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(05-13-2022 08:57 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 08:51 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  what needs to be pointed out is in the rendering we see a fully renovated stadium, but if you listen to the words they say, they are planning on ONLY renovating the west side and IF they have the funding, they will then renovate the east side tower

There are multiple "ifs" in the announcement. Most important among them being the unknown source(s) of funds & management.

And if we'll wake up tomorrow and if the sun will shine tomorrow and if it rain next week.
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(04-29-2022 09:45 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 09:33 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 03:17 PM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 01:39 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 01:29 PM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  has the university stated that theyre building an on campus stadium? im just curious where youre getting that data

I have no direct knowledge other than what has been discussed on the forum.

I have heard we will build a new stadium and I have heard we will upgrade the Liberty Bowl.

I assume ON MY OWN that if we renovate the Liberty Bowl it means we have not gotten an invite to the Big XII. I believe if that invitation was in hand we would be building an OCS. I also believe it is possible we don't know about the Big XII yet, and that could be part of the reason no announcement has been made to date. ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION BASED ON ZERO INSIDE INFORMATION.

and thats fine, but why lol. i dont understand why everyone believes you must have a big fancy on campus stadium to get invited. The moment you accept a big12 invite, you get money for a stadium. why does stadium have to come before the invite? and this isnt to you directly. it's to anyone who thinks its on campus stadium or bust

Name a school who HAS gotten an invite to a P5 conference that DOESN'T have an OCS.

baylor didnt. miami still doesnt. ucla technically. washington? pitt still play at heinz field? Nc state? south carolina, northwestern, oregon..

All of those schools you just listed WERE ALREADY POWER SCHOOLS when they "joined" their conferences, or were founding members of their conferences. For Example, Baylor:
Quote:The Big 12 Conference was founded in February 1994. The eight members of the former Big Eight Conference joined with the Southwest Conference universities University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M University, Baylor University and Texas Tech University to form the conference, with play beginning in 1996.[3] The conference's current ten campus makeup resulted from the 2010–2013 Big 12 Conference realignment, in which Nebraska joined the Big Ten Conference, Colorado joined the Pac-12, and Texas A&M and Missouri joined the Southeastern Conference. Texas Christian University and West Virginia University joined from the Mountain West and Big East Conferences respectively to offset two of the departing universities, bringing the conference to its current strength.

Now. I will ask once again, with a little more clarity as to the point of this discussion... Name a school FROM THE G5 (or Non BCS member) - basically since 1998, that has been invited to a power league that does not have an on-campus stadium.
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(05-13-2022 07:36 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Yesterday's tweet by the Boise State AD. Note the responses. Any relationship?


According to some on the Boise State football board that tweet is response to Boise State fans talking about Memphis. Of course it could be just stating the obvious. Stadium upgrades at each of the candidate schools relates to the hope of a P5 invite.
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(05-13-2022 11:25 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
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(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.

About the same as UCF & Cincinnati, 7-8% less than Houston. The updated campus plan calls for 2500 new beds, nearly doubling what is currently available. That should bring us in line with the University of Bammer (percentage wise).*

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& many live within a 2 mile radius of the school…

I'd venture a guess that 20-25% of in-person students (not UofM Global) live within that radius of the school right now.
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(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.
The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.
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(05-13-2022 08:48 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  I've always said if Memphis could handcuff itself to one school, Cincinnati would be the one to do so. Now that they have moved on, Boise State is probably the next best option.

Thirty years ago Lapides suggested that Louisville and Memphis should offer the SEC $50 Million each to join the SEC. $50 Million might not have cut it, but $100 Million might have.
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(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.
The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.
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(05-13-2022 04:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.
The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.

We NEED a rail-car. And a separate track right next to the real track. It could be one of the most unique traditions in College Football. "Students, get to Normal station within the next 10 minutes, or you miss kick-off!"
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(05-13-2022 03:57 PM)3601 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 08:48 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  I've always said if Memphis could handcuff itself to one school, Cincinnati would be the one to do so. Now that they have moved on, Boise State is probably the next best option.

Thirty years ago Lapides suggested that Louisville and Memphis should offer the SEC $50 Million each to join the SEC. $50 Million might not have cut it, but $100 Million might have.

If anyone was wondering, $50mil is +/- $346mil today
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(05-13-2022 04:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.
The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.

Yep. Screw the students. They’ll walk and they’ll like it!
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(05-13-2022 04:27 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.
The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.

We NEED a rail-car. And a separate track right next to the real track. It could be one of the most unique traditions in College Football. "Students, get to Normal station within the next 10 minutes, or you miss kick-off!"

Monorail through the neighborhood. Would also provide shelter for the homeless.
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RE: Liberty Bowl Stadium
(05-13-2022 12:05 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 09:45 AM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  
(04-29-2022 09:33 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 03:17 PM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  
(04-27-2022 01:39 PM)Claw Wrote:  I have no direct knowledge other than what has been discussed on the forum.

