(09-18-2022 11:56 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 07:27 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  It was a really good effort from start to finish, minus the interceptions (and a few too many penalties). But if we weren't throwing the interceptions (and as often as we are), you'd probably have people complaining non-stop about running the ball too much. I think Rice has a chance to compete for a bowl if we can stay healthy at key positions.

I don’t think anyone would complain if instead of throwing interceptions the Owls were throwing completions downfield. I would complain if the only option to throwing completions was the toss back or McGuffie up the middle.

Agree it was a good win for the team. Now they need to build on it and keep improving. The players and Tui may save Bloom’s job yet. It’s good to see him grow as a coach and move away from PTR.

It makes me wonder how well we would have done if he had moved away from PTR a couple years ago. Long overdue. I hope it pays off for him in the end.

(09-17-2022 08:06 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Getting ****** up the ass by the refs

When refs come to Rice, they are "housed" in the officials' locker room and what was once the visiting team locker room.
These are on the east side of the tunnel, now adjacent to the band hall, and I get to see these areas all the time.
These facilities are not in great condition.
The floor isn't level.
There are enormous cracks in the walls.
The toilets and urinals are deeply stained where rusty water stood for months during the off-season.

I've recently met most of the facilities group in the Athletic Department, and they are good and dedicated people.
I believe they are hampered in this situation by the same benign neglect and lack of budget that the public-facing areas of the stadium have suffered from for so long.

After most of the football program moved to the north end of the stadium, the south end was all-but abandoned.
Out of sight, out of mind.

There was some work done on the west side of the tunnel before this season started, in what was once our locker room, and is now used by the visiting team(s).
Ceiling tiles and light bulbs were replaced.
Holes in the walls were patched (the size and shape of someone punching the wall).

Perhaps, if we showed the refs some respect, they might show us some respect.
Find some money.
Spend it on these problems.

(09-18-2022 01:12 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:08 AM)Cajuns1 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 12:32 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Some type of controversy emerging on Twitter with UL players claiming Brandon Nutter was using racial slurs on the field and touching them where the sun don’t shine. Hopefully just sour grapes.

There’s actual video of him sticking fingers up a players rear end. Happy to share if you need further proof, but it’s widely available. I’ll take the L, but the player that claimed the racial stuff is not a guy who would make baseless claims.

Would be really interested in seeing whatever this is based upon.

Yeah... I can't rule it out (wasn't there and don't know him) but we have plenty of people from all races on our team, and such things wouldn't be tolerated and would tear the team apart... and rightfully so....

and as to the latter, I'm wondering why UL players aren't wearning pants such that such a thing could happen? I mean, these uniforms aren't made of thin cotton.

I mean, there's also video of two cowboy players hugging/embracing on the field during a play, but that doesn't mean that it was done on purpose.

(09-19-2022 09:53 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:12 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:08 AM)Cajuns1 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 12:32 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Some type of controversy emerging on Twitter with UL players claiming Brandon Nutter was using racial slurs on the field and touching them where the sun don’t shine. Hopefully just sour grapes.

There’s actual video of him sticking fingers up a players rear end. Happy to share if you need further proof, but it’s widely available. I’ll take the L, but the player that claimed the racial stuff is not a guy who would make baseless claims.

Would be really interested in seeing whatever this is based upon.

Yeah... I can't rule it out (wasn't there and don't know him) but we have plenty of people from all races on our team, and such things wouldn't be tolerated and would tear the team apart... and rightfully so....

and as to the latter, I'm wondering why UL players aren't wearning pants such that such a thing could happen? I mean, these uniforms aren't made of thin cotton.

I'm not sure there are any pants that could stop a dude from shoving his hand up your ass. That video alone warrants a suspension. We don't need that kind of distraction taking away from our wins. Controversy relating to the refs is one thing, controversy because there's a video of our guy sticking his fingers in someone's ass to evoke a reaction is another

(09-18-2022 03:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:18 PM)Barney Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:12 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:08 AM)Cajuns1 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 12:32 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Some type of controversy emerging on Twitter with UL players claiming Brandon Nutter was using racial slurs on the field and touching them where the sun don’t shine. Hopefully just sour grapes.

There’s actual video of him sticking fingers up a players rear end. Happy to share if you need further proof, but it’s widely available. I’ll take the L, but the player that claimed the racial stuff is not a guy who would make baseless claims.

Would be really interested in seeing whatever this is based upon.

From watching the game, this is exactly what I imagined was going on, from the actions and behaviors of the players involved --- before reading any of this today.
I might not believe it if it was anyone other than Nutter.
Though racial slurring would seem to be extremely unlikely, this could completely destroy a team from the inside, and needs to be crushed immediately by the coaching staff -- suspension if confirmed.

