in two years. But what you're missing is that it doesn't need to be if this plan goes forward as we all intend.
Also, with regard to the "sellout your games" comment...why does that matter? Basically no one in the G5, and most of the P5 don't either. C-USA just invited a KSU program that draws 5,000 a game and currently plays in a stadium that holds fewer than 10,000 per game. Meanwhile, EKU is drawing over 13,000 and has a stadium that can hold over 20,000. Clearly this is not the determining factor.
Just a few years ago Coastal Carolina was playing in a 6,000 seat stadium. Things change. Programs grow."
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