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RE: At 14 teams, Will the AAC Maintain Dominance Over the NY6/Access Spot?
(04-01-2022 10:29 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (04-01-2022 09:58 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: (04-01-2022 09:19 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: (04-01-2022 04:54 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote: Louisiana would have made the access bowl in 2021 had Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston already been in the Big 12. Same for Coastal in 2020. I'm not sure whether App, Boise, or Memphis would have gotten the edge in 2019 with the SOS Memphis would have lost without Cincy, UCF, and Houston.
AAC dominance is over, and this is going to open wide up.
Hard to say for sure ULL or Coastal would have been the choice. Take Cincy, UCF, and UH off the schedule and replace them with Rice, UAB, and Charlotte, then some of the remaining AAC teams suddenly have three more wins and could be ranked above Coastal or ULL.
Loki,
Just curious for your perspective. I know you've been a loyal Rice guy going back to the early 2010's when you and I posted on Frank the Tank's blog when it was active.
I remember you were pretty bummed when Rice was basically left behind in C-USA 3.0 with schools you didn't consider peers. Now that Rice is moving to the AAC West to be in a division that includes three other Texas teams, and includes well respected private schools Tulane, SMU, and Tulsa, as well as the Naval Academy for football, does that provide some sense of relief? Honestly, the AAC West as a division makes plenty of sense, to me. Knowing the SWC days are over, and a Big 12 invitation would require a loooooooot more dominoes to fall to the point it would basically be the AAC all over again, is this kind of an optimum situation for your Owls? I imagine it would. Just from my vantage point, Rice finally seems like a winner in the conference realignment game.
The AAC East I think is more concerning. It's as spread out as it gets in FBS this side of the MWC, where it is so sparsely populated that there is zero choice but to be be scattered. I contend that proximity still matters not just for travel costs, but also for fan interest, i.e., ticket sales. All, of course, would take any P5 invitation. Temple at this point must be there reluctantly, with no real alternatives; I don't buy A-10/FBS Independence or MAC membership as viable alternatives at all. They are kind of stuck. I do wonder if the only thing keeping ECU from considering the SB is the overwhelming exit fees and the *currently* higher media payout. So ECU is also stuck. USF and Memphis have a plausible chance of bouncing to the Big 12 beyond mere wishful thinking. It seems like the only content members might be new members Charlotte, UAB, and FAU.
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As for Louisiana, Coastal, and App, all three finished bowl season with one loss on the season. Louisiana and Coastal finished their respective regular seasons and bowl seasons well ahead of all AAC teams who aren't Big 12-bound. App finished the regular season behind Cotton Bowl-bound Memphis, but Memphis would not have had those two strong wins vs. Cincinnati, so it's debatable who would have come out on top.
I'm just saying no league is going to dominate. The Sun Belt is going to get some teams into the NY6. The AAC will continue to get their share, but not always. The MW will get some in there, too. And then there will be some unpredictable MAC or C-USA team that makes a 13-0 run at some point, though SOS will be weak compared to the other three G5's.
In the current world of college athletics, this AAC West is about the best Rice could realistically hope for. SMU is the second most played rivalry in Rice's history (90), behind only Texas (96). For SMU we're the second most behind TCU. The other Texas schools in this conference seem to me to be the second tier of the Texas FBS programs, behind the P5 schools, but ahead of UTEP, Texas State and the new call-ups.
As for the AAC dominating the NY6, I certainly agree that things are much more wide open now. I would even throw the MAC in with the AAC, MWC, and SB. CUSA will take some time to figure out. My comment was only on the counter-factual 'would have'. It's really a 'could have'. If you take the B12 three out you have to take the losses they inflicted out also.
I just looked up Rice v AAC W, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, Navy, NoTexas, and UTSA are all in the Top 20 of games played with Rice. I had not realized that NoTexas and UTSA had gotten that high.
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