(10-08-2022 08:16 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 08:14 PM)JoeNovak Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 07:59 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  I was hoping Fletcher was going to get in today,

Positive: Hammock loyalty maybe saved some confidence in Hampton by sticking with him and letting him work through the struggles.

Negative: any backup QB right now probably not happy watching a dude throw 4 INTs with 2 pick 6 and somehow still playing in the game

Put in Ryan Morris

I see your Ryan Morris and raise you a Zach Ulrich

(10-08-2022 08:46 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  Probably open competition for next week. Ham clearly was sticking with Hampton even after the implosion today though. Problem is Hampton probably looks a lot better in practice. Without pass rush and against our secondary.

I said before the game I wanted to see Lynch, letting him actually play QB vs whatever the heck they are doing with him.

Would like to see him (or even Fletcher) get a chance. Hampton has had some decent moments, but overall not seeing it.

A QB has to be able to win with his arm. Bowers had it but not the supporting cast. Rocky has it but he is hurt. Hamp is a liability and I don’t see him getting much better.

(10-08-2022 08:50 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 08:46 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  Probably open competition for next week. Ham clearly was sticking with Hampton even after the implosion today though. Problem is Hampton probably looks a lot better in practice. Without pass rush and against our secondary.

I said before the game I wanted to see Lynch, letting him actually play QB vs whatever the heck they are doing with him.

Would like to see him (or even Fletcher) get a chance. Hampton has had some decent moments, but overall not seeing it.

A QB has to be able to win with his arm. Bowers had it but not the supporting cast. Rocky has it but he is hurt. Hamp is a liability and I don’t see him getting much better.

Yeah, guess I’m not ready to count out Lynch until he actually gets a chance. And yes I know he didn’t have a good freshman season, but on a bad Temple Team, with bad offensive system in a better conference. I’ve seen enough of Hampton.

Agree Bowers would have been good for us if situation was different.

Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

(10-08-2022 09:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

(10-08-2022 09:23 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

It’s mind blowing to see they haven’t schemed one single high percentage pass for him in 3 games.

(10-08-2022 09:28 PM)JoeNovak Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:23 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

It’s mind blowing to see they haven’t schemed one single high percentage pass for him in 3 games.

My guess is that if Lynch completes a few passes in a row Hammock thinks people will be calling for him to start. Hampton is clearly Hammocks guy and he is not going to let anyone impede that

(10-08-2022 09:23 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

That is EXACTLY how they used the other Lynch his sophomore season. We never saw that guy throw until his Junior season and Harnish was gone.

(10-09-2022 10:35 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:23 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

That is EXACTLY how they used the other Lynch his sophomore season. We never saw that guy throw until his Junior season and Harnish was gone.

Except that, Justin has already played a year at Temple…..so not the same.

At Temple last year, Justin had 75 carries and threw 158 passes.

Lynch's 1st 2 starts were good. He played the bottom dweller Akron, played well. His last 2 starts, not so good. Poor. But it was on a team that had tons of injuries and checked out.

Temple averaged 286 yards a game, 107 rushing. They had a Georgia transfer who barely better than Lynch. Their leading rusher had 321 yards and 3 td's. Leading receiver, 450 yards. 3-9 with wins over Akron and Wagner. Outside of the MAC, likely worst G5 team.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch.../2021.html

Vs. MAC talent, he would no doubt be as good in not better than Hamption I think. It's the element of QB running, which for years has been part of Huskie success be it run 1st , spot run and take off when needed like Rocky. Lynch has faces 8-9 in the box, everyone knows he is not passing. Hampton faces the same 8-9 but can't even hit guys 1/1, and we know he can't run. The element of read or straight roll out option needs to be explored, some reason is not.

(10-09-2022 10:50 AM)HuskieDave Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:35 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:23 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

That is EXACTLY how they used the other Lynch his sophomore season. We never saw that guy throw until his Junior season and Harnish was gone.

Except that, Justin has already played a year at Temple…..so not the same.

At Temple last year, Justin had 75 carries and threw 158 passes.

And I think you roll him out and his threat to run freezes defenders a bit so he’s not going to have as much of that “locking on to his primary” issue like Hampton. If his primary isn’t open he probably just runs it. Makes it’s easy.

(10-09-2022 11:25 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:50 AM)HuskieDave Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:35 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:23 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:10 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Today would’ve been an ideal situation to see what we have in Lynch… But never mind. SMDH…

While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

That is EXACTLY how they used the other Lynch his sophomore season. We never saw that guy throw until his Junior season and Harnish was gone.

Except that, Justin has already played a year at Temple…..so not the same.

At Temple last year, Justin had 75 carries and threw 158 passes.

And I think you roll him out and his threat to run freezes defenders a bit so he’s not going to have as much of that “locking on to his primary” issue like Hampton. If his primary isn’t open he probably just runs it. Makes it’s easy.

Can't load box as he can run outside, and even hit guys if guy commits, run if they freeze.

Put in your resume for OC. I think about 10 of us should.

At least we would try something new.

(10-09-2022 11:32 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:25 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:50 AM)HuskieDave Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:35 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 09:23 PM)NILAW Wrote:  While I'm not sure this is the most frustrating thing today, it ranks up there. Lynch is averaging 5 yards/carry when everyone knows he's gonna run. If the defense had to play the pass (not respect but at least play the pass) imagine how that would help his (and the RBs) yards/carry. If this is how they are going to use Lynch then he shouldn't be playing QB. And I'm quite sure this is not what Lynch was told we he agreed to transfer here.