Why believable about Nutter?

I agree this needs to be dealt with swiftly, but I would like tangible evidence rather than he said/she said.

He got benched after a personal foul on the first drive of the McNeese game. Was also mixing it up with some USC players out there a couple of times. Could've been flagged but refs let it go.

(09-18-2022 05:35 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(09-17-2022 08:06 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Getting ****** up the ass by the refs

When refs come to Rice, they are "housed" in the officials' locker room and what was once the visiting team locker room.
These are on the east side of the tunnel, now adjacent to the band hall, and I get to see these areas all the time.
These facilities are not in great condition.
The floor isn't level.
There are enormous cracks in the walls.
The toilets and urinals are deeply stained where rusty water stood for months during the off-season.
I've recently met most of the facilities group in the Athletic Department, and they are good and dedicated people.
I believe they are hampered in this situation by the same benign neglect and lack of budget that the public-facing areas of the stadium have suffered from for so long.
After most of the football program moved to the north end of the stadium, the south end was all-but abandoned.
Out of sight, out of mind.
There was some work done on the west side of the tunnel before this season started, in what was once our locker room, and is now used by the visiting team(s).
Ceiling tiles and light bulbs were replaced.
Holes in the walls were patched (the size and shape of someone punching the wall).
Perhaps, if we showed the refs some respect, they might show us some respect.
Find some money.
Spend it on these problems.

Facility maintenance has never been a hallmark of Rice athletics.

(09-19-2022 10:01 AM)TheOwl84 Wrote:  

(09-19-2022 09:53 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:12 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 01:08 AM)Cajuns1 Wrote:  

(09-18-2022 12:32 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Some type of controversy emerging on Twitter with UL players claiming Brandon Nutter was using racial slurs on the field and touching them where the sun don’t shine. Hopefully just sour grapes.

There’s actual video of him sticking fingers up a players rear end. Happy to share if you need further proof, but it’s widely available. I’ll take the L, but the player that claimed the racial stuff is not a guy who would make baseless claims.

Would be really interested in seeing whatever this is based upon.

Yeah... I can't rule it out (wasn't there and don't know him) but we have plenty of people from all races on our team, and such things wouldn't be tolerated and would tear the team apart... and rightfully so....

and as to the latter, I'm wondering why UL players aren't wearning pants such that such a thing could happen? I mean, these uniforms aren't made of thin cotton.

I'm not sure there are any pants that could stop a dude from shoving his hand up your ass. That video alone warrants a suspension. We don't need that kind of distraction taking away from our wins. Controversy relating to the refs is one thing, controversy because there's a video of our guy sticking his fingers in someone's ass to evoke a reaction is another

Haven't seen the video (was it posted?) but if it's as you describe it, I agree- that's BS behavior and shouldn't be tolerated.

Having said that, I vaguely remember a Clemson LB doing the exact same thing in a game a few years ago and the annoucers reaction was laughter...

I certainly would be fighting mad if I was on the receiving end of that BS.

As to the racial comments- I am with Ham, it's hard to believe that would happen given the makeup of the teams, and the fact that there wasn't more made of it. That said, if it is true- then again that is completeley unacceptable and should be dealt with by the coaches/ team

Good afternoon.

I just wanted to return to say congrats. Yall's Owls whipped our team's (players and coaches) up and down the field all damn evening. I'd hate to think what the score would have been without our three INTs.

My family and I (and our friends) enjoyed tailgating, enjoyed the evening, and I think one of yall's parking lot attendance enjoyed the boudin stuffed grilled cheese sandwich I gave her.

I really do feel bad for yall's athletes, though. It seems the support they get attendance-wise is much less than they deserve. I've seen it in baseball, and now football.

Hope it improves for them. Wish ya'll good luck the rest of the season!

Have not seen a win like that for many years.

this remind me about beating Memphis in 2008.

(09-19-2022 03:58 PM)PetroCajun Wrote:  Good afternoon.

I just wanted to return to say congrats. Yall's Owls whipped our team's (players and coaches) up and down the field all damn evening. I'd hate to think what the score would have been without our three INTs.

My family and I (and our friends) enjoyed tailgating, enjoyed the evening, and I think one of yall's parking lot attendance enjoyed the boudin stuffed grilled cheese sandwich I gave her.

I really do feel bad for yall's athletes, though. It seems the support they get attendance-wise is much less than they deserve. I've seen it in baseball, and now football.

Hope it improves for them. Wish ya'll good luck the rest of the season!

boudin. stuffed. grilled. cheese. sandwich.

Let’s hope we can get you on our baseball schedule again this spring and maybe I need to come down to Houston for some *real* tailgating.

