(12-05-2022 03:16 PM)7 Wrote:  

(12-05-2022 02:57 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Posted this in another thread, not sure it's getting eyeballs...


I'm guessing the IHSA maintains this site, not Sean Frazier's crack team?

https://ihsadestinationdekalb.com/

Embarrassing either way, our AD should be on it regardless. NIU's website links to this URL, so does the IHSA-Dekalb FB pade...

(...or are we rolling in some phat kamagra $?)

Why would Frazier have anything to do with that website? You want him overseeing everything IHSA because we host the games every other year at Huskie Stadium?

I mentioned that it's likely the IHSA that runs the site (who knows though), but you'd think someone at NIU, as we take time to bid for host duties again, would notice that our very own host site was currently selling bogus German pharma.... It looks like NIU athletics and/or Dekalb County are running/contributing to the FB page, which also promotes the currently bogus link.

https://www.facebook.com/ihsadestinationdekalb/

Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

EdgyTim talked about it -- that NIU did a great job hosting but the lack of amenities and press box issues were problems with Huskie Stadium. I've seen other articles report fans attending griped about lack of concessions (same issue we talk about for NIU games).

How is it that ISU can fund $35 million in football facility upgrades in the last 9 years but Frazier has done nothing in his 10 years for major fundraising for facilities? Huskie Stadium is pretty much the exact same as he inherited it minus the cargo containers in the south endzone selling beer.

Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

(12-08-2022 08:26 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

EdgyTim talked about it -- that NIU did a great job hosting but the lack of amenities and press box issues were problems with Huskie Stadium. I've seen other articles report fans attending griped about lack of concessions (same issue we talk about for NIU games).

How is it that ISU can fund $35 million in football facility upgrades in the last 9 years but Frazier has done nothing in his 10 years for major fundraising for facilities? Huskie Stadium is pretty much the exact same as he inherited it minus the cargo containers in the south endzone selling beer.

Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

Enrollment.

As for whether losing this is Frazier's fault or not. Edgy Tim was pretty clear in that the only reason NIU got it in the first place was because Illinois had scheduling conflicts otherwise, NIU probably never would have been considered.

So, in that context, it never really was NIUs to lose. Seems like we were gifted the games and when IHSA decided they didn't want to rotate locations anymore, NIU was never a realistic option. It also sounds like people in general (IHSA and coaches and others involved) just favored moving the games back to ISU and were pretty determined to do so.

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

Unfortunately, it will not happen. President Freeman sits comfortably in her ivy tower office and assumes her usual laissez faire attitude. It ain't gonna change.

I have learned to accept what I have no control over. I have no control over whether STF stays or goes. Under his watch, the football team has flowed down the drain and the men's basketball team is the pits as usual. I only have control over my donations and season tickets. Except for women's basketball (which I will support with season tickets and donations for various reasons), I am cancelling my football season tickets, men's basketball season tickets, and my HAF donations. I will also no longer participate in fundraising events (except for women's basketball).

I guarantee you there will be no follow-up e-mails or calls next Spring when I don't send in my HAF donations and renew the season tickets. I will get the same e-mails and calls in March and April telling me that they can help take my money. They are just too stupid to do proper fan and donor relations.

Athletics administration has to be the worst run organization in the world. I have had several issues with them over the STF years (especially this last year), and one may even be elevated to a legal matter in the near future. It is that bad. I have never, ever seen such complete ineptitude and non-caring in my life. My future donations would be better used by a vagrant on the street.

I have not posted in over a month because I am completely disgusted with how 2022 has ended and the way things are going with NIU athletics. I will better devote my time, energies, and support to something that makes me feel happy rather than suck me into a cesspool of disgust, anger, and depression.

(12-08-2022 08:33 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 08:26 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

EdgyTim talked about it -- that NIU did a great job hosting but the lack of amenities and press box issues were problems with Huskie Stadium. I've seen other articles report fans attending griped about lack of concessions (same issue we talk about for NIU games).