That is EXACTLY how they used the other Lynch his sophomore season. We never saw that guy throw until his Junior season and Harnish was gone.

Except that, Justin has already played a year at Temple…..so not the same.

At Temple last year, Justin had 75 carries and threw 158 passes.

And I think you roll him out and his threat to run freezes defenders a bit so he’s not going to have as much of that “locking on to his primary” issue like Hampton. If his primary isn’t open he probably just runs it. Makes it’s easy.

Can't load box as he can run outside, and even hit guys if guy commits, run if they freeze.

Put in your resume for OC. I think about 10 of us should.

At least we would try something new.

I’d suggest hammock just gets an Xbox with Madden’22. It could be used for offense and defense. Saves money. Can’t be any worse.

(10-09-2022 11:35 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:32 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:25 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:50 AM)HuskieDave Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:35 AM)Teamduh Wrote:  That is EXACTLY how they used the other Lynch his sophomore season. We never saw that guy throw until his Junior season and Harnish was gone.

Except that, Justin has already played a year at Temple…..so not the same.

At Temple last year, Justin had 75 carries and threw 158 passes.

And I think you roll him out and his threat to run freezes defenders a bit so he’s not going to have as much of that “locking on to his primary” issue like Hampton. If his primary isn’t open he probably just runs it. Makes it’s easy.

Can't load box as he can run outside, and even hit guys if guy commits, run if they freeze.

Put in your resume for OC. I think about 10 of us should.

At least we would try something new.

I’d suggest hammock just gets an Xbox with Madden’22. It could be used for offense and defense. Saves money. Can’t be any worse.

Nah, Madden '22 is to advanced for him, I think the 60's football game that you posted before is all he can handle.

(10-09-2022 11:38 AM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:35 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:32 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:25 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 10:50 AM)HuskieDave Wrote:  Except that, Justin has already played a year at Temple…..so not the same.

At Temple last year, Justin had 75 carries and threw 158 passes.

And I think you roll him out and his threat to run freezes defenders a bit so he’s not going to have as much of that “locking on to his primary” issue like Hampton. If his primary isn’t open he probably just runs it. Makes it’s easy.

Can't load box as he can run outside, and even hit guys if guy commits, run if they freeze.

Put in your resume for OC. I think about 10 of us should.

At least we would try something new.

I’d suggest hammock just gets an Xbox with Madden’22. It could be used for offense and defense. Saves money. Can’t be any worse.

Nah, Madden '22 is to advanced for him, I think the 60's football game that you posted before is all he can handle.

Maybe that collecovision handheld game with the red digital dash? The one where you wore your thumb muscles out on every long run.

(10-09-2022 11:42 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:38 AM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:35 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:32 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 11:25 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  And I think you roll him out and his threat to run freezes defenders a bit so he’s not going to have as much of that “locking on to his primary” issue like Hampton. If his primary isn’t open he probably just runs it. Makes it’s easy.

Can't load box as he can run outside, and even hit guys if guy commits, run if they freeze.

Put in your resume for OC. I think about 10 of us should.

At least we would try something new.

I’d suggest hammock just gets an Xbox with Madden’22. It could be used for offense and defense. Saves money. Can’t be any worse.

Nah, Madden '22 is to advanced for him, I think the 60's football game that you posted before is all he can handle.

Maybe that collecovision handheld game with the red digital dash? The one where you wore your thumb muscles out on every long run.

That bring back memories. That was a cutting edge video game when that came out.

Tony Romo calling the Bills/Steelers game talking about Kenny Picket being a new, inexperienced starter:

“You wanna help a young QB, call your third down play on first down while the defense is in a simple formation”

We’ve been screaming about this the last 3 games. Stop running on first down when the defense knows you’re going to run. Because now you have to pass on third down when the defense knows you’re going to pass. This stuff is so simple yet …..

We said this at the game. Our offense is so predictable. Runs up the middle, only an occasional jet sweep - or reverse (the new play our OC is in love with and we’ll see every game now). All passes to the sideline, nothing over the middle or deep. Not too hard to defend.

(10-09-2022 01:27 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  We said this at the game. Our offense is so predictable. Runs up the middle, only an occasional jet sweep - or reverse (the new play our OC is in love with and we’ll see every game now). All passes to the sideline, nothing over the middle or deep. Not too hard to defend.

Yep. Either the coaching staff does not trust the players to leave the simple conservative mode, or they are simply too stupid and stubborn to open it up and try something new.

(10-08-2022 08:50 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 08:46 PM)Lynchpin Wrote:  Probably open competition for next week. Ham clearly was sticking with Hampton even after the implosion today though. Problem is Hampton probably looks a lot better in practice. Without pass rush and against our secondary.

I said before the game I wanted to see Lynch, letting him actually play QB vs whatever the heck they are doing with him.

Would like to see him (or even Fletcher) get a chance. Hampton has had some decent moments, but overall not seeing it.

A QB has to be able to win with his arm. Bowers had it but not the supporting cast. Rocky has it but he is hurt. Hamp is a liability and I don’t see him getting much better.

Statistically Hampton and Harnish are very similar at this point in their careers. I am not saying Hampton will turn out to be another Harnish, but I am very happy someone saw enough in Harnish to live with his less than good INT to TD ratio, and mediocre completion % his freshman year. Had that not happen, we would have one less Hall of Famer.