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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 07:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote: If this story is true, then the guy is a bum and should be thrown out on his ear.
And there's the difference. Most Repubs will call this guy out and he will lose support.
When a Dem does this (and worse), you simply deflect and defend.
One side is intellectually honest and one is not.
You're so full of **** with these idiotic talking points.
I, and many others here, called for resignations of Cuomo, Weiner, Franken, Northam, Rangel, et. al.
You need to bump those threads, and don't edit the posts. I seriously doubt your claim.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 10:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote: If this story is true, then the guy is a bum and should be thrown out on his ear.
And there's the difference. Most Repubs will call this guy out and he will lose support.
When a Dem does this (and worse), you simply deflect and defend.
One side is intellectually honest and one is not.
You're so full of **** with these idiotic talking points.
I, and many others here, called for resignations of Cuomo, Weiner, Franken, Northam, Rangel, et. al.
You need to bump those threads, and don't edit the posts. I seriously doubt your claim.
No, I don't. I know what I said about them.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote: If this story is true, then the guy is a bum and should be thrown out on his ear.
And there's the difference. Most Repubs will call this guy out and he will lose support.
When a Dem does this (and worse), you simply deflect and defend.
One side is intellectually honest and one is not.
You're so full of **** with these idiotic talking points.
I, and many others here, called for resignations of Cuomo, Weiner, Franken, Northam, Rangel, et. al.
You need to bump those threads, and don't edit the posts. I seriously doubt your claim.
No, I don't. I know what I said about them.
Right. Tell us how you called for investigation of Hunter's laptop and Joe Biden's connections to Chinese, Ukranian, & Russian businesses.
But yet, you are doing twirls over Trump real estate valuations.
You're such a phony.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote: If this story is true, then the guy is a bum and should be thrown out on his ear.
And there's the difference. Most Repubs will call this guy out and he will lose support.
When a Dem does this (and worse), you simply deflect and defend.
One side is intellectually honest and one is not.
You're so full of **** with these idiotic talking points.
I, and many others here, called for resignations of Cuomo, Weiner, Franken, Northam, Rangel, et. al.
You need to bump those threads, and don't edit the posts. I seriously doubt your claim.
No, I don't. I know what I said about them.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 11:09 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote: If this story is true, then the guy is a bum and should be thrown out on his ear.
And there's the difference. Most Repubs will call this guy out and he will lose support.
When a Dem does this (and worse), you simply deflect and defend.
One side is intellectually honest and one is not.
You're so full of **** with these idiotic talking points.
I, and many others here, called for resignations of Cuomo, Weiner, Franken, Northam, Rangel, et. al.
You need to bump those threads, and don't edit the posts. I seriously doubt your claim.
No, I don't. I know what I said about them.
Right. Tell us how you called for investigation of Hunter's laptop and Joe Biden's connections to Chinese, Ukranian, & Russian businesses.
Don't believe I did either. But I have said if either Hunter or Joe committed any crimes they should be charged and tried.
The problem with this is that the "evidence" seems to be a bunch of stuff supposedly from the laptop with who knows what context applied to them. A laptop that could NEVER be used in any court proceeding since it's been passed around more than your average dollar bill.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 11:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:09 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: You're so full of **** with these idiotic talking points.
I, and many others here, called for resignations of Cuomo, Weiner, Franken, Northam, Rangel, et. al.
You need to bump those threads, and don't edit the posts. I seriously doubt your claim.
No, I don't. I know what I said about them.
Right. Tell us how you called for investigation of Hunter's laptop and Joe Biden's connections to Chinese, Ukranian, & Russian businesses.
Don't believe I did either. But I have said if either Hunter or Joe committed any crimes they should be charged and tried.
The problem with this is that the "evidence" seems to be a bunch of stuff supposedly from the laptop with who knows what context applied to them. A laptop that could NEVER be used in any court proceeding since it's been passed around more than your average dollar bill.
Phony. As usual.
The FBI has had the laptop for over 2 years. They have also refused to question Tony Bobulinski. If the shoe were on the other foot and this was about Eric Trump and DJT, you'd be screaming from the rooftops.
You know it. I know it. We all know it. Phony.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 11:39 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:09 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:36 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote: You need to bump those threads, and don't edit the posts. I seriously doubt your claim.
No, I don't. I know what I said about them.
Right. Tell us how you called for investigation of Hunter's laptop and Joe Biden's connections to Chinese, Ukranian, & Russian businesses.