How is it that ISU can fund $35 million in football facility upgrades in the last 9 years but Frazier has done nothing in his 10 years for major fundraising for facilities? Huskie Stadium is pretty much the exact same as he inherited it minus the cargo containers in the south endzone selling beer.

Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

Enrollment.

As for whether losing this is Frazier's fault or not. Edgy Tim was pretty clear in that the only reason NIU got it in the first place was because Illinois had scheduling conflicts otherwise, NIU probably never would have been considered.

So, in that context, it never really was NIUs to lose. Seems like we were gifted the games and when IHSA decided they didn't want to rotate locations anymore, NIU was never a realistic option. It also sounds like people in general (IHSA and coaches and others involved) just favored moving the games back to ISU and were pretty determined to do so.

Why would NIU, who has decent facilities, and convenient location for the majority of the population, ".. never would have been considered"? We also received positive fan reviews from our recent hosting, I'm guessing we had a decent shot at keeping it.

If press box and lack of suites was a key issue that falls on Frazier as well. He announced plans years ago to bring us up to speed on those items and failed. Please don't throw a covid card on the table here, other schools have moved facilities forward over the last 3 years.

Come on! Do you really think that this bid was 100% under STF's control? Yes, I believe the Athletic Department had some say In the process since the Stadium is under their control. But to make a bid like hosting the IHSA Championships needed to be a joint venture between the school and the city of DeKalb. My guess is that STF wasn't even the point man for the school. I believe a situation like this would be handled by the Events/External Affairs Department at NIU and the City.

Blaming STF for the bid failure is like blaming him for the Convocation Center shortcomings when it was designed and approved before he even got to DeKalb.

I truly feel that we lost the bid because the stadium has a lot to be desired and the city needs to spruce up itself and make it attractive to host an event like that.

(12-08-2022 08:33 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 08:26 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

EdgyTim talked about it -- that NIU did a great job hosting but the lack of amenities and press box issues were problems with Huskie Stadium. I've seen other articles report fans attending griped about lack of concessions (same issue we talk about for NIU games).

How is it that ISU can fund $35 million in football facility upgrades in the last 9 years but Frazier has done nothing in his 10 years for major fundraising for facilities? Huskie Stadium is pretty much the exact same as he inherited it minus the cargo containers in the south endzone selling beer.

Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

Enrollment.

As for whether losing this is Frazier's fault or not. Edgy Tim was pretty clear in that the only reason NIU got it in the first place was because Illinois had scheduling conflicts otherwise, NIU probably never would have been considered.

Enrollment has nothing to do with private fundraising for necessary athletics upgrades and facility projects. CPC and Yordon Center were built due to fundraising. Same fundraising that is allowing ISU to build a new indoor practice facility.

Central Michigan just opened a $32 million Champions Center last year. Their enrollment has declined 43% since 2012.

https://www.bridgemi.com/talent-educatio...lment-dive

(12-08-2022 08:38 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 08:33 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 08:26 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

EdgyTim talked about it -- that NIU did a great job hosting but the lack of amenities and press box issues were problems with Huskie Stadium. I've seen other articles report fans attending griped about lack of concessions (same issue we talk about for NIU games).

How is it that ISU can fund $35 million in football facility upgrades in the last 9 years but Frazier has done nothing in his 10 years for major fundraising for facilities? Huskie Stadium is pretty much the exact same as he inherited it minus the cargo containers in the south endzone selling beer.

Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

Enrollment.

As for whether losing this is Frazier's fault or not. Edgy Tim was pretty clear in that the only reason NIU got it in the first place was because Illinois had scheduling conflicts otherwise, NIU probably never would have been considered.

So, in that context, it never really was NIUs to lose. Seems like we were gifted the games and when IHSA decided they didn't want to rotate locations anymore, NIU was never a realistic option. It also sounds like people in general (IHSA and coaches and others involved) just favored moving the games back to ISU and were pretty determined to do so.

