(11-17-2022 11:03 AM)7 Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:11 PM)Trekker41 Wrote:  Miami has had a bad year for injuries as well. Yet, they still manage to play better than us.

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They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

We would be bad even if Hampton was playing. The season was over as soon as Lombardi got hurt. Your program should have more depth in year 4 of a regime than that.

I’m not sure Cremascoli isn’t better than Hampton is already

100%

The heat will be on Hammock this off-season and we will find out a lot about how he is a coach from now to the start of next season. Changes need to be made.

(11-17-2022 12:13 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  "We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points."

With the team's star quarterback and two star running backs injured.

They weren't injured for all of the games, but when you add up all the injuries and see that NU is still barely losing, its helps clear some things up.

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:11 PM)Trekker41 Wrote:  Miami has had a bad year for injuries as well. Yet, they still manage to play better than us.

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They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

Other Huskie coaches have taken much more heat during injury plagued years with better records. Just sayin. I have been a Hammock supporter but starting to wonder about recruiting and many decisions. Next year will be a big year to say the least. Let’s hope Hammock and the team rise to the occasion. Is coaching college his best fit?

(11-17-2022 03:34 PM)MGMFIN86 Wrote:  Other Huskie coaches have taken much more heat during injury plagued years with better records. Just sayin. I have been a Hammock supporter but starting to wonder about recruiting and many decisions. Next year will be a big year to say the least. Let’s hope Hammock and the team rise to the occasion. Is coaching college his best fit?

I would have loved to see this places reaction if Carey went 5-7, 0-6, and 4-8/3-9 in a 4 year stretch.

I still believe in Hammock but the double standard is hilarious.

(11-17-2022 03:39 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:34 PM)MGMFIN86 Wrote:  Other Huskie coaches have taken much more heat during injury plagued years with better records. Just sayin. I have been a Hammock supporter but starting to wonder about recruiting and many decisions. Next year will be a big year to say the least. Let’s hope Hammock and the team rise to the occasion. Is coaching college his best fit?

I would have loved to see this places reaction if Carey went 5-7, 0-6, and 4-8/3-9 in a 4 year stretch.

I still believe in Hammock but the double standard is hilarious.

It wasn’t hard to hate Carey. He often looked and acted like he didn’t want to be here. We need Hammocks desire to coach the Huskies to match his ability to coach the Huskies or he will have to go.

(11-17-2022 03:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 12:13 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  "We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points."

With the team's star quarterback and two star running backs injured.

They weren't injured for all of the games, but when you add up all the injuries and see that NU is still barely losing, its helps clear some things up.

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:11 PM)Trekker41 Wrote:  Miami has had a bad year for injuries as well. Yet, they still manage to play better than us.

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They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

(11-17-2022 03:56 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 12:13 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  "We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points."

With the team's star quarterback and two star running backs injured.

They weren't injured for all of the games, but when you add up all the injuries and see that NU is still barely losing, its helps clear some things up.

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:11 PM)Trekker41 Wrote:  Miami has had a bad year for injuries as well. Yet, they still manage to play better than us.

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They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

But we aren’t even competing in the MAC right now. The next level stuff has been a pipe dream for forever now, but we’ve taken a step back from where we were even at under Carey.

I have always been happy with and will always be happy with competing for a trip to Detroit every year and making a bowl. We’ve done that in 1 of 4 years under Hammock so far.

Watching the game last night, Coach looked totally dejected with good reason.

(11-16-2022 09:29 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just killing Byrd

Can't get over the way he played that TD catch. I love him for his athletic ability and it showed in that play, he was there in position, but didn't fight for the ball. He is one of the better athletes on the team, but damn he has to do something with it. Very disappointed. Coached I to position against an average arm QB and ball was a toss up that he did not fight for.

That's another thing with this team , receivers rarely get open and only a couple fight for the ball.

(11-17-2022 04:01 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:56 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 12:13 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  "We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points."

With the team's star quarterback and two star running backs injured.

They weren't injured for all of the games, but when you add up all the injuries and see that NU is still barely losing, its helps clear some things up.

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

But we aren’t even competing in the MAC right now. The next level stuff has been a pipe dream for forever now, but we’ve taken a step back from where we were even at under Carey.

I have always been happy with and will always be happy with competing for a trip to Detroit every year and making a bowl. We’ve done that in 1 of 4 years under Hammock so far.

Im gonna say Hammock's ability falls somewhere between last year and this year. I am going to cut him slack for the 19 & 20 season. Besides being new and covid, go back and look at Carey's 2018 recruit class. It is bad. Historically bad. It produced Cox, Potter and Griffen. That's it. Really. That's all. The 17 class was good but guys disappeared. Hawn's career ended early. Lorbeck left. Nettles left. Labus left. Kramer left. Jordan Cole left. Fortunately Tucker and Kennedy stayed and Richie came back after a Juco stint.

