https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz


Absolutely a vote of no confidence.

What really plays well with Americans is the accept no fault for the dumpster fire that is about to get worse.

just think if al gore didn't invent the internutz whilst endorsing his global warming green world...

#muhBliss

(03-12-2022 12:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz
Absolutely a vote of no confidence.
What really plays well with Americans is the accept no fault for the dumpster fire that is about to get worse.

And what is really sad is that republicans are very likely to blow their opportunity because of their own political stupidity.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but my enemies need better enemies.

(03-12-2022 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 12:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz
Absolutely a vote of no confidence.
What really plays well with Americans is the accept no fault for the dumpster fire that is about to get worse.

And what is really sad is that republicans are very likely to blow their opportunity because of their own political stupidity.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but my enemies need better enemies.

Why do you keep saying that? VA didn't do that in the recent state elections and the state had a Democrat Governor, LT Governor, Attorney General, 2 Democrat Senators in Washington, and had voted Democrat in the last 2 Presidential elections.

We now have a Republican Governor, LT Governor (Black), and Attorney General (Hispanic) that were all elected just 4 months ago. The state's house of delegates also changed to favor the Republicans.

Most people all over the country aren't happy at all with what has been happening over the past year or so.

(03-12-2022 02:39 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 12:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz
Absolutely a vote of no confidence.
What really plays well with Americans is the accept no fault for the dumpster fire that is about to get worse.

And what is really sad is that republicans are very likely to blow their opportunity because of their own political stupidity.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but my enemies need better enemies.

Why do you keep saying that? VA didn't do that in the recent state elections and the state had a Democrat Governor, LT Governor, Attorney General, 2 Democrat Senators in Washington, and had voted Democrat in the last 2 Presidential elections.

We now have a Republican Governor, LT Governor (Black), and Attorney General (Hispanic) that were all elected just 4 months ago. The state's house of delegates also changed to favor the Republicans.

Most people all over the country aren't happy at all with what has been happening over the past year or so.

This cannot be emphasized enough. Superb post, ODU BBALL!

The path forward for Republicans and conservatives (yes, we know, not the same thing) to redeem our nation from the poison of progressivism is simple and obvious. Stick to points that matter, and matter now.

=> Okay, the Democrats cheated their way to victory in 2020. I don’t know if that’s the case or not, but I’ll take your word for it. Not because I agree, but rather because it doesn’t now matter. Making this the front-and-center issue for 2022 and 2024 is Hillary-like loserism. It gains nothing aside from salving your own hurt feelings, or in order to show your worshipful allegiance to the precious Orange man. Feel free to think that way if you wish. But don’t insist on it from others.

=> Have some humility and patience for those who are still on the fence. There are plenty who are ready to take the red pill. But forcing it down their throats is not going to work. I feel terrible for the younger generations. We boomers utterly failed them by not stopping the progressive indoctrination that seeped into our schools and our culture over the past 40 years. Shaming or dismissing these younger voters is lazy and futile. We, who let this happen, need to keep our geriatric outrage in check if we want to get this country back on track.

=> Support candidates who know how to fight back - - effectively. (Here is the part where I piss everyone off, but it is a central point.). Donald Trump is a fighter. But he is NOT effective. He cheerleads for a committed audience of a little better than 1/3 of the American electorate. He turns off everyone else, and forces them to swallow their disdain in order to support him. Look instead to those who are not just fighters, but are effective at it. Ron DeSantis is the most prominent example, but he is not the only one.

ODU BBALL is exactly correct. We succeeded last year in blue (not purple) Virginia. It will work elsewhere in the nation, if Republicans/conservatives can just stay on message.

"Grown" tired of democrats. I've been tired of democrats since 1977.

(03-12-2022 08:12 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  "Grown" tired of democrats. I've been tired of democrats since 1977.

I don't think anyone"willingly" voted D in 2020. Dead people don't have will to vote.

(03-12-2022 08:12 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  "Grown" tired of democrats. I've been tired of democrats since 1977.

About 1990 for me. When I was a kid in the 80s I’d go into voting booth with my mom or dad. Remember both of them saying “you don’t ever wanna vote for the ones with the D beside their name”. Early life lesson. Then in high school I had a civics teacher who encouraged us to listen to Rush Limbaugh (this was when he was 1st starting) and taught us the way gov was supposed to work while painting the Clintons and local Memphis Dems in a negative light. Thankful for my private school education free from the liberal stupidity.

ABQ had a plastic bag ban until this week. https://www.krqe.com/news/politics-gover...ordinance/

The City council that enacted it a few years ago has changed from being Democrat majority to nearly evenly split. Right before this past election, the city council banned all plastic bags. Up until then those thicker plastic bags had been used.

People are tired of being told what to do and Democrats are constantly telling people what to do.

(03-12-2022 08:37 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 08:12 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  "Grown" tired of democrats. I've been tired of democrats since 1977.

