(12-08-2022 09:58 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

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(12-08-2022 09:43 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-07-2022 08:01 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-07-2022 06:57 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Clueless?

No no--I don't think you're clueless---Davis either--however I do think you both shoot 2 much

He is obviously our best player. He shoots a lot...he scores a lot. He also draws defenders and passes a lot.

We will just have to agree to disagree on Davis being our best player

You seem to know who our best player is— why don’t you share?

Just my opinion---no need to be sarcastic ---but I think Williams---by the way Lomax has out played Davis thus far this year --and its not even close IMO---------if some of the other guys shot as many times per game as Davis-----they would be the leading scorer -----when you shoot as many times a game as Davis--its almost a given to lead in scoring-----but that doesn't make him the best on the team IMO

It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

(12-08-2022 10:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

"Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

"Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

(12-08-2022 10:45 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:58 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:43 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-07-2022 08:01 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  No no--I don't think you're clueless---Davis either--however I do think you both shoot 2 much

He is obviously our best player. He shoots a lot...he scores a lot. He also draws defenders and passes a lot.

We will just have to agree to disagree on Davis being our best player

You seem to know who our best player is— why don’t you share?

Just my opinion---no need to be sarcastic ---but I think Williams---by the way Lomax has out played Davis thus far this year --and its not even close IMO---------if some of the other guys shot as many times per game as Davis-----they would be the leading scorer -----when you shoot as many times a game as Davis--its almost a given to lead in scoring-----but that doesn't make him the best on the team IMO

We've seen what he can do, over the last 2 games, when he is IN the game and not in foul trouble. But can he stay out of foul trouble? I've not seen him do that consistently over 2+ years now.

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

"Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

"Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Williams is a big man. Lomax isn’t a number 1 option. And the 43% is for a career. Take out his first season at TCU and it’s more like 46% and 37% from 3. You really don’t know anything about basketball do you? But we all know this the way you slobbered over Josh Pastner for so long.

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

"Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Heck, if Derek Chew hit one more 3 in his career, he would be at 50%. That doesn't mean that he is a better playmaker and scorer than Davis and Lomax. Don't move the bar. He was answering what you brought up about having a bad FG%.

(12-08-2022 11:09 AM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:45 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:58 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:43 AM)ballhog Wrote:  He is obviously our best player. He shoots a lot...he scores a lot. He also draws defenders and passes a lot.

We will just have to agree to disagree on Davis being our best player

You seem to know who our best player is— why don’t you share?

Just my opinion---no need to be sarcastic ---but I think Williams---by the way Lomax has out played Davis thus far this year --and its not even close IMO---------if some of the other guys shot as many times per game as Davis-----they would be the leading scorer -----when you shoot as many times a game as Davis--its almost a given to lead in scoring-----but that doesn't make him the best on the team IMO

We've seen what he can do, over the last 2 games, when he is IN the game and not in foul trouble. But can he stay out of foul trouble? I've not seen him do that consistently over 2+ years now.

Does that disqualify him being the best player ?

(12-08-2022 11:14 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

"Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Williams is a big man. Lomax isn’t a number 1 option. And the 43% is for a career. Take out his first season at TCU and it’s more like 46% and 37% from 3. You really don’t know anything about basketball do you? But we all know this the way you slobbered over Josh Pastner for so long.

Again 42.2 is also ALO' career---take out a season LOL -

He is the reigning conference POY. But he's not our best player.
I broke my rule of not feeding the Old Miss trolls, so this one's on me.
Williams is close - and certainly when you talk about value to this team. But KD is our "best player".

(12-08-2022 11:16 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:51 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  It’s what 8 games in? I’d say right now Davis is 1A and Williams is 1B. We need a 1C that can knock down a 3 pointer consistently and we will be good to go. Davis job is to score the ball. Not pass to someone who can’t knock down an open jumper. Penny has pretty much said as much.

"Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Heck, if Derek Chew hit one more 3 in his career, he would be at 50%. That doesn't mean that he is a better playmaker and scorer than Davis and Lomax. Don't move the bar. He was answering what you brought up about having a bad FG%.

