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(09-10-2022 11:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-10-2022 11:04 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Paul Zeise of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette with a quality piece.

From what I can determine, Zeise (seemingly a mixed-race man) leans Libertarian.

This is thorough and well written.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/paul...2209090124

This is what an honest and thoughtful truth-seeking person does. Anarchists want needless martyrs and a rush to judgment and mob reaction. There was a time when this nation abhorred anarchists and encouraged the thoughtful to lead. I dearly miss those days because what we have now will end in more mindless violence, which of course is the goal of anarchists.

Academia should have the integrity to seek truth, promote thoughtfulness, pursue domestic tranquility, and should fire anarchists which work within their midst.

We need more truth-seekers in this great nation, JR. Too many folks on both the left and right have no interest in hearing the truth if it fails to bolster their social-political positions. Sad.
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(09-11-2022 10:37 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(09-10-2022 11:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-10-2022 11:04 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Paul Zeise of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette with a quality piece.

From what I can determine, Zeise (seemingly a mixed-race man) leans Libertarian.

This is thorough and well written.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/paul...2209090124

This is what an honest and thoughtful truth-seeking person does. Anarchists want needless martyrs and a rush to judgment and mob reaction. There was a time when this nation abhorred anarchists and encouraged the thoughtful to lead. I dearly miss those days because what we have now will end in more mindless violence, which of course is the goal of anarchists.

Academia should have the integrity to seek truth, promote thoughtfulness, pursue domestic tranquility, and should fire anarchists which work within their midst.

We need more truth-seekers in this great nation, JR. Too many folks on both the left and right have no interest in hearing the truth if it fails to bolster their social-political positions. Sad.

Solid article. I couldn't sleep last night so I stayed up and watched the Baylor BYU football game. Not that I am Baptist but I always want Texas schools to win when playing other state schools. BYU outplayed Baylor and had a chance to win the game in the final seconds but the white FG kicker missed a 30 something yard FG. Again same kicker missed another 30 something yard FG that could've won the game in OT. To be fair Baylor kicker missed a FG in OT and an extra point. BYU finally won on a TD in overtime and as fans stormed the field the camera focused in on BYU FG kicker crying and being embraced and consoled by his mixed race black QB.

This is what college sports is supposed to be about. Bringing folks of all color together.

The Duke VB player should watch this and be given a chance to redeem herself from the smear and lie she is perpetuating. She and her University are an embarrassment in my eyes. Everyone will make mistakes in this world and that is a fact. But, making mistakes doesn't define you as a person. How you respond to those mistakes does. At this point she has no integrity, accountability or credibility and the only ones still in her corner are liars as well. They are as guilty as her by association because the only thing it is doing for them is falsely justifying their misguided beliefs.
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(09-11-2022 11:45 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 10:37 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(09-10-2022 11:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-10-2022 11:04 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Paul Zeise of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette with a quality piece.

From what I can determine, Zeise (seemingly a mixed-race man) leans Libertarian.

This is thorough and well written.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/paul...2209090124

This is what an honest and thoughtful truth-seeking person does. Anarchists want needless martyrs and a rush to judgment and mob reaction. There was a time when this nation abhorred anarchists and encouraged the thoughtful to lead. I dearly miss those days because what we have now will end in more mindless violence, which of course is the goal of anarchists.

Academia should have the integrity to seek truth, promote thoughtfulness, pursue domestic tranquility, and should fire anarchists which work within their midst.

We need more truth-seekers in this great nation, JR. Too many folks on both the left and right have no interest in hearing the truth if it fails to bolster their social-political positions. Sad.

Solid article. I couldn't sleep last night so I stayed up and watched the Baylor BYU football game. Not that I am Baptist but I always want Texas schools to win when playing other state schools. BYU outplayed Baylor and had a chance to win the game in the final seconds but the white FG kicker missed a 30 something yard FG. Again same kicker missed another 30 something yard FG that could've won the game in OT. To be fair Baylor kicker missed a FG in OT and an extra point. BYU finally won on a TD in overtime and as fans stormed the field the camera focused in on BYU FG kicker crying and being embraced and consoled by his mixed race black QB.

