(05-10-2022 06:15 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 12:54 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 10:54 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  They add one, GA St.

They added six this round for cushion. If two leave they add no one.

Will ESPN let them keep their contract the same if 2 leave and they don't add anyone?

ESPN may let them have a reduced contract, taking off 2 schools worth of payments off if 2 leave and that would be fine also.

I think ESPN at least makes them expand back to 14 if not 16.

That’d be awfully generous of ESPN

No it wouldn't, because ESPN would be maintaining membership at 14 (or 16) in their own self-interest.

The AAC never expressed any interest in having more than 12 teams.

The idea to expand to 14 was ESPN's idea - - not the AAC's.

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(05-10-2022 03:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 09:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 07:41 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 06:28 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  I abstained. I think we can all agree that they would take the best available team

That would be willing to join...

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That’s definitely a prerequisite

Reduces that number drastically...

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As I've noted, the number of Sun Belt teams willing to join the AAC will be dictated by two things: 1. if the AAC loses only one university (thus making the league still rather attractive to Belt schools); and 2. what school the AAC would target if the "top choice SBC school" declines to pursue. In another words, and for "thing No. 2," let's say your Georgia State program is the main target of an AAC that will lose, in this hypothetical, USF. If GSU officials feel that declining would then mean the AAC would target a SBC school GSU would not particularly miss having as a league brother (and that school would jump to the AAC)... GSU's standing pat could happen. In contrast, if "choice No. 2" is a top-tier SBC school and it comes down to "us or them," GSU might pursue AAC membership.

I am waiting to see the new Presidents visiom. We stood pat the last time. If the AAC loses MORE of the schools our Adminstration considers a Academic Peers, I cant see us taking that carrot. It's already a league without Houston, Cincy and UCF. Lose USF and one or two others and all of a sudden the AAC is looking a lot like the SBC.

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(05-10-2022 09:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 09:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 07:41 PM)panama Wrote:  That would be willing to join...

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That’s definitely a prerequisite

Reduces that number drastically...

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As I've noted, the number of Sun Belt teams willing to join the AAC will be dictated by two things: 1. if the AAC loses only one university (thus making the league still rather attractive to Belt schools); and 2. what school the AAC would target if the "top choice SBC school" declines to pursue. In another words, and for "thing No. 2," let's say your Georgia State program is the main target of an AAC that will lose, in this hypothetical, USF. If GSU officials feel that declining would then mean the AAC would target a SBC school GSU would not particularly miss having as a league brother (and that school would jump to the AAC)... GSU's standing pat could happen. In contrast, if "choice No. 2" is a top-tier SBC school and it comes down to "us or them," GSU might pursue AAC membership.

I am waiting to see the new Presidents visiom. We stood pat the last time. If the AAC loses MORE of the schools our Adminstration considers a Academic Peers, I cant see us taking that carrot. It's already a league without Houston, Cincy and UCF. Lose USF and one or two others and all of a sudden the AAC is looking a lot like the SBC.

With strong programs such as App. State, Louisiana, Coastal, and Marshall, it's hard to argue with the proposition that, judging from past performance, SBC FB may be as strong as or stronger than AAC FB in 2023-24 and beyond.

On the other hand, no one has suggested that the SBC will be as strong as the AAC in men's basketball. Some/many football fans might prefer the SBC, but basketball fans will, no doubt, prefer the AAC.

Overall, most AAC fans may prefer their situation, if they're comparable to the SBC in football, but considerably stronger in men's basketball.

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(05-10-2022 11:33 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 09:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 09:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  That’s definitely a prerequisite

Reduces that number drastically...

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As I've noted, the number of Sun Belt teams willing to join the AAC will be dictated by two things: 1. if the AAC loses only one university (thus making the league still rather attractive to Belt schools); and 2. what school the AAC would target if the "top choice SBC school" declines to pursue. In another words, and for "thing No. 2," let's say your Georgia State program is the main target of an AAC that will lose, in this hypothetical, USF. If GSU officials feel that declining would then mean the AAC would target a SBC school GSU would not particularly miss having as a league brother (and that school would jump to the AAC)... GSU's standing pat could happen. In contrast, if "choice No. 2" is a top-tier SBC school and it comes down to "us or them," GSU might pursue AAC membership.

I am waiting to see the new Presidents visiom. We stood pat the last time. If the AAC loses MORE of the schools our Adminstration considers a Academic Peers, I cant see us taking that carrot. It's already a league without Houston, Cincy and UCF. Lose USF and one or two others and all of a sudden the AAC is looking a lot like the SBC.