He listed Davis' career FG%---all I did was list ALO' career FG%----for 4 years on this site--people have demonized ALO' shooting---and his and Davis' career FG% is almost the same-------------Penny gave Davis the reins of the team--just like he did Bates--both newcomers ---I just hope it doesn't cause dissension

(12-08-2022 11:29 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:16 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  "Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Heck, if Derek Chew hit one more 3 in his career, he would be at 50%. That doesn't mean that he is a better playmaker and scorer than Davis and Lomax. Don't move the bar. He was answering what you brought up about having a bad FG%.

He listed Davis' career FG%---all I did was list ALO' career FG%----for 4 years on this site--people have demonized ALO' shooting---and his and Davis' career FG% is almost the same-------------Penny gave Davis the reins of the team--just like he did Bates--both newcomers ---I just hope it doesn't cause dissension

My apologies. I thought he really believed what he was saying and not trolling. After this statement, I realize my error now.

(12-08-2022 11:29 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:16 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  "Can't knock down an open jumper" ?----Davis is DEAD LAST in FG%

Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Heck, if Derek Chew hit one more 3 in his career, he would be at 50%. That doesn't mean that he is a better playmaker and scorer than Davis and Lomax. Don't move the bar. He was answering what you brought up about having a bad FG%.

He listed Davis' career FG%---all I did was list ALO' career FG%----for 4 years on this site--people have demonized ALO' shooting---and his and Davis' career FG% is almost the same-------------Penny gave Davis the reins of the team--just like he did Bates--both newcomers ---I just hope it doesn't cause dissension

2 Differences: 1) Bates was not a very good basketball player. Good shooter, yes. Everything else, not so much. 2) Bates's insertion into the lineup supplanted people who were starters the year before. 1) Davis is a very good basketball player, in all phases of the game, even when he is not shooting well. 2) Davis's insertion into the starting lineup did not supplant any returning players.

(12-08-2022 11:41 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:29 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:16 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Heck, if Derek Chew hit one more 3 in his career, he would be at 50%. That doesn't mean that he is a better playmaker and scorer than Davis and Lomax. Don't move the bar. He was answering what you brought up about having a bad FG%.

He listed Davis' career FG%---all I did was list ALO' career FG%----for 4 years on this site--people have demonized ALO' shooting---and his and Davis' career FG% is almost the same-------------Penny gave Davis the reins of the team--just like he did Bates--both newcomers ---I just hope it doesn't cause dissension

My apologies. I thought he really believed what he was saying and not trolling. After this statement, I realize my error now.

Of course he believes it.

(12-08-2022 11:18 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:09 AM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:45 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:58 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:54 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  We will just have to agree to disagree on Davis being our best player

You seem to know who our best player is— why don’t you share?

Just my opinion---no need to be sarcastic ---but I think Williams---by the way Lomax has out played Davis thus far this year --and its not even close IMO---------if some of the other guys shot as many times per game as Davis-----they would be the leading scorer -----when you shoot as many times a game as Davis--its almost a given to lead in scoring-----but that doesn't make him the best on the team IMO

We've seen what he can do, over the last 2 games, when he is IN the game and not in foul trouble. But can he stay out of foul trouble? I've not seen him do that consistently over 2+ years now.

Does that disqualify him being the best player ?

Memphis was beating Kansas by 9 points when Joey Dorsey fouled out with 2:00. And then lost the game without him. Does that mean that he was the best player on that team?

(12-08-2022 11:48 AM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:29 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:16 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:10 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:00 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Small sample size he is over 43% career


Calm down he’s had 2 or 3 bad games

Plus he’s a 90% free throw shooter

Heck ALO career FG% is 42.2-----Williams 56.7

Heck, if Derek Chew hit one more 3 in his career, he would be at 50%. That doesn't mean that he is a better playmaker and scorer than Davis and Lomax. Don't move the bar. He was answering what you brought up about having a bad FG%.