So there was a decent reason for that slow start. And he did get Bowers here. Ross was a good QB who just couldn't overcome the bad surroundings. He was on pace for 2,700 yds, 20 TD, 4 Int the covid year. So I'm going to start judging Ham on 21+22+23. 6-2 in 21. 2-5(probably 3-5) in 22. If he's under .500 in 23 I will be criticizing the hell out of his coaching. But Im expecting another 6-2 season and that will keep me happy.

(11-17-2022 04:40 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 04:01 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:56 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 12:13 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  "We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points."

With the team's star quarterback and two star running backs injured.

They weren't injured for all of the games, but when you add up all the injuries and see that NU is still barely losing, its helps clear some things up.

These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

But we aren’t even competing in the MAC right now. The next level stuff has been a pipe dream for forever now, but we’ve taken a step back from where we were even at under Carey.

I have always been happy with and will always be happy with competing for a trip to Detroit every year and making a bowl. We’ve done that in 1 of 4 years under Hammock so far.

Im gonna say Hammock's ability falls somewhere between last year and this year. I am going to cut him slack for the 19 & 20 season. Besides being new and covid, go back and look at Carey's 2018 recruit class. It is bad. Historically bad. It produced Cox, Potter and Griffen. That's it. Really. That's all. The 17 class was good but guys disappeared. Hawn's career ended early. Lorbeck left. Nettles left. Labus left. Kramer left. Jordan Cole left. Fortunately Tucker and Kennedy stayed and Richie came back after a Juco stint.

So there was a decent reason for that slow start. And he did get Bowers here. Ross was a good QB who just couldn't overcome the bad surroundings. He was on pace for 2,700 yds, 20 TD, 4 Int the covid year. So I'm going to start judging Ham on 21+22+23. 6-2 in 21. 2-5(probably 3-5) in 22. If he's under .500 in 23 I will be criticizing the hell out of his coaching. But Im expecting another 6-2 season and that will keep me happy.

Yeah, this is reasonable.

(11-17-2022 11:21 AM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 11:03 AM)7 Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:11 PM)Trekker41 Wrote:  Miami has had a bad year for injuries as well. Yet, they still manage to play better than us.

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They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

We would be bad even if Hampton was playing. The season was over as soon as Lombardi got hurt. Your program should have more depth in year 4 of a regime than that.

I’m not sure Cremascoli isn’t better than Hampton is already

Not sure the source, but I have heard from others we had the 2nd most injuries to any team in FBS, this can't be ignored IMO. The drop off at QB does have to be addressed I agree. Give me Cremascoli over Hampton also, he just seems to look the part more and has some exciting upside.

One of the things I knock on Lombardi is he's so much better when rolling out or improvising out of the pocket. I feel the opposite is true for Cremascoli. He seems to be nervous standing in the pocket and runs out a lot and then makes bad passes or interceptions. Obviously he is young and raw but outside of the pocket I'm not impressed with his play.

(11-17-2022 04:45 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 11:21 AM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 11:03 AM)7 Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-16-2022 10:11 PM)Trekker41 Wrote:  Miami has had a bad year for injuries as well. Yet, they still manage to play better than us.

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They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

We would be bad even if Hampton was playing. The season was over as soon as Lombardi got hurt. Your program should have more depth in year 4 of a regime than that.

I’m not sure Cremascoli isn’t better than Hampton is already

Not sure the source, but I have heard from others we had the 2nd most injuries to any team in FBS, this can't be ignored IMO. The drop off at QB does have to be addressed I agree. Give me Cremascoli over Hampton also, he just seems to look the part more and has some exciting upside.

One of the things I knock on Lombardi is he's so much better when rolling out or improvising out of the pocket. I feel the opposite is true for Cremascoli. He seems to be nervous standing in the pocket and runs out a lot and then makes bad passes or interceptions. Obviously he is young and raw but outside of the pocket I'm not impressed with his play.

I don't think anyone in the QB room today will be a starter in 24. That's not to say Cremascoli or Hampton won't improve and be good back ups, but I think Ham still looks in the portal for his next guy.

(11-17-2022 03:34 PM)MGMFIN86 Wrote:  Other Huskie coaches have taken much more heat during injury plagued years with better records. Just sayin. I have been a Hammock supporter but starting to wonder about recruiting and many decisions. Next year will be a big year to say the least. Let’s hope Hammock and the team rise to the occasion. Is coaching college his best fit?

Which coaches and which seasons in particular?

(11-17-2022 05:31 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:34 PM)MGMFIN86 Wrote:  Other Huskie coaches have taken much more heat during injury plagued years with better records. Just sayin. I have been a Hammock supporter but starting to wonder about recruiting and many decisions. Next year will be a big year to say the least. Let’s hope Hammock and the team rise to the occasion. Is coaching college his best fit?

Which coaches and which seasons in particular?

Hot Rod to be specific. He had his flaws and it was time for him to go in my opinion. Tried to avoid bring his name up . Thread might become a Rod Carey thread.

"Hiding" behind Lombardi is a weak argument. Hams is responsible for EVERY player that comes through those doors. No excuses. He recruited, evaluated and signed him. Hams gets ALL the credit for players that he signed and brought to campus. He also is responsible for any quality players that have left and especially at our weaker spots.