This is what college sports is supposed to be about. Bringing folks of all color together.

The Duke VB player should watch this and be given a chance to redeem herself from the smear and lie she is perpetuating. She and her University are an embarrassment in my eyes. Everyone will make mistakes in this world and that is a fact. But, making mistakes doesn't define you as a person. How you respond to those mistakes does. At this point she has no integrity, accountability or credibility and the only ones still in her corner are liars as well. They are as guilty as her by association because the only thing it is doing for them is falsely justifying their misguided beliefs.

Agree fully.
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(09-09-2022 06:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Fake!

Another Hate Hoax: BYU Says No Evidence to Corroborate Claims Fan Shouted N-Word at Black Duke Volleyball Player

It's called "looking" for someone to offend you. She probably misheard some comment over all the game noise and really thinks in her mind it happened. The overwhelming evidence indicates this is BS. The fact that her Aunt posted that this happened EVERY time she served the ball and that she was threatened after the game with ZERO evidence...in fact...evidence to the contrary is glaring.07-coffee3
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Too bad being a victim isn’t a paying job. Then again, that’s what reparations are for.
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(09-11-2022 02:29 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 06:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Fake!

Another Hate Hoax: BYU Says No Evidence to Corroborate Claims Fan Shouted N-Word at Black Duke Volleyball Player

It's called "looking" for someone to offend you. She probably misheard some comment over all the game noise and really thinks in her mind it happened. The overwhelming evidence indicates this is BS. The fact that her Aunt posted that this happened EVERY time she served the ball and that she was threatened after the game with ZERO evidence...in fact...evidence to the contrary is glaring.07-coffee3

Makes me wonder how much of this is due to the aunt pushing the narrative.
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RE: Ugly racist incident at BYU
(09-11-2022 02:29 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 06:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Fake!

Another Hate Hoax: BYU Says No Evidence to Corroborate Claims Fan Shouted N-Word at Black Duke Volleyball Player

It's called "looking" for someone to offend you. She probably misheard some comment over all the game noise and really thinks in her mind it happened. The overwhelming evidence indicates this is BS. The fact that her Aunt posted that this happened EVERY time she served the ball and that she was threatened after the game with ZERO evidence...in fact...evidence to the contrary is glaring.07-coffee3

Given the almost immediate involvement by the absolutely racist “godmother”, I’m gonna call BS and this girl should be expelled. Oh, we only have that standard for white folks….
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(09-12-2022 12:47 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(09-11-2022 02:29 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(09-09-2022 06:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Fake!

Another Hate Hoax: BYU Says No Evidence to Corroborate Claims Fan Shouted N-Word at Black Duke Volleyball Player

It's called "looking" for someone to offend you. She probably misheard some comment over all the game noise and really thinks in her mind it happened. The overwhelming evidence indicates this is BS. The fact that her Aunt posted that this happened EVERY time she served the ball and that she was threatened after the game with ZERO evidence...in fact...evidence to the contrary is glaring.07-coffee3

Makes me wonder how much of this is due to the aunt pushing the narrative.

Who told the aunt?
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NPR is a bit late to the party with this article. But it is now on record:

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/14/112297738...cial-slurs
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All we have to do now is take these lies and make them true somehow
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(09-14-2022 03:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  All we have to do now is take these lies and make them true somehow

You gotta give what you take
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Good grief, we still talking about another racial hoax? If so, it was successful.
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(09-14-2022 04:30 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Good grief, we still talking about another racial hoax? If so, it was successful.

yes
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(09-14-2022 04:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(09-14-2022 03:21 PM)fsquid Wrote:  All we have to do now is take these lies and make them true somehow

You gotta give what you take

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Basketball coach who fell for BYU-Duke race hoax stands by decision to cancel games


Quote:University of South Carolina coach Dawn Staley has no regrets about canceling games based on debunked claim

A college women’s basketball coach who fell for a hoax about a black volleyball player being called the “N-word” and canceled two games against Brigham Young University as a result does not regret her decision.

