(06-23-2022 12:56 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  This is based on Twitter followers from Spring 2021.

The top-5 teams in each county are given here if you zoom in:
https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/m...ootballMap



Teams that are #1 in every county in their state: Arkansas, Delaware, Maine, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Nebraska, Wyoming, Hawai'i.

P5 schools that are not #1 in any county: Georgia Tech, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, Southern Cal

The majority of FCS schools are #1 in their own county. This map makes an argument that MVC/Big Sky/CAA/WAC are just as popular as MAC/Sun Belt/C-USA.


#1 and #2 schools in New York and Chicago: Michigan and Notre Dame. Michigan is also #2 in DC and #3 in San Francisco.

That is a load of baloney about the FCS schools, IMO, and I looked at the map a lot, and several times too, I might add. The thing about those counties in FCS states aren't very populous, although I could make an exception for NDSU, and even they want out of FCS!!! You have to add up all of the fans around the surrounding counties for MAC/SunBelt/C-USA and then add up all of the fans in MVC/Big Sky/CAA/WAC in the surrounding counties as well. Yes, P5 teams do get a huge chunk of those fans in the SunBelt/MAC/C-USA areas, but what is leftover isn't exactly chopped liver either. Sheesh, I was actually pleasantly surprised how Jax State and UNA did (granted, they're FCS, but Jax State is going to be C-USA soon, and UNA has designs on FBS. I can see why now. Thank you UNA fans!!!) Even Robert Morris and Kennesaw State registered on this map, which to me was a shock!!! I just wish that I could make that map bigger so I could see it better!!!

I need to contact the guy who made the map and ask him if he could do one for college basketball. That would be very interesting, IMO.

If you open the link in the original post you can zoom in on the map.

Zooming into to the Southeast, I can understand Campbell, WCU, W&M, VMI, and Ga Southern having the most in their more rural counties, but Richmond surprises me.

As far as I can tell, THE ™ Ohio State has no counties outside of Ohio. I would have expected them to at least show some strength in places like South Carolina, but I don't see any counties where they even show up in the top 5 (aside from a couple of counties that border Ohio).

VT carries most of Northern Virginia.

As for Washington DC proper, of the population is 700K or so, the ranking is:

1. UMCP: 7.4%
2. Mich: 6.9%
3. Alabama: 5.1%
4. VT: 4.8%
5. PSU: 4.6%

It’s interesting that none of the actual DC schools such as G’town or GWU made the top five.

(06-22-2022 02:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  This is based on Twitter followers from Spring 2021.

The top-5 teams in each county are given here if you zoom in:
https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/m...ootballMap



Teams that are #1 in every county in their state: Arkansas, Delaware, Maine, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Nebraska, Wyoming, Hawai'i.

These are all state flagships with very little in-state competition. Looking at state population sizes and level of football of the institutions, it's pretty impressive that Wyoming manages to compete at the FBS level and also pretty clear that Connecticut has the population to support an FBS and P5 level program.

Arkansas P5 3.012M pop., Delaware FCS 967k pop., Maine FCS 1.341M, Wisconsin P5 5.807M, Connecticut FBS 3.571M, Nebraska P5 1.924M, Wyoming FBS 581k, Hawai'i FBS 1.42M

(06-23-2022 12:49 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  As far as I can tell, THE ™ Ohio State has no counties outside of Ohio. I would have expected them to at least show some strength in places like South Carolina, but I don't see any counties where they even show up in the top 5 (aside from a couple of counties that border Ohio).

Just looking at Arizona, TOSU is #2 in La Paz County (small population, lots of retirees) and #5 in Coconino (only county that NAU wins).

(06-23-2022 01:07 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 12:49 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  As far as I can tell, THE ™ Ohio State has no counties outside of Ohio. I would have expected them to at least show some strength in places like South Carolina, but I don't see any counties where they even show up in the top 5 (aside from a couple of counties that border Ohio).

Just looking at Arizona, TOSU is #2 in La Paz County (small population, lots of retirees) and #5 in Coconino (only county that NAU wins).

Ah thanks, I forgot that Ohioans had infested AZ, too

(06-23-2022 01:13 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 01:07 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 12:49 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  As far as I can tell, THE ™ Ohio State has no counties outside of Ohio. I would have expected them to at least show some strength in places like South Carolina, but I don't see any counties where they even show up in the top 5 (aside from a couple of counties that border Ohio).

Just looking at Arizona, TOSU is #2 in La Paz County (small population, lots of retirees) and #5 in Coconino (only county that NAU wins).

Ah thanks, I forgot that Ohioans had infested AZ, too

Yup.

Arizona has 15 counties, some low population (only need 3-4 followers to make top 5)

Number of County top 5's

ASU 15
Arizona 15
NAU 12
Alabama 7
Oregon 6
Michigan 4
Notre Dame 3
Clemson 3
Ohio State 2
Oklahoma 1
New Mexico 1
BYU 1
Arkansas 1
Georgia 1
Florida 1
ULL 1
NDSU 1

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:45 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:41 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  This is based on Twitter followers from Spring 2021.