With strong programs such as App. State, Louisiana, Coastal, and Marshall, it's hard to argue with the proposition that, judging from past performance, SBC FB may be as strong as or stronger than AAC FB in 2023-24 and beyond.

On the other hand, no one has suggested that the SBC will be as strong as the AAC in men's basketball. Some/many football fans might prefer the SBC, but basketball fans will, no doubt, prefer the AAC.

Overall, most AAC fans may prefer their situation, if they're comparable to the SBC in football, but considerably stronger in men's basketball.

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Has nothing to do with academic peerage

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(05-10-2022 09:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 09:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 07:41 PM)panama Wrote:  That would be willing to join...

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That’s definitely a prerequisite

Reduces that number drastically...

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As I've noted, the number of Sun Belt teams willing to join the AAC will be dictated by two things: 1. if the AAC loses only one university (thus making the league still rather attractive to Belt schools); and 2. what school the AAC would target if the "top choice SBC school" declines to pursue. In another words, and for "thing No. 2," let's say your Georgia State program is the main target of an AAC that will lose, in this hypothetical, USF. If GSU officials feel that declining would then mean the AAC would target a SBC school GSU would not particularly miss having as a league brother (and that school would jump to the AAC)... GSU's standing pat could happen. In contrast, if "choice No. 2" is a top-tier SBC school and it comes down to "us or them," GSU might pursue AAC membership.

I am waiting to see the new Presidents visiom. We stood pat the last time. If the AAC loses MORE of the schools our Adminstration considers a Academic Peers, I cant see us taking that carrot. It's already a league without Houston, Cincy and UCF. Lose USF and one or two others and all of a sudden the AAC is looking a lot like the SBC.

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Good points. I doubt GSU or any other Sun Belt university would strongly want to move to an AAC that, hypothetically, has lost two of three (SMU, USF, Memphis). And if all three were to leave ... almost no way a SBC school switches to the AAC.

In the end, it likely could be a moot point, as it seems the chances of the Big 12 expanding are no more than 50-50.

As a Memphis fan, I would be please to have Georgia State in the AAC. The "fit" seems right.

With Boise becoming Big12’s 16th member, MW and AAC merge and get tv contract to feed all mouths.

Georgia State becomes full AAC member and Seattle and Denver become non-football members.

3, 7-team divisions for football with Army Navy and AirForce as football independents playing 6 games vs AAC divisional teams per year and all 3 academies part of Mega-AAC tv contract. As well as part of 4-team AAC football championship tournament…3 division winners + highest ranked at large (which can be one of the 3 academies).

Army/Navy are football only, but AFA full member making 12 AAC west division members for all other sports (also why Seattle and Denver…to make 12 western teams).

With Georgia State and Wichita completing the 12 team AAC east division.

(05-11-2022 08:09 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  With Boise becoming Big12’s 16th member, MW and AAC merge and get tv contract to feed all mouths.

Georgia State becomes full AAC member and Seattle and Denver become non-football members.

3, 7-team divisions for football with Army Navy and AirForce as football independents playing 6 games vs AAC divisional teams per year and all 3 academies part of Mega-AAC tv contract. As well as part of 4-team AAC football championship tournament…3 division winners + highest ranked at large (which can be one of the 3 academies).

Army/Navy are football only, but AFA full member making 12 AAC west division members for all other sports (also why Seattle and Denver…to make 12 western teams).

With Georgia State and Wichita completing the 12 team AAC east division.

That seems better to you than the current situation?

Or is this like a doomsday prediction?

If the Big 12 does expand after Texas and Oklahoma leave, they may decide to go to 16 to insulate themselves of a PAC 12 expansion. They should go after
Memphis, Boise State and two of the following: SMU, Colorado State or South Florida. Leaving San Diego State, and either Fresno State, Nevada or UNLV for the other spot.

(05-11-2022 08:26 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:09 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  With Boise becoming Big12’s 16th member, MW and AAC merge and get tv contract to feed all mouths.

Georgia State becomes full AAC member and Seattle and Denver become non-football members.

3, 7-team divisions for football with Army Navy and AirForce as football independents playing 6 games vs AAC divisional teams per year and all 3 academies part of Mega-AAC tv contract. As well as part of 4-team AAC football championship tournament…3 division winners + highest ranked at large (which can be one of the 3 academies).

Army/Navy are football only, but AFA full member making 12 AAC west division members for all other sports (also why Seattle and Denver…to make 12 western teams).