About 1990 for me. When I was a kid in the 80s I’d go into voting booth with my mom or dad. Remember both of them saying “you don’t ever wanna vote for the ones with the D beside their name”. Early life lesson. Then in high school I had a civics teacher who encouraged us to listen to Rush Limbaugh (this was when he was 1st starting) and taught us the way gov was supposed to work while painting the Clintons and local Memphis Dems in a negative light. Thankful for my private school education free from the liberal stupidity.

There are a lot of people, particularly voters 18-34, who haven’t figured it out yet. The first presidential candidate the older ones in that group voted for was a Obama, and they were of the opinion it was a virtuous thing to put him in office. Then they had to hear 4 years of “Orange Man Bad”. Right now, some of them are starting to see why the things are the way they are in this country for a reason—- it might not be perfect, but it works. The ideas of the Left have been tried in them past and they have always failed by comparison.

(03-12-2022 12:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Is all the Ukrainian flags being flown some sort of virtue signal? Neighbor a couple doors down put up a Ukraine flag the other day and IIRC he is a bit of a Leftie based on some things I’ve seen on the neighborhood Facebook page.

(03-12-2022 07:20 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 02:39 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 12:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz
Absolutely a vote of no confidence.
What really plays well with Americans is the accept no fault for the dumpster fire that is about to get worse.

And what is really sad is that republicans are very likely to blow their opportunity because of their own political stupidity.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but my enemies need better enemies.

Why do you keep saying that? VA didn't do that in the recent state elections and the state had a Democrat Governor, LT Governor, Attorney General, 2 Democrat Senators in Washington, and had voted Democrat in the last 2 Presidential elections.

We now have a Republican Governor, LT Governor (Black), and Attorney General (Hispanic) that were all elected just 4 months ago. The state's house of delegates also changed to favor the Republicans.

Most people all over the country aren't happy at all with what has been happening over the past year or so.

This cannot be emphasized enough. Superb post, ODU BBALL!

The path forward for Republicans and conservatives (yes, we know, not the same thing) to redeem our nation from the poison of progressivism is simple and obvious. Stick to points that matter, and matter now.

=> Okay, the Democrats cheated their way to victory in 2020. I don’t know if that’s the case or not, but I’ll take your word for it. Not because I agree, but rather because it doesn’t now matter. Making this the front-and-center issue for 2022 and 2024 is Hillary-like loserism. It gains nothing aside from salving your own hurt feelings, or in order to show your worshipful allegiance to the precious Orange man. Feel free to think that way if you wish. But don’t insist on it from others.

=> Have some humility and patience for those who are still on the fence. There are plenty who are ready to take the red pill. But forcing it down their throats is not going to work. I feel terrible for the younger generations. We boomers utterly failed them by not stopping the progressive indoctrination that seeped into our schools and our culture over the past 40 years. Shaming or dismissing these younger voters is lazy and futile. We, who let this happen, need to keep our geriatric outrage in check if we want to get this country back on track.

=> Support candidates who know how to fight back - - effectively. (Here is the part where I piss everyone off, but it is a central point.). Donald Trump is a fighter. But he is NOT effective. He cheerleads for a committed audience of a little better than 1/3 of the American electorate. He turns off everyone else, and forces them to swallow their disdain in order to support him. Look instead to those who are not just fighters, but are effective at it. Ron DeSantis is the most prominent example, but he is not the only one.

ODU BBALL is exactly correct. We succeeded last year in blue (not purple) Virginia. It will work elsewhere in the nation, if Republicans/conservatives can just stay on message.

Why can’t you make any post without trying to down Trump in it? You were doing well but just couldn’t help yourself. I don’t consider the 75 million 1/3 of the electorate, I consider it more people than have voted for any Republican in history by about 10,000,000.

(03-12-2022 02:24 PM)banker Wrote:  Why can’t you make any post without trying to down Trump in it? You were doing well but just couldn’t help yourself.

=> TDS - - in my case defined as the revulsion at the progressive damage wrought upon our nation, brought upon us by Donald Trump thinking he was too good to have to campaign to anyone other than his fully committed fans.

I don’t consider the 75 million 1/3 of the electorate, I consider it more people than have voted for any Republican in history by about 10,000,000.

=> The number was actually only 74,999,999. I voted for him, but did so out of love of country, not love of Donald. If he had not acted like a total clown leading up to the election, that 10 million would have instead been 20 million, and we would not be in this mess.

I know you’re not going to accept my word on this banker. But I’ll say it anyway. I admire Donald Trump. He saved our nation from the corrupt Clinton machine in 2016. And he governed far better than I ever dreamed he would. But he blew it in the 2020 election. And he’s pretty much the ONLY Republican who will manage to find a way to blow it again in 2024. I am convinced of that, and it bothers me greatly.

If you go back and read ODU BBALL’s post, to which I was responding, you will get a better statement of the important point: Republicans can and will win in 2022 and 2024 if they stay on message, like was done in Virginia last year. But that means running candidates who are capable of staying on message.

DeSantis/Pompeo 2024!

