(09-02-2022 10:41 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:35 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:24 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You do realize that you're bolstering Biden's point, right?

Biden's only point is that he hates half of America's citizens.

As opposed to the countless characterizations of 'liberal trash', 'Democrat cockroaches' that appear endlessly in these threads?

Your issue above seemingly has a serious lack of self-awareness in it of the general and very often verbalized comments in these boards themselves.

This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

Interesting point. Both sides of the unwashed masses do this on various forums and in social media. That said - don't you think it's different when someone who is famous and in a position of authority saying these things?

I think that is a very valid point. One that I just commented on in response to another poster making that same argument.

But, that doesnt, and shouldnt, insulate everyone's actions in that manner.

That is, when Bill Clinton perjured himself, that should not be taken as an excuse for anyone and everyone else to do that. I was doing more litigation when Bill did that -- and that was a huge blow to the legal system. The rationale was that if the President can lie in deposition, then that is fair game for everyone. Same idea holds here as well in my mind.

Understood. I know you are referring to the notion that as individuals each of us should not be excused to for bad behavior just because we see others - people in authority in particular - doing it. I'm going to say that I think we're past the point of no return on matters of politics and civility from the standpoint of regular people interacting on social media and message boards.

It's so much more complex than what you say it to be when we factor in the psychology behind social media, the manipulations made to people to intentionally ramp up heated rhetoric all in the name of traffic and ratings. Our gov't and corporate leaders - social media and news organizations especially - have manipulated most of us into a the so-called "Mexican standoff". We've been conditioned to NOT show weakness under any circumstance lest you are metaphorically "killed" by your side losing. What you propose is basically for the tail to wag the dog. It's not tenable.

What NEEDS TO HAPPEN is for someone in a position of LEADERSHIP and AUTHORITY - say the current LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD - should be THE PERSON to TURN DOWN THE HEATED RHETORIC given our current climate because he is the ONE PERSON who SHOULD be able to make it HAPPEN.

You may feel that we are to blame for some of this. Us regular people are not. I refuse to accept it. People with real authority and power need to step up to the bar and start the change back to better times. The real root cause to all of us is a loss of an independent and free press. All of the media is owned by a corporation - all of them. Social media is a part of the free and independent press by proxy. The vast majority of those in control of our media are compromised and heavily in favor of one political party. We all know it, and this is the true evil that is destroying everything.

Our fourth branch of gov't abandoned its duty and obligations a long, long time ago. We've been fvcked because of it.

(09-02-2022 11:26 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:24 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:14 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  3 tops

You do realize that you're bolstering Biden's point, right?

Biden's only point is that he hates half of America's citizens.

As opposed to the countless characterizations of 'liberal trash', 'Democrat cockroaches' that appear endlessly in these threads?

Your issue above seemingly has a serious lack of self-awareness in it of the general and very often verbalized comments in these boards themselves.

This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

I'm sorry, I was not aware I was the President of the United States.

Im sorry, I didnt say you were. You act as though the tone and tenor are solely the job of the President. Note again --

Quote:This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

But all I see is how justified you all are for taking the same tone and tenor. Got it.

What it actually looked like vs what the MAGA talking heads are pushing :

(09-02-2022 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Oh---Biden can say anything he wants. I'd fight for his ability to speak his mind. But its also the right of conservatives to call out the fact that this fraud ran on a "competency", "moderation", and "unity" platform and last nights speech---in fact his whole administration---has been the complete antithesis of competence, moderation, and unity.

Now he's literally calling nearly half the voters of the US a "danger to democracy" and threatening US citizens with F-15's. His own White House press secretary jumped into the fray claiming any view that is not a "majority" view is "extreme" and a danger to democracy. This is now the official view of the leader of the free world. If Trump had made this speech, the media would literally lose its mind.

Frankly---it should not matter which party's leader spews a hate laden speech deriding anyone who disagrees with him as a "danger to democracy". Its twisted, delusional, and dangerous. The fact the media has not attacked this president mercilessly over delivering this hate filled divisive rant is a testament to how sycophantic and hopelessly wed to the DNC they have become.

He took everything in his speech back this morning. Pretty obvious the overnight polling wasn't very favorable. Clown world

"I don't consider any Trump supporters a threat to the country," Biden said. "I do think anyone who calls for the use of violence, refuses to acknowledge an election…changing the way you count votes, that is a threat to democracy."