I have heard we will build a new stadium and I have heard we will upgrade the Liberty Bowl.

I assume ON MY OWN that if we renovate the Liberty Bowl it means we have not gotten an invite to the Big XII. I believe if that invitation was in hand we would be building an OCS. I also believe it is possible we don't know about the Big XII yet, and that could be part of the reason no announcement has been made to date. ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATION BASED ON ZERO INSIDE INFORMATION.

and thats fine, but why lol. i dont understand why everyone believes you must have a big fancy on campus stadium to get invited. The moment you accept a big12 invite, you get money for a stadium. why does stadium have to come before the invite? and this isnt to you directly. it's to anyone who thinks its on campus stadium or bust

Name a school who HAS gotten an invite to a P5 conference that DOESN'T have an OCS.

baylor didnt. miami still doesnt. ucla technically. washington? pitt still play at heinz field? Nc state? south carolina, northwestern, oregon..

All of those schools you just listed WERE ALREADY POWER SCHOOLS when they "joined" their conferences, or were founding members of their conferences. For Example, Baylor:
Quote:The Big 12 Conference was founded in February 1994. The eight members of the former Big Eight Conference joined with the Southwest Conference universities University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M University, Baylor University and Texas Tech University to form the conference, with play beginning in 1996.[3] The conference's current ten campus makeup resulted from the 2010–2013 Big 12 Conference realignment, in which Nebraska joined the Big Ten Conference, Colorado joined the Pac-12, and Texas A&M and Missouri joined the Southeastern Conference. Texas Christian University and West Virginia University joined from the Mountain West and Big East Conferences respectively to offset two of the departing universities, bringing the conference to its current strength.

Now. I will ask once again, with a little more clarity as to the point of this discussion... Name a school FROM THE G5 (or Non BCS member) - basically since 1998, that has been invited to a power league that does not have an on-campus stadium.

The answer is zero.

However, the number of schools in that category as you have defined it is small - only 2 prior to last year (Utah and TCU) plus the 4 recent invites to the B12. Those 6 schools have other things in common besides an OCS that distinguish them from Memphis. For example, they are all located in TV markets that rank #36 or higher whereas Memphis ranks #51.

By saying "non-BCS" you are excluding former Big East teams which were raided by other conferences. It should be noted that when the Big East was poached in 2014-15, the ACC picked up two BE schools (Miami and Pittsburgh) who played off campus while passing on Cincinnati which played in an OCS. This indicates there were important reasons, other than OCS, driving conference realignment. And there is really no reason for OCS to be such a driver since there are currently 9 P5 teams playing off campus and doing so successfully.
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(05-13-2022 05:10 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:27 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.
The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.

We NEED a rail-car. And a separate track right next to the real track. It could be one of the most unique traditions in College Football. "Students, get to Normal station within the next 10 minutes, or you miss kick-off!"

Monorail through the neighborhood. Would also provide shelter for the homeless.

And some nice hunting grounds for the criminals in Memphis to continue robbing, stealing and whatever else they do
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(05-13-2022 05:32 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 05:10 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:27 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.

We NEED a rail-car. And a separate track right next to the real track. It could be one of the most unique traditions in College Football. "Students, get to Normal station within the next 10 minutes, or you miss kick-off!"

Monorail through the neighborhood. Would also provide shelter for the homeless.

And some nice hunting grounds for the criminals in Memphis to continue robbing, stealing and whatever else they do

This comment is way out of line.
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(05-13-2022 04:46 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 09:24 AM)blue68 Wrote:  85% of students live off campus.
The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.

Yep. Screw the students. They’ll walk and they’ll like it!

walking to the Park Ave campus is just as much of a hike (and that's where our 'on campus' stadium would be)
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(05-13-2022 05:32 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 05:10 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:27 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 04:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2022 03:51 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  The majority who don’t live on campus, live within walking distance of campus.

if their legs are able to get them to campus… then their legs can get them to the liberty bowl.

We NEED a rail-car. And a separate track right next to the real track. It could be one of the most unique traditions in College Football. "Students, get to Normal station within the next 10 minutes, or you miss kick-off!"

Monorail through the neighborhood. Would also provide shelter for the homeless.

And some nice hunting grounds for the criminals in Memphis to continue robbing, stealing and whatever else they do

Central Ave from Highland to past Chickasaw Gardens is VERY nice...I wouldn't be worried about crime.

easiest place for a monorail tho would be Southern and I could see crime being a minor concern there.
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If it stopped. Why would it make stops?
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(05-13-2022 07:35 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  If it stopped. Why would it make stops?

^ you make a fine point there...
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Instead of a monorail have a parade
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