Don't believe I did either. But I have said if either Hunter or Joe committed any crimes they should be charged and tried.
The problem with this is that the "evidence" seems to be a bunch of stuff supposedly from the laptop with who knows what context applied to them. A laptop that could NEVER be used in any court proceeding since it's been passed around more than your average dollar bill.
Phony. As usual.
The FBI has had the laptop for over 2 years. They have also refused to question Tony Bobulinski. If the shoe were on the other foot and this was about Eric Trump and DJT, you'd be screaming from the rooftops.
You know it. I know it. We all know it. Phony.
You don't know what they've done. They don't comment on ongoing investigations much at all. Just because you believe some red herring conspiracy theory with Tony B doesn't mean it's rooted in any fact.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 11:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:39 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:09 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: No, I don't. I know what I said about them.
Right. Tell us how you called for investigation of Hunter's laptop and Joe Biden's connections to Chinese, Ukranian, & Russian businesses.
Don't believe I did either. But I have said if either Hunter or Joe committed any crimes they should be charged and tried.
The problem with this is that the "evidence" seems to be a bunch of stuff supposedly from the laptop with who knows what context applied to them. A laptop that could NEVER be used in any court proceeding since it's been passed around more than your average dollar bill.
Phony. As usual.
The FBI has had the laptop for over 2 years. They have also refused to question Tony Bobulinski. If the shoe were on the other foot and this was about Eric Trump and DJT, you'd be screaming from the rooftops.
You know it. I know it. We all know it. Phony.
You don't know what they've done. They don't comment on ongoing investigations much at all. Just because you believe some red herring conspiracy theory with Tony B doesn't mean it's rooted in any fact.
Re-read your own post and apply it to yourself, regarding everything Trump.
The fact that you don't see your own hypocrisy is scary. Either you do see it and you are a complete phony or you are simply a babbling idiot. It's one or the other.
So which is it? Are you a complete phony or a total moron?
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:28 AM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:25 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Thanks. I assumed you both were talking about Swalwell.
So to answer the other question, this is actually worse. There's nothing I see to indicate that Feinstein knew the guy was a spy or that she lied about it.
Lying about military service is one of the worst things one can do, next to lying about having cancer...or at least it used to be.
You're entitled to believe what you want. But ignorance is no excuse for being a conduit to our enemies.
So....she should have known the guy was a spy...how exactly?
Evidently a problem with the vetting process. Zero excuses. Just like ignorance of the law is no excuse for not following the law, there is zero excuse for her being a conduit for espionage. While I fully agree that the dick you reference in the OP should be booted and replaced with a different candidate over the stolen valor, I think it's beyond stupid to say that the Chinese spy scandals with Feinstein and Swallwell was a lesser offense than lying about your service record.
You may crow about "whataboutism". Okay, but my point about discussing these 2 people (note, I did not originally bring them up) illustrates a larger point concerning the MSM who will go to the ends of the earth to find GOP scandals while trying to bury or ignore scandals of the Democrats. This is my actual beef - not that the candidate in the OP needs to be defended, but the MSM refuses to treat both sides equally.
Without knowing the EXACT vetting process, it's sort of hard to place blame on any one person or process. Of course it's bad to not catch them sooner, but they were caught. And I believe in both cases the investigations could not conclude anything was compromised. Of course, they can't know for certain.
No, not acceptable. People who are working closely to our elected officials should be regularly scrutinized - not just one time and done. No excuse, these Democrats allowed sensitive info to go to our enemy.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 12:13 PM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:39 AM)oruvoice Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 11:09 AM)oruvoice Wrote: Right. Tell us how you called for investigation of Hunter's laptop and Joe Biden's connections to Chinese, Ukranian, & Russian businesses.
Don't believe I did either. But I have said if either Hunter or Joe committed any crimes they should be charged and tried.
The problem with this is that the "evidence" seems to be a bunch of stuff supposedly from the laptop with who knows what context applied to them. A laptop that could NEVER be used in any court proceeding since it's been passed around more than your average dollar bill.
Phony. As usual.
The FBI has had the laptop for over 2 years. They have also refused to question Tony Bobulinski. If the shoe were on the other foot and this was about Eric Trump and DJT, you'd be screaming from the rooftops.
You know it. I know it. We all know it. Phony.
You don't know what they've done. They don't comment on ongoing investigations much at all. Just because you believe some red herring conspiracy theory with Tony B doesn't mean it's rooted in any fact.