Use of violence-- Like Dems did in the summer of 2020 and anytime during Trump's presidency

Acknowledge an election-- Lock up Abrams, Gore, Clinton, basically any Dem that's lost lately

Changing the way you count votes-- Like saying any votes that come in the mail after the election can be counted.. Well I know several states that violated that

Someone remembered this morning that he pissed off 95% of 2A supporters and they ain't worried about F-15s.. There's no one to pilot them, they're too busy learning about genders, pronouns, and what is to be a toxic white male.

(09-02-2022 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:18 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:38 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  No doubt. But, kind of hypocritical for the people who correctly rip into Biden's tone and content to utterly overlook their own similar tone and content -- albeit directed the otehr way.

And one can use that 'once upon a time the President was held to a slightly higher standard' directly with Trump's walking away with government papers --- but that 'slightly higher standard' in that seems to be absent in the comments regarding Trump's actions.

Needless to say -- yes, Presidents should be held to a higher standard. Absolutely. All of them. Regardless if you support them or not.

Maybe but the reality is one side is held to one standard while the other is not. It's not hard to tell which is which.

Do you think these boards hold to that standard regarding comments on the blues/ liberals/ progressives/ Democrats? A simple yes/no should suffice. That is the reality, mind you.

For example, just above: "Frick every damn one of them. If its in your power make one miserable today." Is that so hard to note?

It's borderline silly to compare posts on a message board by anonymous people who have little to no impact on ones well being to leaders of our country.

That wasnt a simple yes/ no. A simple observation on the tone and content should be simlpe, yet somehow it isnt.

Part of the issue is that tons and tons of conservatives have generally lived by the code of live and let live and have been largely quiet as the lefties have sky screamed………

What has it gotten us - some warped reality where women can pretend to be men, when they change the definition of vaccine, where recession doesn’t mean recession any more and on and on.

Personally, I’m fed up with the shenanigans and am choosing not to “just quietly shake my head”. If they lefties want to call me a name, so be it.

Frick’em - I’m done playing nice because they sure don’t.

(09-02-2022 12:08 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:18 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Maybe but the reality is one side is held to one standard while the other is not. It's not hard to tell which is which.

Do you think these boards hold to that standard regarding comments on the blues/ liberals/ progressives/ Democrats? A simple yes/no should suffice. That is the reality, mind you.

For example, just above: "Frick every damn one of them. If its in your power make one miserable today." Is that so hard to note?

It's borderline silly to compare posts on a message board by anonymous people who have little to no impact on ones well being to leaders of our country.

That wasnt a simple yes/ no. A simple observation on the tone and content should be simlpe, yet somehow it isnt.

Part of the issue is that tons and tons of conservatives have generally lived by the code of live and let live and have been largely quiet as the lefties have sky screamed………

What has it gotten us - some warped reality where women can pretend to be men, when they change the definition of vaccine, where recession doesn’t mean recession any more and on and on.

Personally, I’m fed up with the shenanigans and am choosing not to “just quietly shake my head”. If they lefties want to call me a name, so be it.

Frick’em - I’m done playing nice because they sure don’t.

Now youre catching on

(09-02-2022 12:08 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:18 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Maybe but the reality is one side is held to one standard while the other is not. It's not hard to tell which is which.

Do you think these boards hold to that standard regarding comments on the blues/ liberals/ progressives/ Democrats? A simple yes/no should suffice. That is the reality, mind you.

For example, just above: "Frick every damn one of them. If its in your power make one miserable today." Is that so hard to note?

It's borderline silly to compare posts on a message board by anonymous people who have little to no impact on ones well being to leaders of our country.

That wasnt a simple yes/ no. A simple observation on the tone and content should be simlpe, yet somehow it isnt.

Part of the issue is that tons and tons of conservatives have generally lived by the code of live and let live and have been largely quiet as the lefties have sky screamed………

What has it gotten us - some warped reality where women can pretend to be men, when they change the definition of vaccine, where recession doesn’t mean recession any more and on and on.

Personally, I’m fed up with the shenanigans and am choosing not to “just quietly shake my head”. If they lefties want to call me a name, so be it.

Frick’em - I’m done playing nice because they sure don’t.

That is perfectly fine. Your free choice and all that jazz. But, it looks seriously stupid to ***** about their supposed conduct all the while engaging in that same conduct.

(09-02-2022 11:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:26 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:24 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You do realize that you're bolstering Biden's point, right?

Biden's only point is that he hates half of America's citizens.

As opposed to the countless characterizations of 'liberal trash', 'Democrat cockroaches' that appear endlessly in these threads?

Your issue above seemingly has a serious lack of self-awareness in it of the general and very often verbalized comments in these boards themselves.

This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

I'm sorry, I was not aware I was the President of the United States.