(11-17-2022 04:01 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:56 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 12:13 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  "We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points."

With the team's star quarterback and two star running backs injured.

They weren't injured for all of the games, but when you add up all the injuries and see that NU is still barely losing, its helps clear some things up.

(11-16-2022 10:48 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  They definitely aren't playing a 4th string walkon freshman QB. Probably not playing a 4th string true freshman RB. We're down top two WRs with no Rudolph or Tucker, top TE, couple OL, etc.

I don't think any MAC team wants to play the injury game with us. We probably have them all beat.

But regardless of injuries, Hammock isn't getting it done.

We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points.

These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

But we aren’t even competing in the MAC right now. The next level stuff has been a pipe dream for forever now, but we’ve taken a step back from where we were even at under Carey.

I have always been happy with and will always be happy with competing for a trip to Detroit every year and making a bowl. We’ve done that in 1 of 4 years under Hammock so far.

I think you mean "But we aren't even competing FOR the MACC right now.

Losses are in OT, 29,7,13,6. Wins by 7, 3.

I'd hardly say they are good but neither is the MAC.

(11-17-2022 06:08 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 04:01 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:56 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 12:13 PM)Huckin Fuskie Wrote:  "We've lost five games by one possession this season and a sixth game by 10 points."

With the team's star quarterback and two star running backs injured.

They weren't injured for all of the games, but when you add up all the injuries and see that NU is still barely losing, its helps clear some things up.

These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

But we aren’t even competing in the MAC right now. The next level stuff has been a pipe dream for forever now, but we’ve taken a step back from where we were even at under Carey.

I have always been happy with and will always be happy with competing for a trip to Detroit every year and making a bowl. We’ve done that in 1 of 4 years under Hammock so far.

I think you mean "But we aren't even competing FOR the MACC right now.

Losses are in OT, 29,7,13,6. Wins by 7, 3.

I'd hardly say they are good but neither is the MAC.

Thank you for the clarification I’m proud of the lads for managing to give Ball State and 4-7 CMU games. Good stuff.

(11-17-2022 06:31 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 06:08 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 04:01 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:56 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:03 PM)7 Wrote:  These excuses don’t fly for me. We were also one of the luckiest teams in college football history last year. The games still count.

From 1998-2018 we went worse than 5-7 one time. We’ve done it in 2 of the last 3 years under hammock. Stop making excuses for him. We’re 7-23 in games not started by Lombardi under Hammock. It goes far beyond injuries.

The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

But we aren’t even competing in the MAC right now. The next level stuff has been a pipe dream for forever now, but we’ve taken a step back from where we were even at under Carey.

I have always been happy with and will always be happy with competing for a trip to Detroit every year and making a bowl. We’ve done that in 1 of 4 years under Hammock so far.

I think you mean "But we aren't even competing FOR the MACC right now.

Losses are in OT, 29,7,13,6. Wins by 7, 3.

I'd hardly say they are good but neither is the MAC.

Thank you for the clarification I’m proud of the lads for managing to give Ball State and 4-7 CMU games. Good stuff.

We wanted to see life after Carey. Pull up a chair and get your popcorn. Welcome to your wish come true.

(11-17-2022 07:32 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 06:31 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 06:08 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 04:01 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-17-2022 03:56 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The MAC has become a cesspool of mediocrity. There's no really good teams. The MACC will be Toledo & Ohio who are #6 and #9 in defense but #1 & #2 in offense. Miami easily has the best MAC defense but that doesn't mean crap. No Gabbert, No dice. Get a good QB and you're in the MACC. All the QB talent is in the East. Lombardi returns healthy(with Rudolph) in 23 and NIU is back in the MACC. Finn got worse this year at Toledo and I wouldn't be surprised if Gleason replaces him. WMU and CMU are running freshman out there looking for their next starter. As long as the west is a mess NIU can compete and win.

Hammock hasn't really built crap but he can hide behind Lombardi. And if he can find a quality transfer ever 3 or 4 years that's going to be his formula. Great RB recruits, really good transfer QBs. It's nothing to brag about but it can win in this trash conference. But ditch those top25 dreams or "next level" madness. Hammock is going to be just as dependent on getting lucky with a 3 star recruit turning into a superstar as every MAC coach if he is going to have a great team.

But we aren’t even competing in the MAC right now. The next level stuff has been a pipe dream for forever now, but we’ve taken a step back from where we were even at under Carey.

I have always been happy with and will always be happy with competing for a trip to Detroit every year and making a bowl. We’ve done that in 1 of 4 years under Hammock so far.

I think you mean "But we aren't even competing FOR the MACC right now.

Losses are in OT, 29,7,13,6. Wins by 7, 3.

I'd hardly say they are good but neither is the MAC.

Thank you for the clarification I’m proud of the lads for managing to give Ball State and 4-7 CMU games. Good stuff.

We wanted to see life after Carey. Pull up a chair and get your popcorn. Welcome to your wish come true.

I disliked Carey personally as much as most here, but to be real about him, he was a good 1 or 2 transfer portal QB's away from being on the NIU Mt.Rushmore of coaches.