Why would NIU, who has decent facilities, and convenient location for the majority of the population, ".. never would have been considered"? We also received positive fan reviews from our recent hosting, I'm guessing we had a decent shot at keeping it.

If press box and lack of suites was a key issue that falls on Frazier as well. He announced plans years ago to bring us up to speed on those items and failed. Please don't throw a covid card on the table here, other schools have moved facilities forward over the last 3 years.

But it's not convenient to the majority of the population. The population center of the state is around Joliet, which is quite a bit south of DeKalb and south of that...is half of the population.

At best, NIU is convenient to about 40% of the population and much less convenient to over half of the rest of the population.

(12-08-2022 09:08 AM)Big Red Wrote:  But it's not convenient to the majority of the population. The population center of the state is around Joliet, which is quite a bit south of DeKalb and south of that...is half of the population.

At best, NIU is convenient to about 40% of the population and much less convenient to over half of the rest of the population.

Cook, DuPage, Lake, Kane, and McHenry counties make up over 7.5 million of the 12.7 million people in Illinois. That's nearly 60% of Illinois population closer to DeKalb than Bloomington.

Also, Joliet is also closer to DeKalb (69 miles) than Bloomington (98 miles).

(12-08-2022 08:26 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

Media members find some irony in the IHSA listing ISU's press box upgrades as a positive because the IHSA often treats the media like something to be tolerated rather than appreciated. In addition, not so sure Jeff Compher deserves much of a pat on the back rather than a kick in the ass because Hall of Fame SID Bud Nangle left a million dollar donation for the enlargement and revamping of the Huskie Stadium press box. However, Compher's shoddy treatment of Mike Korcek plus Nangle's widow and brother-in-law (who was the executor of the will) led to them changing the gift from athletics to the university's general account.

(12-08-2022 09:18 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 09:08 AM)Big Red Wrote:  But it's not convenient to the majority of the population. The population center of the state is around Joliet, which is quite a bit south of DeKalb and south of that...is half of the population.

At best, NIU is convenient to about 40% of the population and much less convenient to over half of the rest of the population.

Cook, DuPage, Lake, Kane, and McHenry counties make up over 7.5 million of the 12.7 million people in Illinois. That's nearly 60% of Illinois population closer to DeKalb than Bloomington.

Also, Joliet is also closer to DeKalb (69 miles) than Bloomington (98 miles).

I think a realization that needs to be understood is that the IHSA is the entire state. Population center sounds great, but isn't a deciding factor. South of I80 does not like the Chicago and yes, DeKalb might as well be Chicago. I mean when people talk about proximity, Chicago population in one sentence you can't ignore it in the next.

The downstate schools have a lot of pull. Representation. Always have especially for basketball. I went to an Illinois Basketball Coaches HOF and where was it? Redbird Arena. The board isn't comprised of and lead by some Chicago contingency. For decades basketball has and football was downstate. It's money for their people and close proximity for much of a base. Looking at it objectively and not as NIU fans and alumni, it may not be worse, but there is nothing DeKalb offers better than Bloomington or CU than close to Chicago and......

I am sure there is something else.

And honestly, I am not even sure the majority of people in DeKalb care or even know if State playoffs are there.

And oh, by the way, IHSA headquarters is in Bloomington.

(12-08-2022 10:14 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  And oh, by the way, IHSA headquarters is in Bloomington.

Indeed it is, hence why it reeks of good ol' boys club.

Champaign and Bloomington host most (all?) of the IHSA sports playoffs. That central region already hosts plenty. This was an opportunity to let the north part of the state host something. Huskie Stadium was getting better IHSA attendances than Memorial Stadium.

But let's be honest, having lived south of I-80 there's nothing down there but farmland and vast miles of nothing. There are many high schools down there that are too small and don't field football teams due to lack of available kids.