He listed Davis' career FG%---all I did was list ALO' career FG%----for 4 years on this site--people have demonized ALO' shooting---and his and Davis' career FG% is almost the same-------------Penny gave Davis the reins of the team--just like he did Bates--both newcomers ---I just hope it doesn't cause dissension

2 Differences: 1) Bates was not a very good basketball player. Good shooter, yes. Everything else, not so much. 2) Bates's insertion into the lineup supplanted people who were starters the year before. 1) Davis is a very good basketball player, in all phases of the game, even when he is not shooting well. 2) Davis's insertion into the starting lineup did not supplant any returning players.

Bates a good shooter ?----his career FG% is 41.2-----below both ALO and Davis

(12-08-2022 12:00 PM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:18 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:09 AM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:45 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:58 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  You seem to know who our best player is— why don’t you share?

Just my opinion---no need to be sarcastic ---but I think Williams---by the way Lomax has out played Davis thus far this year --and its not even close IMO---------if some of the other guys shot as many times per game as Davis-----they would be the leading scorer -----when you shoot as many times a game as Davis--its almost a given to lead in scoring-----but that doesn't make him the best on the team IMO

We've seen what he can do, over the last 2 games, when he is IN the game and not in foul trouble. But can he stay out of foul trouble? I've not seen him do that consistently over 2+ years now.

Does that disqualify him being the best player ?

Memphis was beating Kansas by 9 points when Joey Dorsey fouled out with 2:00. And then lost the game without him. Does that mean that he was the best player on that team?

You are trying to have it both ways. I said I thought Williams is the best player--you countered about Williams always being in foul trouble---I then asked does that disqualify him as being the best player-----now you bring up Dorsey LOL----again I ask -does often getting in foul trouble disqualify him as being the best player ? --Does Davis' horrible assist to turnover ratio disqualify him ?

(12-08-2022 12:15 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 12:00 PM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:18 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:09 AM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:45 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Just my opinion---no need to be sarcastic ---but I think Williams---by the way Lomax has out played Davis thus far this year --and its not even close IMO---------if some of the other guys shot as many times per game as Davis-----they would be the leading scorer -----when you shoot as many times a game as Davis--its almost a given to lead in scoring-----but that doesn't make him the best on the team IMO

We've seen what he can do, over the last 2 games, when he is IN the game and not in foul trouble. But can he stay out of foul trouble? I've not seen him do that consistently over 2+ years now.

Does that disqualify him being the best player ?

Memphis was beating Kansas by 9 points when Joey Dorsey fouled out with 2:00. And then lost the game without him. Does that mean that he was the best player on that team?

You are trying to have it both ways. I said I thought Williams is the best player--you countered about Williams always being in foul trouble---I then asked does that disqualify him as being the best player-----now you bring up Dorsey LOL----again I ask -does often getting in foul trouble disqualify him as being the best player ? --Does Davis' horrible assist to turnover ratio disqualify him ?

I think that Williams is our most important player. I thought Dorsey was our most important player in both 2006-7 and 2007-8. I think Davis is our best player now. I thought Supreme Bae was our best player those 2 years (I probably misspelled Bae).

(12-08-2022 12:18 PM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 12:15 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 12:00 PM)micman Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:18 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 11:09 AM)micman Wrote:  We've seen what he can do, over the last 2 games, when he is IN the game and not in foul trouble. But can he stay out of foul trouble? I've not seen him do that consistently over 2+ years now.

Does that disqualify him being the best player ?

Memphis was beating Kansas by 9 points when Joey Dorsey fouled out with 2:00. And then lost the game without him. Does that mean that he was the best player on that team?

You are trying to have it both ways. I said I thought Williams is the best player--you countered about Williams always being in foul trouble---I then asked does that disqualify him as being the best player-----now you bring up Dorsey LOL----again I ask -does often getting in foul trouble disqualify him as being the best player ? --Does Davis' horrible assist to turnover ratio disqualify him ?

I think that Williams is our most important player. I thought Dorsey was our most important player in both 2006-7 and 2007-8. I think Davis is our best player now. I thought Supreme Bae was our best player those 2 years (I probably misspelled Bae).

If you mean CDR--then I agree with you