Re-read your own post and apply it to yourself, regarding everything Trump.
The fact that you don't see your own hypocrisy is scary. Either you do see it and you are a complete phony or you are simply a babbling idiot. It's one or the other.
So which is it? Are you a complete phony or a total moron?
Don't know whether you noticed, but there's ******* photo of classified documents that trump had in his desk drawer.
And before you go to Russia, I abandoned that years ago, along with saying that collusion isn't a crime and there's no proof that trump personally did any such colluding.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 12:29 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:28 AM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 02:25 PM)miko33 Wrote: You're entitled to believe what you want. But ignorance is no excuse for being a conduit to our enemies.
So....she should have known the guy was a spy...how exactly?
Evidently a problem with the vetting process. Zero excuses. Just like ignorance of the law is no excuse for not following the law, there is zero excuse for her being a conduit for espionage. While I fully agree that the dick you reference in the OP should be booted and replaced with a different candidate over the stolen valor, I think it's beyond stupid to say that the Chinese spy scandals with Feinstein and Swallwell was a lesser offense than lying about your service record.
You may crow about "whataboutism". Okay, but my point about discussing these 2 people (note, I did not originally bring them up) illustrates a larger point concerning the MSM who will go to the ends of the earth to find GOP scandals while trying to bury or ignore scandals of the Democrats. This is my actual beef - not that the candidate in the OP needs to be defended, but the MSM refuses to treat both sides equally.
Without knowing the EXACT vetting process, it's sort of hard to place blame on any one person or process. Of course it's bad to not catch them sooner, but they were caught. And I believe in both cases the investigations could not conclude anything was compromised. Of course, they can't know for certain.
No, not acceptable. People who are working closely to our elected officials should be regularly scrutinized - not just one time and done. No excuse, these Democrats allowed sensitive info to go to our enemy.
Of course they do...never said otherwise.
But if you could, please source the bolded above in relation to either Swalwell or Feinstein. Thanks.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 07:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-21-2022 11:44 PM)banker Wrote: (09-21-2022 01:32 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (09-21-2022 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Used to be a disqualifier when the GOP pretended to be the party of the military, now it's a feature apparently to gain the endorsement of dear leader.
Perhaps nothing about Trump's political successes has ever surprised me more than the fact that his candidacy for the GOP nomination was not swiftly ended by his comments about Senator McCain. Whether you liked his politics or not, McCain was a bona fide war hero. Shows just how fast and hard the GOP has fallen from the party of Reagan over the past 25 years. The GOP that was enraged by Clinton's avoidance of service in the 1990s would never have nominated anyone who made similar comments about a war hero like Bob Dole, for instance.
If NW Ohio chooses JR Majewski over Rep. Marcy Kaptur then the Buckeye State is truly lost to MAGA. I think she'll be fine though, she's the longest currently serving woman in Congress and has never received less than 55% of the vote (that was back in 1984).
McCain was a war hero? I understand the logic behind the comment, just don’t agree with it. A hero is someone who takes specific action where they abandon their own self interest in order to protect their unit. It’s the guy who picks up the flame thrower and charges the bunker, it’s the guy who dives on the grenade.
McCain survived an intense personal test in captivity. That makes him a survivor, not a hero.
Maybe I misheard the story, but didn't they torture him for years to give up information on his country and/or fellow servicemen...but he never did?
Sounds pretty heroic to me.
Exactly. By any measure that is heroic. I never particularly was a fan of the guy but I considered him a war hero.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 12:29 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:28 AM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 07:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: So....she should have known the guy was a spy...how exactly?
Evidently a problem with the vetting process. Zero excuses. Just like ignorance of the law is no excuse for not following the law, there is zero excuse for her being a conduit for espionage. While I fully agree that the dick you reference in the OP should be booted and replaced with a different candidate over the stolen valor, I think it's beyond stupid to say that the Chinese spy scandals with Feinstein and Swallwell was a lesser offense than lying about your service record.
You may crow about "whataboutism". Okay, but my point about discussing these 2 people (note, I did not originally bring them up) illustrates a larger point concerning the MSM who will go to the ends of the earth to find GOP scandals while trying to bury or ignore scandals of the Democrats. This is my actual beef - not that the candidate in the OP needs to be defended, but the MSM refuses to treat both sides equally.
Without knowing the EXACT vetting process, it's sort of hard to place blame on any one person or process. Of course it's bad to not catch them sooner, but they were caught. And I believe in both cases the investigations could not conclude anything was compromised. Of course, they can't know for certain.