The top-5 teams in each county are given here if you zoom in:
https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/m...ootballMap



Teams that are #1 in every county in their state: Arkansas, Delaware, Maine, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Nebraska, Wyoming, Hawai'i.

P5 schools that are not #1 in any county: Georgia Tech, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, Southern Cal

The majority of FCS schools are #1 in their own county. This map makes an argument that MVC/Big Sky/CAA/WAC are just as popular as MAC/Sun Belt/C-USA.

#1 and #2 schools in New York and Chicago: Michigan and Notre Dame. Michigan is also #2 in DC and #3 in San Francisco.

That's not what the map is inferring. That's you trying to project your personal thought onto something unrelated.

It's a cool map though.

What do you mean? This map is obviously saying that NDSU, SDSU, Maine, Delaware, Idaho, and Montana are many many many times more popular than a small insignificant team like Cincinnati.

You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:45 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:41 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  That's not what the map is inferring. That's you trying to project your personal thought onto something unrelated.

It's a cool map though.

What do you mean? This map is obviously saying that NDSU, SDSU, Maine, Delaware, Idaho, and Montana are many many many times more popular than a small insignificant team like Cincinnati.

You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

Or do a heat map that adjusts for total twitter follows per county.

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:45 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:41 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  That's not what the map is inferring. That's you trying to project your personal thought onto something unrelated.

It's a cool map though.

What do you mean? This map is obviously saying that NDSU, SDSU, Maine, Delaware, Idaho, and Montana are many many many times more popular than a small insignificant team like Cincinnati.

You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

(06-23-2022 12:50 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  VT carries most of Northern Virginia.

As for Washington DC proper, of the population is 700K or so, the ranking is:

1. UMCP: 7.4%
2. Mich: 6.9%
3. Alabama: 5.1%
4. VT: 4.8%
5. PSU: 4.6%

It’s interesting that none of the actual DC schools such as G’town or GWU made the top five.

I'd say Navy probably carries a significant percentage of DC.

(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:45 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  What do you mean? This map is obviously saying that NDSU, SDSU, Maine, Delaware, Idaho, and Montana are many many many times more popular than a small insignificant team like Cincinnati.

You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

I sure wish they would do this for college basketball!!!!!! To me, college football gives an incomplete picture. I want the whole enchilada!!!

(06-23-2022 05:52 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 02:15 AM)dawgonit Wrote:  Interesting. Only LSU and Tech in Louisiana.

Look at some of the #2 & #3 choices in Louisiana parishes. The UL Cajuns do pop up there around South central Louisiana. Only Tech & LSU led in any parish though.

Oh I saw. The UL Demons in Natchitoches actually did best among the schools that didn't win their parish at 41.7%. In fact, it seems that all other UL teams came second in their parish except the UL Privateers in New Orleans. They don't have football though so that's not surprising.

(06-24-2022 01:18 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

I sure wish they would do this for college basketball!!!!!! To me, college football gives an incomplete picture. I want the whole enchilada!!!

https://skullsparks.com/analytics/

(06-24-2022 03:54 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 01:18 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

I sure wish they would do this for college basketball!!!!!! To me, college football gives an incomplete picture. I want the whole enchilada!!!

https://skullsparks.com/analytics/

Thank you nodak651!!!!! I even looked at the college baseball one too. The reason why I wanted to look at college basketball and college baseball in addition to college football is that some programs put a lot more $$'s into their men's basketball team or their baseball team than they do their football team, so when I look at the college football numbers, I don't really feel like I'm looking at the whole picture. The basketball and baseball numbers allow me to see the picture in its entirety.

(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:45 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  What do you mean? This map is obviously saying that NDSU, SDSU, Maine, Delaware, Idaho, and Montana are many many many times more popular than a small insignificant team like Cincinnati.

You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

Top G5:

43 Boise State
59 USF
62 Appy State
63 Navy
65 Wyoming
68 Army
71 Temple
72 WMU
76 Fresno State
77 Colorado State

Bottom P5:

73 Northwestern
74 Boston College
75 Cal
85 Vanderbilt
86 Wake Forest

Navy and Appy State replace BC and Wake Forest in ACC
Boise State replaces Cal in Pac 12
USF replaces Vanderbilt in SEC (or UCF to SEC and USF to B12)
Wyoming moves to B12, Iowa State to B1G replacing Northwestern

(06-24-2022 10:12 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 02:58 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  You're right, silly me. According to OP's logic, Maine, SDSU, and Montana are more popular than Louisville, Auburn, and Ole Miss because of this map. What a revelation! Someone call ESPN.