“I continue to stand by my position,” University of South Carolina’s Dawn Staley said, according to a media statement sent to The College Fix by the university’s women’s basketball contact Diana Koval.

Staley said she had “vetted” the accusations from Duke’s Rachel Richardson that the player had been called the “N-word” in August during a game against BYU and as a result canceled games in 2022 and 2023 against the university.

A thorough investigation from the Mormon university that included interviews with more than 50 people and a review of video from the game yielded no suspects. A special needs individual who had been labeled as the racist by Duke’s volleyball team has been unbanned from games and issued an apology form BYU.

“After my personal research, I made a decision for the well-being of my team,” Staley (pictured) continued in her statement. “I regret that my university, my athletics director Ray Tanner and others got drawn into the criticism of a choice that I made.”

Even at the time of her decision, all BYU had done was identify someone based on an accusation from Duke players – it did not have video of that individual saying the slurs.

Others who rushed to condemn the incident before any video had emerged backtracked on their statements.

“I’m disgusted that this behavior is happening and deeply saddened if others didn’t step up to stop it,” Utah’s Republican Governor Spencer Cox tweeted on August 27, just a day after allegations began to circulate thanks to Richardson’s godmother, Lesa Pamplin. The political candidate from Texas claimed that “every time” Richardson served, someone uttered the “N-word,” a statement at odds with her goddaughter’s own claims.

“As a society we have to do more to create an atmosphere where racist a**holes like this never feel comfortable attacking others,” Cox wrote.



His office referred The Fix to the statement he posted on Twitter.

“After recently reported allegations of racism, I followed BYU’s own statement and condemned the incident in the strongest possible terms,” Cox said. “Subsequently, it appears that neither the school, the media, law enforcement nor anyone else in the arena has been able to confirm these allegations.”

“I will always speak out against racism. I also believe it is important to step back and acknowledge new facts as they come to light and speak publicly about them as well,” he wrote. “Part of that requires patience, something I could have done better in this situation. I apologize to the fan who apparently was unfairly singled out.”

Governor Cox also deleted his previous tweet that condemned BYU and the accused fan.

An ESPN commentator said he would not accuse Richardson of lying, but urged others to be more cautious in the future before believing claims of racism.

“I’m saying BYU- you did it,” ESPN’s Stephen Smith initially said on air. “By allowing this to happen and not addressing expeditiously, not addressing it with a level of quickness and speed that you should’ve addressed this with.”

ESPN did not respond to a request for comment from Smith on his statements about the situation.

The Fix emailed ESPN’s general email but has received no response.

Smith responded to BYU’s investigation and said it could be taken “one of two ways” and now, after an extensive inquiry had yielded no proof of the incident, Smith suggested some people could be “skeptical” about the results.

“You can either believe BYU and take them at their word, or you can be a bit cynical and skeptical about them drawing this conclusion, questioning what level of veracity should we attach to them,” Smith said. “Pick your side.”

“Racism, prejudice, still exists in this country,” Smith said. He said “we’re not doing ourselves any favors if we bring it up and broach it [racism] when it doesn’t exist.”





He said he was “not saying” that Richardson’s “allegations were false” but that he wanted other people to know to be careful not to jump to conclusions about racism without strong evidence.

Other commentators have not withdrawn past statements.

Mike Freeman, the race and inequality editor for the sports section at USA Today, wrote a column on September 7 that called the investigations by those who debunked the allegations a “right-wing conspiracy theory” akin to the conspiracies of “QAnon.”

That followed an August 27 column where he called Richardson a “hero” and called for an in-depth investigation. “What needs to happen next is a full investigation by BYU. If the school simply tries to move on with nothing but a statement that simply isn’t acceptable,” he wrote. “They need to interview players and coaches and the question consistently needs to be asked: why wasn’t the game stopped?”





He has not responded to The Fix’s email for further comment and has not written any further columns after the “full investigation by BYU” yielded no proof of racism.