Attendance will definitely improve after word gets around that Rice is “back”.
We are a tiny school, and athletics is not ingrained in our culture like it is many other places. But we will get excited and turn out for a team that can be competitive. It has been a minute since we’ve played a game that complete in Rice Stadium. But I don’t think it was a fluke. This year’s team has more special performances ahead.

Hope you guys go undefeated rest of the year. We are trying to get the students out of the library and become a normal student. However, we have been terrible in football the last ten years.

(09-19-2022 03:58 PM)PetroCajun Wrote:  Good afternoon.

I just wanted to return to say congrats. Yall's Owls whipped our team's (players and coaches) up and down the field all damn evening. I'd hate to think what the score would have been without our three INTs.

My family and I (and our friends) enjoyed tailgating, enjoyed the evening, and I think one of yall's parking lot attendance enjoyed the boudin stuffed grilled cheese sandwich I gave her.

I really do feel bad for yall's athletes, though. It seems the support they get attendance-wise is much less than they deserve. I've seen it in baseball, and now football.

Hope it improves for them. Wish ya'll good luck the rest of the season!

(09-19-2022 10:15 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Hope you guys go undefeated rest of the year. We are trying to get the students out of the library and become a normal student. However, we have been terrible in football the last ten years.

(09-19-2022 03:58 PM)PetroCajun Wrote:  Good afternoon.

I just wanted to return to say congrats. Yall's Owls whipped our team's (players and coaches) up and down the field all damn evening. I'd hate to think what the score would have been without our three INTs.

My family and I (and our friends) enjoyed tailgating, enjoyed the evening, and I think one of yall's parking lot attendance enjoyed the boudin stuffed grilled cheese sandwich I gave her.

I really do feel bad for yall's athletes, though. It seems the support they get attendance-wise is much less than they deserve. I've seen it in baseball, and now football.

Hope it improves for them. Wish ya'll good luck the rest of the season!

Something tells me there are plenty of students out of the library, but like you said, we have been so awful for so long that it's hampered turnout. Students have a lot of other options for entertainment on Saturday afternoon. The performance last weekend is a good building block to make a case that our games can be entertaining and we can win.

(09-19-2022 03:58 PM)PetroCajun Wrote:  Good afternoon.

I just wanted to return to say congrats. Yall's Owls whipped our team's (players and coaches) up and down the field all damn evening. I'd hate to think what the score would have been without our three INTs.

My family and I (and our friends) enjoyed tailgating, enjoyed the evening, and I think one of yall's parking lot attendance enjoyed the boudin stuffed grilled cheese sandwich I gave her.

I really do feel bad for yall's athletes, though. It seems the support they get attendance-wise is much less than they deserve. I've seen it in baseball, and now football.

Hope it improves for them. Wish ya'll good luck the rest of the season!

Thanks, PC. Putting a winning program on the field is a first step to improving attendance, and winning games is a first step toward having a winning program. Give us some more time.

(09-20-2022 08:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(09-19-2022 10:15 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Hope you guys go undefeated rest of the year. We are trying to get the students out of the library and become a normal student. However, we have been terrible in football the last ten years.

(09-19-2022 03:58 PM)PetroCajun Wrote:  Good afternoon.

I just wanted to return to say congrats. Yall's Owls whipped our team's (players and coaches) up and down the field all damn evening. I'd hate to think what the score would have been without our three INTs.

My family and I (and our friends) enjoyed tailgating, enjoyed the evening, and I think one of yall's parking lot attendance enjoyed the boudin stuffed grilled cheese sandwich I gave her.

I really do feel bad for yall's athletes, though. It seems the support they get attendance-wise is much less than they deserve. I've seen it in baseball, and now football.

Hope it improves for them. Wish ya'll good luck the rest of the season!

Something tells me there are plenty of students out of the library, but like you said, we have been so awful for so long that it's hampered turnout. Students have a lot of other options for entertainment on Saturday afternoon. The performance last weekend is a good building block to make a case that our games can be entertaining and we can win.

What pulls them into the stadium is national TV coverage.
There is something about a chance of being on TV for 3 seconds that gets them to show up and stay.
(I am so thoroughly disgusted with what TV and TV money has done to college athletics that I'm unable to be very objective about this. Media times out that last four minutes for commercials. 11am starts. Thursday games. Ugh.)
Having a team or opponent that garners national TV is what gets us there.
Short of that, free food or t-shirts.
The game itself is probably not that compelling, even if we have an exciting team that wins games.

(09-20-2022 10:23 AM)Grungy Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 08:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(09-19-2022 10:15 PM)Texasowl Wrote:  Hope you guys go undefeated rest of the year. We are trying to get the students out of the library and become a normal student. However, we have been terrible in football the last ten years.

(09-19-2022 03:58 PM)PetroCajun Wrote:  Good afternoon.

