(05-10-2022 07:26 PM)esayem Wrote: The concept is a lot older than three years. Try 50 years!
The NCAA failed at allowing it to happen in ‘75, ‘78, ‘81, ‘90, and so in. As matter of fact, the more FCS directional schools moving to FBS and Division II, III etc schools moving to D1, the more likely it will actually happen.
I find it humorous that people predicting this “novel” idea believe they are some sort of guru. Try again!
I think I may have told you, as I have posted it several times over the years, but John McKay and Bear Bryant were the first in my memory to propose it in the very early 70's.
The reason it was not acted upon was practical then. The cost of travel versus the meager media revenue of that era made it DOA to have a far-flung super conference.
It has percolated over the decades but when travel was no longer an issue schools all were making more in the late 80's and early 90's and all were competitive and more importantly had no idea what top values were. This led to some bad contracts.
The AD's and presidents now have estimates based on size, scope and composition of the super "league" more than conference. 110-120 million depending upon the size has been tendered and verified by outside firms. Basketball (not an issue for Bear and McKay) now adds fuel as 2.25 x present earnings has been kicked around.
The last 3 years (beginning just before COVID) has led to a lot of communication between schools. It's much farther down the road as a concept than the press has been told. It picked up steam with the Alston suit. It took off with he Alston ruling.
Stu is correct that many are only waiting to see how NIL is handled and what the Pay for Play ruling will say. Texas and Oklahoma's move was the first response to this. There will be many more responses.
The concept hasn't been Novel since '71. I've never been a Guru either. I simply know what is being discussed and what is likely.
How old is my thread on Time, Money and Economic Disparity? Eight years ago I told a laughing dismissive board it was a hostile takeover by corporate media entities. Still laughing now Esayem? Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC was first viably discussed in the SEC presidents' meeting ~1987. Was serious in '89-90. Then not. Then off and on until NIL. Texas and Oklahoma administrations, boosters and AD's were then compelled to act. They are only the first.
Here I endured the Texas and Oklahoma will never join the SEC comments. I listened to all the reasons the Big 10's academics would win out. Yawn!
Now I'm hearing it again when UNC called the SEC in 2011 after Maryland announced and "allegedly" (I say this because officially unofficial emissaries were used) visited Birmingham incognito 3 days after the OU/UT leak.
I'd love to see Tobacky Road head to the B1G. It's just not what has been lined up behind the scenes. And ESPN has a say.
What's happened here for years is I tell you what's coming and the board screams never because some talking head didn't say it. You live in confident denial, slink off when wrong, and slowly regain the courage to hurl insults again just in time to again be proven wrong.
How many times have I had to tell you that beat writers get a headline once something has happened. When it doesn't happen after being rumored they are given a gloss (spin) depending upon whether it makes a school or a conference look better. Things planned which fall apart "simply never happened" and that's for legal reasons.
Breakaway talks are well advanced. But believe what you must. But no P5 AD wants to live with a 40-50 million dollar deficit for 11 years and no president wants to suffer in the public eye. Time, money, and economic disparity have done their work.