With Georgia State and Wichita completing the 12 team AAC east division.

That seems better to you than the current situation?

Or is this like a doomsday prediction?

Yeah. With Boise leaving - in this hypothetical topic proposal by the OP - of course. All 3 military academies and the best of the rest of the MW and AAC after Memphis, SMU, USF and Boise leave for Big12-16. Hell yeah! If the tv money is there to compensate - plus a little extra, maybe - for all the mouths to feed.

(05-10-2022 09:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 09:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 07:41 PM)panama Wrote:  That would be willing to join...

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That’s definitely a prerequisite

Reduces that number drastically...

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As I've noted, the number of Sun Belt teams willing to join the AAC will be dictated by two things: 1. if the AAC loses only one university (thus making the league still rather attractive to Belt schools); and 2. what school the AAC would target if the "top choice SBC school" declines to pursue. In another words, and for "thing No. 2," let's say your Georgia State program is the main target of an AAC that will lose, in this hypothetical, USF. If GSU officials feel that declining would then mean the AAC would target a SBC school GSU would not particularly miss having as a league brother (and that school would jump to the AAC)... GSU's standing pat could happen. In contrast, if "choice No. 2" is a top-tier SBC school and it comes down to "us or them," GSU might pursue AAC membership.

I am waiting to see the new Presidents visiom. We stood pat the last time. If the AAC loses MORE of the schools our Adminstration considers a Academic Peers, I cant see us taking that carrot. It's already a league without Houston, Cincy and UCF. Lose USF and one or two others and all of a sudden the AAC is looking a lot like the SBC.

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On the Academic side the AAC should still be pretty strong, even if they lose USF, SMU, and Memphis. Not sure which group you would consider academic peers, but I know which group excites a President more (and it probably isn't the group that excites an AD).

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ran...iversities

Georgia State #239

AAC

Rice #17, Tulane #42, Temple #103, Tulsa #136, UAB #148, ECU #213, Charlotte #227, FAU #277, UNT #277.

Navy - No National Ranking.

UTSA, Wichita State #299-391.

SBC

ODU #263, Marshall #288,

UL, ULM, Georgia Southern, Texas State, Arkansas State, South Alabama, USM #299-391

Troy, Coastal, JMU, App State - No National Ranking.

(05-11-2022 08:26 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:09 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  With Boise becoming Big12’s 16th member, MW and AAC merge and get tv contract to feed all mouths.

Georgia State becomes full AAC member and Seattle and Denver become non-football members.

3, 7-team divisions for football with Army Navy and AirForce as football independents playing 6 games vs AAC divisional teams per year and all 3 academies part of Mega-AAC tv contract. As well as part of 4-team AAC football championship tournament…3 division winners + highest ranked at large (which can be one of the 3 academies).

Army/Navy are football only, but AFA full member making 12 AAC west division members for all other sports (also why Seattle and Denver…to make 12 western teams).

With Georgia State and Wichita completing the 12 team AAC east division.

That seems better to you than the current situation?

Or is this like a doomsday prediction?

Exactly!!!

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(05-11-2022 11:28 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 09:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-09-2022 09:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  That’s definitely a prerequisite

Reduces that number drastically...

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As I've noted, the number of Sun Belt teams willing to join the AAC will be dictated by two things: 1. if the AAC loses only one university (thus making the league still rather attractive to Belt schools); and 2. what school the AAC would target if the "top choice SBC school" declines to pursue. In another words, and for "thing No. 2," let's say your Georgia State program is the main target of an AAC that will lose, in this hypothetical, USF. If GSU officials feel that declining would then mean the AAC would target a SBC school GSU would not particularly miss having as a league brother (and that school would jump to the AAC)... GSU's standing pat could happen. In contrast, if "choice No. 2" is a top-tier SBC school and it comes down to "us or them," GSU might pursue AAC membership.

I am waiting to see the new Presidents visiom. We stood pat the last time. If the AAC loses MORE of the schools our Adminstration considers a Academic Peers, I cant see us taking that carrot. It's already a league without Houston, Cincy and UCF. Lose USF and one or two others and all of a sudden the AAC is looking a lot like the SBC.

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On the Academic side the AAC should still be pretty strong, even if they lose USF, SMU, and Memphis. Not sure which group you would consider academic peers, but I know which group excites a President more (and it probably isn't the group that excites an AD).

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ran...iversities

Georgia State #239

AAC

Rice #17, Tulane #42, Temple #103, Tulsa #136, UAB #148, ECU #213, Charlotte #227, FAU #277, UNT #277.