I just wanted to return to say congrats. Yall's Owls whipped our team's (players and coaches) up and down the field all damn evening. I'd hate to think what the score would have been without our three INTs.

My family and I (and our friends) enjoyed tailgating, enjoyed the evening, and I think one of yall's parking lot attendance enjoyed the boudin stuffed grilled cheese sandwich I gave her.

I really do feel bad for yall's athletes, though. It seems the support they get attendance-wise is much less than they deserve. I've seen it in baseball, and now football.

Hope it improves for them. Wish ya'll good luck the rest of the season!

Something tells me there are plenty of students out of the library, but like you said, we have been so awful for so long that it's hampered turnout. Students have a lot of other options for entertainment on Saturday afternoon. The performance last weekend is a good building block to make a case that our games can be entertaining and we can win.

What pulls them into the stadium is national TV coverage.
There is something about a chance of being on TV for 3 seconds that gets them to show up and stay.
(I am so thoroughly disgusted with what TV and TV money has done to college athletics that I'm unable to be very objective about this. Media times out that last four minutes for commercials. 11am starts. Thursday games. Ugh.)
Having a team or opponent that garners national TV is what gets us there.
Short of that, free food or t-shirts.
The game itself is probably not that compelling, even if we have an exciting team that wins games.

So maybe someone who is more familiar with current campus life can help me. While coming to the stadium on Saturday, I thought that I saw an intramural game or perhaps a club game happening on the fields just east of the stadium. It seems to me that one step would be to prioritize University athletic events over intramural events.

Grungy summed it up best. It’s all about TV money, specifically ESPN. NFL is Fox , major networks, and even Amazon. ESPN has a stranglehold on college. As mentioned before soon college football will be the 40 to 48 haves and then the rest. The teams with huge 100,000 seat stadiums that generate over 10 million per game will be the survivors. Most of them are central and east coast time zones, ie SEC Big 10. Very few west coast teams will be in that group, maybe USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington. ESPN will see to it that the Iowa States, Kansas, Nebraska, Vanderbilt’s, Utah , Arizonas are outside looking in. Not enough eyeballs or attendance numbers. Why go to a game live? Kids are used to screens and now you can stream everywhere. Personally I doubt Rice kids would go to a game even if they knew they would be on TV. Since ESPN is back east there is even that bias. Rutgers , Syracuse,or Penn State will get more pub over any team west of the Mississippi with the same record. Finally the money. Just a few years back the NCAA came down on teams buying a player a meal or even paying for an airplane ticket for a funeral. But now the Horns spent north of $700,000 on a weekend of recruiting a handful of players including a Manning kid. The have nots can’t compete, but even worse in my opinion is
the message sent to these 17 to 18 year old kids that their **** don’t stink. I wonder how many of those kids that stayed in the Four Seasons will ever see a football field on Sunday.Hopefully the college presidents of the schools left behind will still embrace college sports and form more regional leagues. Yea our athletic department watched the bus leave the depot.
But soon the SMU, TCU, Baylor, Houston’s that waved goodbye to us will be in the same boat. They aren’t big enough and can’t generate the cash. The only question is the group of 48 or so will all have about .500 records unless they play the little brothers to pad their records. And we will have to take the money just to pay for the training table , tape , and helmets.

I’m not in tune with the current student body, but it surprises me to think that they wouldn’t come out to support a winning team that had a little buzz around it.

A good test will be the student attendance against UAB if we beat UH.

Though now that I think about it, the students aren’t really any different than alumni and non-affiliated fans in this regard. They have a closer proximity to the game/team, but it’s not like I attended every event on campus when I was a student either lol

Other than Texas it’s not like we take a lot of students from the hotbeds of college football. The northeast isn’t a big college football region and neither is California. International students typically have minimal interest.

Even large state schools outside of Texas, the southeast and certain parts of the Midwest can’t fill their student sections.

(09-20-2022 01:48 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Other than Texas it’s not like we take a lot of students from the hotbeds of college football. The northeast isn’t a big college football region and neither is California. International students typically have minimal interest.

Even large state schools outside of Texas, the southeast and certain parts of the Midwest can’t fill their student sections.

Add PAC 12 to that list too...

(09-20-2022 02:08 PM)Intellectual_Brutality Wrote:  

(09-20-2022 01:48 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Other than Texas it’s not like we take a lot of students from the hotbeds of college football. The northeast isn’t a big college football region and neither is California. International students typically have minimal interest.

Even large state schools outside of Texas, the southeast and certain parts of the Midwest can’t fill their student sections.

Add PAC 12 to that list too...

Speaking of PAC 12...
https://csnbbs.com/thread-955740.html
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-sp...ingling-on