Im sorry, I didnt say you were. You act as though the tone and tenor are solely the job of the President. Note again --

Quote:This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

But all I see is how justified you all are for taking the same tone and tenor. Got it.

Biden has done EVERYTHING I criticize him for.

I have done NOTHING he criticizes me for.

Get it?

(09-02-2022 12:20 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:26 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:24 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Biden's only point is that he hates half of America's citizens.

As opposed to the countless characterizations of 'liberal trash', 'Democrat cockroaches' that appear endlessly in these threads?

Your issue above seemingly has a serious lack of self-awareness in it of the general and very often verbalized comments in these boards themselves.

This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

I'm sorry, I was not aware I was the President of the United States.

Im sorry, I didnt say you were. You act as though the tone and tenor are solely the job of the President. Note again --

Quote:This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

But all I see is how justified you all are for taking the same tone and tenor. Got it.

Biden has done EVERYTHING I criticize him for.

I have done NOTHING he criticizes me for.

Get it?

Did you read the tweet above? Here it is and compare it to yout post above.

Quote:In the [] logic of Trumpworld, theirs is the grievance that matters. They are always the wronged party. [] But how dare Joe Biden say such nasty things about them?

(09-02-2022 11:42 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:30 AM)No Bull Wrote:  Imagine if you will… the reaction of the Progressive Socialist if Trump gave the same speech against the same Nazi backdrop and storm troopers.

Nancy Pelosi and the other progressive crypt keepers would be sky screaming. Such hypocrites.

And here you are sky screaming.

I am not sky screaming. I just wonder why the president is so hell bent on all alienating at least 45% of the voting population in this nation. Also baffled by the Nazi backdrop. Biden was always a blowhard career politician who profited from graft. But he was mostly a centrist until Obama. I am shocked and how tone deaf and divisive he is. I expected incompetence, but not of this magnitude. He is is poorly advised. Who thought a red and black background with marines in the background would be a good look. It is shocking and a bit scary.

(09-02-2022 12:20 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 12:08 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:35 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Do you think these boards hold to that standard regarding comments on the blues/ liberals/ progressives/ Democrats? A simple yes/no should suffice. That is the reality, mind you.

For example, just above: "Frick every damn one of them. If its in your power make one miserable today." Is that so hard to note?

It's borderline silly to compare posts on a message board by anonymous people who have little to no impact on ones well being to leaders of our country.

That wasnt a simple yes/ no. A simple observation on the tone and content should be simlpe, yet somehow it isnt.

Part of the issue is that tons and tons of conservatives have generally lived by the code of live and let live and have been largely quiet as the lefties have sky screamed………

What has it gotten us - some warped reality where women can pretend to be men, when they change the definition of vaccine, where recession doesn’t mean recession any more and on and on.

Personally, I’m fed up with the shenanigans and am choosing not to “just quietly shake my head”. If they lefties want to call me a name, so be it.

Frick’em - I’m done playing nice because they sure don’t.

That is perfectly fine. Your free choice and all that jazz. But, it looks seriously stupid to ***** about their supposed conduct all the while engaging in that same conduct.

Free choice and all that jazz? What?

(09-02-2022 12:27 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 12:20 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:26 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:29 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  As opposed to the countless characterizations of 'liberal trash', 'Democrat cockroaches' that appear endlessly in these threads?

Your issue above seemingly has a serious lack of self-awareness in it of the general and very often verbalized comments in these boards themselves.

This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

I'm sorry, I was not aware I was the President of the United States.

Im sorry, I didnt say you were. You act as though the tone and tenor are solely the job of the President. Note again --

Quote:This *isnt* a defense of the Biden's remarks. They were terrible. But, the comments in these boards hit those depths as well if you were not aware.

But all I see is how justified you all are for taking the same tone and tenor. Got it.

Biden has done EVERYTHING I criticize him for.

I have done NOTHING he criticizes me for.

Get it?

Did you read the tweet above? Here it is and compare it to yout post above.

Quote:In the [] logic of Trumpworld, theirs is the grievance that matters. They are always the wronged party. [] But how dare Joe Biden say such nasty things about them?

Are you kidding? That's your comeback?

I don't give a rip what Biden says about me. I DO care that Biden is destroying the country.

(09-02-2022 12:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  What it actually looked like vs what the MAGA talking heads are pushing :

Bullshiite. All we have done is grab photos from CNN, Time, and the AP from news articles. No one doctored the Nazi backdrop, you buffoon. What you shared here is absolute 100% propaganda.

BBC:



The Keystone:



Yea.. Damn conservatives in the media...