It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

Top G5:

43 Boise State
59 USF
62 Appy State
63 Navy
65 Wyoming
68 Army
71 Temple
72 WMU
76 Fresno State
77 Colorado State

Bottom P5:

73 Northwestern
74 Boston College
75 Cal
85 Vanderbilt
86 Wake Forest

Navy and Appy State replace BC and Wake Forest in ACC
Boise State replaces Cal in Pac 12
USF replaces Vanderbilt in SEC (or UCF to SEC and USF to B12)
Wyoming moves to B12, Iowa State to B1G replacing Northwestern

I've been working on a project combining the fans for college football, college basketball, and college baseball on social media. I looked at one that supposedly combined it, but I could tell by looking at it that it was wrong. My project has been very eye-opening to me, and I'm only halfway done!!! (have to take a break. My eyes are hurting from looking and copying all of that data!! I tried to do cut and paste, but it wouldn't let me).

(06-24-2022 11:23 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:12 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 03:43 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  It's on the internets so it's true.

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

Top G5:

43 Boise State
59 USF
62 Appy State
63 Navy
65 Wyoming
68 Army
71 Temple
72 WMU
76 Fresno State
77 Colorado State

Bottom P5:

73 Northwestern
74 Boston College
75 Cal
85 Vanderbilt
86 Wake Forest

Navy and Appy State replace BC and Wake Forest in ACC
Boise State replaces Cal in Pac 12
USF replaces Vanderbilt in SEC (or UCF to SEC and USF to B12)
Wyoming moves to B12, Iowa State to B1G replacing Northwestern

I've been working on a project combining the fans for college football, college basketball, and college baseball on social media. I looked at one that supposedly combined it, but I could tell by looking at it that it was wrong. My project has been very eye-opening to me, and I'm only halfway done!!! (have to take a break. My eyes are hurting from looking and copying all of that data!! I tried to do cut and paste, but it wouldn't let me).

You should consider adding hockey to offset southern baseball bias. Especially if you want to see whole picture.. might be surprised there as well. For example, looking at twitter, this is a list of schools that have more hockey twitter followers than basketball twitter followers: Penn State, Boston College, Minnesota, UMass, Bowling Green, Western Michigan, Miami, and probably all of the other non FBS D1 schools. North Dakota hockey has more twitter followers than many P5 football programs..

DawgNBama, for your project, are you combining total followers of the programs or is it more elaborate than that? Guessing there isn't a way to avoid duplicating fans who follow two or more programs at the same school? I suppose if fans are double or triple counted because they follow multiple sports, it would give more weight to schools that have a more passionate fan base as whole, which isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

(06-27-2022 05:04 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 11:23 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 10:12 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 12:19 AM)nodak651 Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 03:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

NOTE: Being the most popular team in a sparsely populated county doesn't mean you lots of fans, just the most in that county. You can't trade in counties for votes - this isn't the Electoral College!

Much more valuable (IMO) would be to simply total the number of fans for each school for the entire country, instead of county by county.

You're welcome __> https://twitter.com/SkullSparks/status/1...Mk1bw&s=19

Top G5:

43 Boise State
59 USF
62 Appy State
63 Navy
65 Wyoming
68 Army
71 Temple
72 WMU
76 Fresno State
77 Colorado State

Bottom P5:

73 Northwestern
74 Boston College
75 Cal
85 Vanderbilt
86 Wake Forest

Navy and Appy State replace BC and Wake Forest in ACC
Boise State replaces Cal in Pac 12
USF replaces Vanderbilt in SEC (or UCF to SEC and USF to B12)
Wyoming moves to B12, Iowa State to B1G replacing Northwestern

I've been working on a project combining the fans for college football, college basketball, and college baseball on social media. I looked at one that supposedly combined it, but I could tell by looking at it that it was wrong. My project has been very eye-opening to me, and I'm only halfway done!!! (have to take a break. My eyes are hurting from looking and copying all of that data!! I tried to do cut and paste, but it wouldn't let me).

You should consider adding hockey to offset southern baseball bias. Especially if you want to see whole picture.. might be surprised there as well. For example, looking at twitter, this is a list of schools that have more hockey twitter followers than basketball twitter followers: Penn State, Boston College, Minnesota, UMass, Bowling Green, Western Michigan, Miami, and probably all of the other non FBS D1 schools. North Dakota hockey has more twitter followers than many P5 football programs..

DawgNBama, for your project, are you combining total followers of the programs or is it more elaborate than that? Guessing there isn't a way to avoid duplicating fans who follow two or more programs at the same school? I suppose if fans are double or triple counted because they follow multiple sports, it would give more weight to schools that have a more passionate fan base as whole, which isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

Yes, my plan is to combine total followers of programs, but I ran into a rather interesting problem. While SkullSparks Analytics does not have a database of college hockey followers, they do have a database of college hockey interactions. They also do the same for lacrosse.

In addition, in a my project, I have focused on male sports teams, but there is data on some female sports teams too, and I may go back and add that also later.

Nodak, I will include college hockey interactions on a separate table with my overall follower data. I really don't know how to combine it my main project since my project is looking at audience size and not how many interactions they have had, so that's why I'm putting it as a separate table. I could change my mind though, and actually look up the top 50 college hockey program followers the old fashioned way, but that would only be for Twitter.