In FB, Pat Schiller had an interesting post. Scary that Yordan Center is 15 years old. He mentioned that there have been no remodeling or replacements sincevitvopened. Carpet ripped, equipment aging, etc. We don't even have the capital budget to maintain our current facilities. The Yorden/Chessick combo was a huge selling point, now it might be g OJ ing into disrepair

(12-08-2022 10:38 AM)klake87 Wrote:  In FB, Pat Schiller had an interesting post. Scary that Yordan Center is 15 years old. He mentioned that there have been no remodeling or replacements sincevitvopened. Carpet ripped, equipment aging, etc. We don't even have the capital budget to maintain our current facilities. The Yorden/Chessick combo was a huge selling point, now it might be g OJ ing into disrepair

Schiller made a few million in the NFL. Maybe he could throw a few dollars that way and help out.

(12-08-2022 10:40 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:38 AM)klake87 Wrote:  In FB, Pat Schiller had an interesting post. Scary that Yordan Center is 15 years old. He mentioned that there have been no remodeling or replacements sincevitvopened. Carpet ripped, equipment aging, etc. We don't even have the capital budget to maintain our current facilities. The Yorden/Chessick combo was a huge selling point, now it might be g OJ ing into disrepair

Schiller made a few million in the NFL. Maybe he could throw a few dollars that way and help out.

All of the former players I know donate generously. You have to pay electric and salaries before you buy new carpet or paint the walls

(12-08-2022 08:26 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

EdgyTim talked about it -- that NIU did a great job hosting but the lack of amenities and press box issues were problems with Huskie Stadium. I've seen other articles report fans attending griped about lack of concessions (same issue we talk about for NIU games).

How is it that ISU can fund $35 million in football facility upgrades in the last 9 years but Frazier has done nothing in his 10 years for major fundraising for facilities? Huskie Stadium is pretty much the exact same as he inherited it minus the cargo containers in the south endzone selling beer.

Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

What facility did Jim Phillips get built at NIU?

Here are the top IHSA attendances.

Notice how Huskie Stadium has 3 of the top 5 attendances from 2013-Current. Also notice from 1985-2012 that most of the top attendances are not from IHSA playoffs being at Hancock Stadium.

(12-08-2022 10:54 AM)niu1980 Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 08:26 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 07:40 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Looks like Dekalb/NIU also lost the state football championships on Sean Frazier's watch.

https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/new...2023-2027/

How much longer do we have to suffer under this guy????

EdgyTim talked about it -- that NIU did a great job hosting but the lack of amenities and press box issues were problems with Huskie Stadium. I've seen other articles report fans attending griped about lack of concessions (same issue we talk about for NIU games).

How is it that ISU can fund $35 million in football facility upgrades in the last 9 years but Frazier has done nothing in his 10 years for major fundraising for facilities? Huskie Stadium is pretty much the exact same as he inherited it minus the cargo containers in the south endzone selling beer.

Jim Phillips and Jeff Compher in their 9 years achieved two facility fundraising projects in their time at NIU. If they hadn't done that prior to Frazier we'd probably still have a beat up track and grass field north of Huskie Stadium.

What facility did Jim Phillips get built at NIU?

What facility has Frazier got built? That's what matters. It's been 10 years.

I also forgot that the soccer and track and field complex also were built under Phillips.

(12-08-2022 10:24 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(12-08-2022 10:14 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  And oh, by the way, IHSA headquarters is in Bloomington.

Indeed it is, hence why it reeks of good ol' boys club.

Champaign and Bloomington host most (all?) of the IHSA sports playoffs. That central region already hosts plenty. This was an opportunity to let the north part of the state host something. Huskie Stadium was getting better IHSA attendances than Memorial Stadium.

But let's be honest, having lived south of I-80 there's nothing down there but farmland and vast miles of nothing. There are many high schools down there that are too small and don't field football teams due to lack of available kids.

So it's not proximity to population, attendance.

So is it the facilities, which seem ok to the masses, and STF fault or do we chalk it up to IHSA and move along?