Duke’s athletics director Nina King did not retract her previous comments. Duke athletes “should always have the opportunity to compete in an inclusive, anti-racist environment which promotes equality and fair play,” King said on August 27.

After BYU released its statement concluding there was no evidence of Richardson’s allegations, Duke University vice president and director of athletics Nina King responded:

The 18 members of the Duke University volleyball team are exceptionally strong women who represent themselves, their families, and Duke University with the utmost integrity. We unequivocally stand with and champion them, especially when their character is called into question. Duke Athletics believes in respect, equality and inclusiveness, and we do not tolerate hate and bias.

Duke has not responded to The College Fix’s email asking if it has any further statements.
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Every left-leaning American who originally assumed the N-word had been used (including this lefty) needs to be firm and clear — and admit the following:

"There is zero evidence the word was used."

End of discussion. No qualifiers. One sentence. Simple.
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(09-20-2022 11:51 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Every left-leaning American who originally assumed the N-word had been used (including this lefty) needs to be firm and clear — and admit the following:

"There is zero evidence the word was used."

End of discussion. No qualifiers. One sentence. Simple.

I agree. I do however think Racheal believes she heard something. It is completely plausible that she simply misheard a comment and from there started listening for them. It's a most likely a case of confirmation bias. She has most likely been programmed by those around her to "LOOK" for this stuff. If you look hard enough..you will find it..even if it is untrue.07-coffee3 I feel sorry for the girl... not angry at her.07-coffee3
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(09-11-2022 11:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Too bad being a victim isn’t a paying job. Then again, that’s what reparations are for.

The position is called politician.
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(09-20-2022 11:51 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Every left-leaning American who originally assumed the N-word had been used (including this lefty) needs to be firm and clear — and admit the following:

"There is zero evidence the word was used."

End of discussion. No qualifiers. One sentence. Simple.

I agree. I do however think Racheal believes she heard something. It is completely plausible that she simply misheard a comment and from there started listening for them. It's a most likely a case of confirmation bias. She has most likely been programmed by those around her to "LOOK" for this stuff. If you look hard enough..you will find it..even if it is untrue.07-coffee3 I feel sorry for the girl... not angry at her.07-coffee3

I agree. I believe Richardson genuinely believed she heard the N-word. She told her godmother and the situation quickly spiraled out of control. Sadly, now Richardson likely is too uncomfortable to publicly say the following: "I truly thought I heard the word. But based on there being no evidence and nobody else having admitted to having heard the word, it seems I was wrong."

It would be wonderful to hear this from her. But, and because of the "confirmation bias" you note and because the godmother and the liberal media would go ballistic ... Richardson will keep silent.

I'm a lefty. But the details of the incident are almost crystal clear.
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(09-20-2022 03:09 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(09-20-2022 01:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(09-20-2022 11:51 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Every left-leaning American who originally assumed the N-word had been used (including this lefty) needs to be firm and clear — and admit the following:

"There is zero evidence the word was used."

End of discussion. No qualifiers. One sentence. Simple.

I agree. I do however think Racheal believes she heard something. It is completely plausible that she simply misheard a comment and from there started listening for them. It's a most likely a case of confirmation bias. She has most likely been programmed by those around her to "LOOK" for this stuff. If you look hard enough..you will find it..even if it is untrue.07-coffee3 I feel sorry for the girl... not angry at her.07-coffee3

I agree. I believe Richardson genuinely believed she heard the N-word. She told her godmother and the situation quickly spiraled out of control. Sadly, now Richardson likely is too uncomfortable to publicly say the following: "I truly thought I heard the word. But based on there being no evidence and nobody else having admitted to having heard the word, it seems I was wrong."

It would be wonderful to hear this from her. But, and because of the "confirmation bias" you note and because the godmother and the liberal media would go ballistic ... Richardson will keep silent.

I'm a lefty. But the details of the incident are almost crystal clear.

Dude, come on. She's a lying sack of sh!t.

I will though, give her credit for being smarter than Jussie Smollett and not looking like an idiot for doubling down on it.
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