Navy - No National Ranking.

UTSA, Wichita State #299-391.

SBC

ODU #263, Marshall #288,

UL, ULM, Georgia Southern, Texas State, Arkansas State, South Alabama, USM #299-391

Troy, Coastal, JMU, App State - No National Ranking.

It's pronounced B12. Lol

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(05-11-2022 11:28 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 09:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:47 PM)panama Wrote:  Reduces that number drastically...

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As I've noted, the number of Sun Belt teams willing to join the AAC will be dictated by two things: 1. if the AAC loses only one university (thus making the league still rather attractive to Belt schools); and 2. what school the AAC would target if the "top choice SBC school" declines to pursue. In another words, and for "thing No. 2," let's say your Georgia State program is the main target of an AAC that will lose, in this hypothetical, USF. If GSU officials feel that declining would then mean the AAC would target a SBC school GSU would not particularly miss having as a league brother (and that school would jump to the AAC)... GSU's standing pat could happen. In contrast, if "choice No. 2" is a top-tier SBC school and it comes down to "us or them," GSU might pursue AAC membership.

I am waiting to see the new Presidents visiom. We stood pat the last time. If the AAC loses MORE of the schools our Adminstration considers a Academic Peers, I cant see us taking that carrot. It's already a league without Houston, Cincy and UCF. Lose USF and one or two others and all of a sudden the AAC is looking a lot like the SBC.

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On the Academic side the AAC should still be pretty strong, even if they lose USF, SMU, and Memphis. Not sure which group you would consider academic peers, but I know which group excites a President more (and it probably isn't the group that excites an AD).

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ran...iversities

Georgia State #239

AAC

Rice #17, Tulane #42, Temple #103, USF #103, Tulsa #136, UAB #148, ECU #213, Charlotte #227, FAU #277, UNT #277.

Navy - No National Ranking.

UTSA, Wichita State #299-391.

SBC

ODU #263, Marshall #288,

UL, ULM, Georgia Southern, Texas State, Arkansas State, South Alabama, USM #299-391

Troy, Coastal, JMU, App State - No National Ranking.

Actually, there are 6 AAC schools in the USNWR top 150, including #103 USF, and the United States Naval Academy's ranking in the 2022 edition of Best Colleges is "National Liberal Arts Colleges, #6."

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/uni...ademy-2101

American R1 Doctoral Universities:

Memphis
Rice (AAU)
Temple
Tulane (AAU)
Tulsa
UAB
UNT
USF
UTSA

American R2 Doctoral Universities:

SMU
Tulsa
UNCC
Wichita St.

Sun Belt R1 Doctoral Universities:

Ark. St.
Louisiana
Georgia State
Old Dominion
Southern Mississippi

R2 Doctoral Universities:

Georgia Southern
James Madison
South Alabama
Texas State
Marshall

Neither R1 nor R2 Doctoral Universities :

App. State.
Coastal
Louisiana-Monroe
Troy

I feel like people are sleeping on the possibility that, should the AAC lose Memphis, USF, and SMU to the Big XII, it will either do nothing - the league has been fine operating with 11 football members, and it seems the mandatory round-robin division CCG rule is being scrapped - or it adds UMass in all sports to shore up basketball and as an inducement to try to keep Temple happy. Then just go with an 8 game schedule with 3 annual opponents, and rotate through the remaining 8 in a way where, in a 2 year cycle, you also play a home-home with 2 schools and play the remaining 6 once. In basketball have 3 permanent home-home opponents, then play 6 of the remaining 8 twice and the other 2 schools once in a given year for a 20 game slate.

FB: UMass, Temple, Navy, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa.
BB: UMass, Temple, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa, Wichita State.

(05-11-2022 11:01 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  I feel like people are sleeping on the possibility that, should the AAC lose Memphis, USF, and SMU to the Big XII, it will either do nothing - the league has been fine operating with 11 football members, and it seems the mandatory round-robin division CCG rule is being scrapped - or it adds UMass in all sports to shore up basketball and as an inducement to try to keep Temple happy. Then just go with an 8 game schedule with 3 annual opponents, and rotate through the remaining 8 in a way where, in a 2 year cycle, you also play a home-home with 2 schools and play the remaining 6 once. In basketball have 3 permanent home-home opponents, then play 6 of the remaining 8 twice and the other 2 schools once in a given year for a 20 game slate.

FB: UMass, Temple, Navy, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa.
BB: UMass, Temple, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa, Wichita State.

