(09-21-2022 09:02 PM)Poseidon Wrote: I was just curious how much the offense has changed since MDs departure. I know GG was an in house hire, but he could move it to a more strait up passing attack. Not MDs single read and run or pre play read style. Becucause the latter is what it seems he did with Ridder and Daniels at LSU looks like he is doing the exact same thing. So I am thinking it's as much MDs system as opposed to him working with what he has.
Dude -
We're happy Tulane is undefeated and appears to be on track for a great season. However, we WILL KICK YOUR ASS IN NIPPERT IN NOVEMBER.
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Seems to me the big10 has only gotten MORE top heavy
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Bolded, to some extent this remains true. I know B10 fans who insist the conference is on equal footing with the SEC competitively. It's hard to make that case since OSU is the only recent national champ in 2014. Since the Buckeyes won, the SEC has gone on to win five national championships among three different schools, LSU, Georgia, and Alabama (ACC Clemson won the other two). Adding Texas and Oklahoma adds elite football programs bringing even more firepower for the future; much more so than what Rutgers, Maryland, or even modern Nebraska will deliver to the B10.
Just like retirees from the Midwest, college football dominance has gone south...and stayed.
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Seems to me the big10 has only gotten MORE top heavy
Yeah I was just going to say that. The gap between the big two and say Illinois, Purdue, Indiana etc is wider than before. Take a lot at a lot of the scores between OSU and Michigan versus the field this past decade and you see more 59-7 romps than you did even 20 years ago. When UC takes the field against Indiana Saturday, the Bearcats will not be physically overmatched. If someone knew nothing about CFB they might think it was UC who was the “B10” team taking on a so-called G5 school.
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Seems to me the big10 has only gotten MORE top heavy
All those B1G schools take all their B1G money, re-do their facilities, have their own TV network... and still suck.
(09-22-2022 09:45 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: All those B1G schools take all their B1G money, re-do their facilities, have their own TV network... and still suck.
Mainly, they took the B1G money and paid off years off outstanding debt. Rutgers and Maryland weren't given equitable shares from the jump and were both in sizable financial holes when they left the Big East and ACC, respectively. The reason a lot of schools suck at football after making the jump is because it's more alluring for many universities to balance their athletic budget than it is to post winning records. Thankfully we're at a school that is attempting to succeed in both regards (though has operated under sizable debt for quite some time).
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Seems to me the big10 has only gotten MORE top heavy
Not really. Besides OSU and Michigan, in most years, Penn St., Iowa, Wisconsin and Sparty are Top 25 teams.
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Bolded, to some extent this remains true. I know B10 fans who insist the conference is on equal footing with the SEC competitively. It's hard to make that case since OSU is the only recent national champ in 2014. Since the Buckeyes won, the SEC has gone on to win five national championships among three different schools, LSU, Georgia, and Alabama (ACC Clemson won the other two). Adding Texas and Oklahoma adds elite football programs bringing even more firepower for the future; much more so than what Rutgers, Maryland, or even modern Nebraska will deliver to the B10.
Just like retirees from the Midwest, college football dominance has gone south...and stayed.
I think you have to compare the additions of Texas and Okla with USC and UCLA...not Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska.
(09-19-2022 11:42 PM)ZCat Wrote: I think Ben Bryant should start, but I was hoping to see Prater more in the Miami game. That was another negative caused by our sloppy play.
I’d like to get him game reps in case of an injury or to get ready for next year if Ben does not come back.
Also CLF said he wanted to get him more playing time. I enjoy watching both of them play. Another thing: I would love him to come in for a play here or there during a series and throw the defense off. Especially on the goal line.
Yeah... I basically said the exact same thing after the Arkansas game and was beat down by the stat wielding Prater haters that said in essence that he couldn't complete a pass to the ocean if he was standing on the beach.
I thought what you said was reasonable. I am not a Prater hater or Ben lover, just want wins. I know in general throwing a QB for a play here or there (or series) may throw things off, but Prater has a unique skill and he needs live reps. Remember last year we got few style points, so Dez played a lot in the 4th qtr.
Dave Simone said on BCJ podcast liked the idea of bringing in EP for a play here and there. I would prefer goal line wildcat/bearcat sometimes or lots of PT in blowouts. I am not saying he should alternate series. Hopefully this Sat will be a blow out win, and EP gets to play the 4th qtr.
BTW-I am not trying to start another round of arguments, I just was unable to post earlier.
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Seems to me the big10 has only gotten MORE top heavy
Not really. Besides OSU and Michigan, in most years, Penn St., Iowa, Wisconsin and Sparty are Top 25 teams.
The Big10 has always been the Big 2 and "the rest" regardless of who's in the Top 25 which is a manipulated thing anyway. Just look at Big 10 championships - only UM and O$U lead with 43 and 39 - no one else has even 20... and the next 2 in line? Illinois and Minn... Heck since like 1990 there's only been 10 years that either of the Big 2 didn't win or share the conf title.
With that said, most of the major football conf seem to be like that but probably not quite as top heavy to 2 teams
I wonder if guidugli/fickell haven't yet been able to customize the offense enough with Bryant at qb now that ridder is fine. And if that is contributing to the running game problems.
(09-21-2022 08:07 AM)vabearcat Wrote: You could look at it another way. Few Big Ten teams have any success against O$U. Take away our five losses to Columbus over the last two decades, and we are 4-4 against the remainder of the Big Ten. My guess is that if UC was in the Big Ten, we’d be .500 or better in conference games most years.
Outside of Michigan and Penn State, the rest of the B10 has been completely dominated historically by OSU. Even with Michigan, the majority of their 59 wins over the Buckeyes came prior to 1951*.
Indiana 77-12-5
Purdue 40-15-2
Illinois 68-30-4
Northwestern 64-14-1
Wisconsin 61-18-5
Minnesota 56-7
Iowa 46-15-3
Michigan State 35-15
Michigan 51-59-6 *
Penn State 22-14
Nebraska 9-1
I didn't look up Rutgers and Maryland but we all know the answer to those matchups. UC would be fine in the B10 against the rest of the field.
Historically, the Big 10 is really the Big Two and Little Eight. It is only the massive influx of TV money over the last 20 years that has even things out somewhat, along with the accession of Penn St. to the conference, although Penn St has not enjoyed the same success as they previously had as an independent.
Seems to me the big10 has only gotten MORE top heavy
Not really. Besides OSU and Michigan, in most years, Penn St., Iowa, Wisconsin and Sparty are Top 25 teams.
Meh, one or more of those are Top 25 due to their name and conference affiliation. MSU was good last year but they have not been as good as they once were lately.
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