No, not acceptable. People who are working closely to our elected officials should be regularly scrutinized - not just one time and done. No excuse, these Democrats allowed sensitive info to go to our enemy.
Of course they do...never said otherwise.
But if you could, please source the bolded above in relation to either Swalwell or Feinstein. Thanks.
Then clearly if they weren't found out the first time vetted, maybe on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. But wrt Feinstein it was 20 years with the spy. Swallwell was fvcking his Chinese spy. So yes, they did allow it because again - ignorance is no excuse. They should have been taking more care regarding who they had working for them and who they were sleeping with. NO EXCUSES.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 01:55 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 12:29 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 08:28 AM)miko33 Wrote: Evidently a problem with the vetting process. Zero excuses. Just like ignorance of the law is no excuse for not following the law, there is zero excuse for her being a conduit for espionage. While I fully agree that the dick you reference in the OP should be booted and replaced with a different candidate over the stolen valor, I think it's beyond stupid to say that the Chinese spy scandals with Feinstein and Swallwell was a lesser offense than lying about your service record.
You may crow about "whataboutism". Okay, but my point about discussing these 2 people (note, I did not originally bring them up) illustrates a larger point concerning the MSM who will go to the ends of the earth to find GOP scandals while trying to bury or ignore scandals of the Democrats. This is my actual beef - not that the candidate in the OP needs to be defended, but the MSM refuses to treat both sides equally.
Without knowing the EXACT vetting process, it's sort of hard to place blame on any one person or process. Of course it's bad to not catch them sooner, but they were caught. And I believe in both cases the investigations could not conclude anything was compromised. Of course, they can't know for certain.
No, not acceptable. People who are working closely to our elected officials should be regularly scrutinized - not just one time and done. No excuse, these Democrats allowed sensitive info to go to our enemy.
Of course they do...never said otherwise.
But if you could, please source the bolded above in relation to either Swalwell or Feinstein. Thanks.
Then clearly if they weren't found out the first time vetted, maybe on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. But wrt Feinstein it was 20 years with the spy. Swallwell was fvcking his Chinese spy. So yes, they did allow it because again - ignorance is no excuse. They should have been taking more care regarding who they had working for them and who they were sleeping with. NO EXCUSES.
Just ******* stop. There is NO evidence of this.
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 01:55 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 12:29 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Without knowing the EXACT vetting process, it's sort of hard to place blame on any one person or process. Of course it's bad to not catch them sooner, but they were caught. And I believe in both cases the investigations could not conclude anything was compromised. Of course, they can't know for certain.
No, not acceptable. People who are working closely to our elected officials should be regularly scrutinized - not just one time and done. No excuse, these Democrats allowed sensitive info to go to our enemy.
Of course they do...never said otherwise.
But if you could, please source the bolded above in relation to either Swalwell or Feinstein. Thanks.
Then clearly if they weren't found out the first time vetted, maybe on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. But wrt Feinstein it was 20 years with the spy. Swallwell was fvcking his Chinese spy. So yes, they did allow it because again - ignorance is no excuse. They should have been taking more care regarding who they had working for them and who they were sleeping with. NO EXCUSES.
Just ******* stop. There is NO evidence of this.
LOL, sure he didn't...
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RE: Ohio House Candidate Lies About Military Service
(09-22-2022 02:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 01:55 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 01:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (09-22-2022 12:29 PM)miko33 Wrote: (09-22-2022 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Without knowing the EXACT vetting process, it's sort of hard to place blame on any one person or process. Of course it's bad to not catch them sooner, but they were caught. And I believe in both cases the investigations could not conclude anything was compromised. Of course, they can't know for certain.
No, not acceptable. People who are working closely to our elected officials should be regularly scrutinized - not just one time and done. No excuse, these Democrats allowed sensitive info to go to our enemy.
Of course they do...never said otherwise.
But if you could, please source the bolded above in relation to either Swalwell or Feinstein. Thanks.
Then clearly if they weren't found out the first time vetted, maybe on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. But wrt Feinstein it was 20 years with the spy. Swallwell was fvcking his Chinese spy. So yes, they did allow it because again - ignorance is no excuse. They should have been taking more care regarding who they had working for them and who they were sleeping with. NO EXCUSES.
Just ******* stop. There is NO evidence of this.
When you defend crooks like Swalwell & Fienstein, your railings against Repubs hold no weight and you show everyone that you are a intellectually dishonest.
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