One counterargument to adding UMass and stopping at 12 is that UMass is in 8th place in the poll, with just one more vote than distant UTEP.

Another is that, apparently, ESPN felt that, in order for their deal with the AAC to be sufficiently profitable, the conference would have to have 14 schools with sizable markets.

If UMass could strengthen their FB/MBB programs, they could be a replacement option for the conference, which could really benefit from having another team in the northeastern U.S. viewership market, to replace UConn. In fact, from a purely viewership market standpoint, they might be one of the conference's better options, if their teams were stronger.

Give us a couple of years with our new investment in coaching staffs and such. As of right now we're in no place to be considered for realignment, but if Brown and Martin can get the teams going who knows.

(05-12-2022 05:51 PM)e-parade Wrote:  Give us a couple of years with our new investment in coaching staffs and such. As of right now we're in no place to be considered for realignment, but if Brown and Martin can get the teams going who knows.

Well that and you have to do something beyond cosmetic with your stadium.

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(05-11-2022 08:09 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  With Boise becoming Big12’s 16th member, MW and AAC merge and get tv contract to feed all mouths.

Georgia State becomes full AAC member and Seattle and Denver become non-football members.

3, 7-team divisions for football with Army Navy and AirForce as football independents playing 6 games vs AAC divisional teams per year and all 3 academies part of Mega-AAC tv contract. As well as part of 4-team AAC football championship tournament…3 division winners + highest ranked at large (which can be one of the 3 academies).

Army/Navy are football only, but AFA full member making 12 AAC west division members for all other sports (also why Seattle and Denver…to make 12 western teams).

With Georgia State and Wichita completing the 12 team AAC east division.

No thanks

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(05-11-2022 11:01 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  I feel like people are sleeping on the possibility that, should the AAC lose Memphis, USF, and SMU to the Big XII, it will either do nothing - the league has been fine operating with 11 football members, and it seems the mandatory round-robin division CCG rule is being scrapped - or it adds UMass in all sports to shore up basketball and as an inducement to try to keep Temple happy. Then just go with an 8 game schedule with 3 annual opponents, and rotate through the remaining 8 in a way where, in a 2 year cycle, you also play a home-home with 2 schools and play the remaining 6 once. In basketball have 3 permanent home-home opponents, then play 6 of the remaining 8 twice and the other 2 schools once in a given year for a 20 game slate.

FB: UMass, Temple, Navy, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa.
BB: UMass, Temple, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa, Wichita State.

In that scenario the AAC loses 2 eastern schools and one right in the center. Plus it's really ugly from a FB quality standpoint. I'd hope ECU is on the phone with the SBC.

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(05-13-2022 03:37 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 11:01 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  I feel like people are sleeping on the possibility that, should the AAC lose Memphis, USF, and SMU to the Big XII, it will either do nothing - the league has been fine operating with 11 football members, and it seems the mandatory round-robin division CCG rule is being scrapped - or it adds UMass in all sports to shore up basketball and as an inducement to try to keep Temple happy. Then just go with an 8 game schedule with 3 annual opponents, and rotate through the remaining 8 in a way where, in a 2 year cycle, you also play a home-home with 2 schools and play the remaining 6 once. In basketball have 3 permanent home-home opponents, then play 6 of the remaining 8 twice and the other 2 schools once in a given year for a 20 game slate.

FB: UMass, Temple, Navy, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa.
BB: UMass, Temple, ECU, Charlotte, UAB, FAU, Tulane, Rice, UTSA, UNT, Tulsa, Wichita State.

In that scenario the AAC loses 2 eastern schools and one right in the center. Plus it's really ugly from a FB quality standpoint. I'd hope ECU is on the phone with the SBC.

If they were to join the SBC, the American would probably respond by adding MTSU or WKU, either of which would be a larger market, and do fine from the exchange.

However, ESPN has made clear their preference for the AAC to have 14 members, so it's unlikely that their membership would drop from 14 to 12. Thus, if they were to lose Memphis, SMU, USF, and ECU (to the SBC), and to add UMass, the American would probably add 3 more schools such as MTSU, WKU, and Air Force, CSU, FIU, or LaTech

FB: WKU, UTSA, UNT, UAB, Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, Rice, Navy, MTSU, Massachusetts, FAU, Charlotte, and Air Force, CSU, FIU, or LaTech.

MBB: WKU, Wichita State, UTSA, UNT, UAB, Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, Rice, MTSU, Massachusetts, FAU, Charlotte, and Air Force, CSU, FIU, or LaTech.

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