(03-12-2022 04:26 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 02:24 PM)banker Wrote:  Why can’t you make any post without trying to down Trump in it? You were doing well but just couldn’t help yourself.

=> TDS - - in my case defined as the revulsion at the progressive damage wrought upon our nation, brought upon us by Donald Trump thinking he was too good to have to campaign to anyone other than his fully committed fans.

I don’t consider the 75 million 1/3 of the electorate, I consider it more people than have voted for any Republican in history by about 10,000,000.

=> The number was actually only 74,999,999. I voted for him, but did so out of love of country, not love of Donald. If he had not acted like a total clown leading up to the election, that 10 million would have instead been 20 million, and we would not be in this mess.

I know you’re not going to accept my word on this banker. But I’ll say it anyway. I admire Donald Trump. He saved our nation from the corrupt Clinton machine in 2016. And he governed far better than I ever dreamed he would. But he blew it in the 2020 election. And he’s pretty much the ONLY Republican who will manage to find a way to blow it again in 2024. I am convinced of that, and it bothers me greatly.

If you go back and read ODU BBALL’s post, to which I was responding, you will get a better statement of the important point: Republicans can and will win in 2022 and 2024 if they stay on message, like was done in Virginia last year. But that means running candidates who are capable of staying on message.

DeSantis/Pompeo 2024!

I doubt any con on this board would have an issue with that combo...

you already know if #groverII happens, I and many others are all-in...

I have a 'sneaky inkling', you will as well...

regardless, the pubs are primed to reverse the "fail of '20" ... DeSantis/Ponmpeo or DeSantis/Noem or DeSantis/X = good if #groverII = 0

right now, I'm more concerned how varying states are handling this debacle...

we're now to the point (again, ref: teddy bear R.) how the 21st century robber barons are THEE ENEMY!

IMO, DJT understands the dichotomy of that psycho-systemic-convoluted-shitestorm to the advantage where, e) all the above benefit with his policy in action...

if not #groverII, I'm all-in on any DeSantis ticket ... he'll do the same thingy with a prettier face + w/o a yankee 'tude until the msm torches his arse...

@1=1

(03-12-2022 04:26 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 02:24 PM)banker Wrote:  Why can’t you make any post without trying to down Trump in it? You were doing well but just couldn’t help yourself.

=> TDS - - in my case defined as the revulsion at the progressive damage wrought upon our nation, brought upon us by Donald Trump thinking he was too good to have to campaign to anyone other than his fully committed fans.

I don’t consider the 75 million 1/3 of the electorate, I consider it more people than have voted for any Republican in history by about 10,000,000.

=> The number was actually only 74,999,999. I voted for him, but did so out of love of country, not love of Donald. If he had not acted like a total clown leading up to the election, that 10 million would have instead been 20 million, and we would not be in this mess.

I know you’re not going to accept my word on this banker. But I’ll say it anyway. I admire Donald Trump. He saved our nation from the corrupt Clinton machine in 2016. And he governed far better than I ever dreamed he would. But he blew it in the 2020 election. And he’s pretty much the ONLY Republican who will manage to find a way to blow it again in 2024. I am convinced of that, and it bothers me greatly.

If you go back and read ODU BBALL’s post, to which I was responding, you will get a better statement of the important point: Republicans can and will win in 2022 and 2024 if they stay on message, like was done in Virginia last year. But that means running candidates who are capable of staying on message.

DeSantis/Pompeo 2024!

You seriously believe this crap don't you? 75M votes was good enough for the most ever by any president except miraculously Joe Biden.. Supposedly Trunk was so disliked that he still set a record . Lol.

It had nothing to do with Trump. He could've gotten 100M votes. The Dems would've found 101M for Biden.

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(03-12-2022 08:39 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 04:26 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 02:24 PM)banker Wrote:  Why can’t you make any post without trying to down Trump in it? You were doing well but just couldn’t help yourself.

=> TDS - - in my case defined as the revulsion at the progressive damage wrought upon our nation, brought upon us by Donald Trump thinking he was too good to have to campaign to anyone other than his fully committed fans.

I don’t consider the 75 million 1/3 of the electorate, I consider it more people than have voted for any Republican in history by about 10,000,000.

=> The number was actually only 74,999,999. I voted for him, but did so out of love of country, not love of Donald. If he had not acted like a total clown leading up to the election, that 10 million would have instead been 20 million, and we would not be in this mess.

I know you’re not going to accept my word on this banker. But I’ll say it anyway. I admire Donald Trump. He saved our nation from the corrupt Clinton machine in 2016. And he governed far better than I ever dreamed he would. But he blew it in the 2020 election. And he’s pretty much the ONLY Republican who will manage to find a way to blow it again in 2024. I am convinced of that, and it bothers me greatly.

If you go back and read ODU BBALL’s post, to which I was responding, you will get a better statement of the important point: Republicans can and will win in 2022 and 2024 if they stay on message, like was done in Virginia last year. But that means running candidates who are capable of staying on message.

DeSantis/Pompeo 2024!

You seriously believe this crap don't you? 75M votes was good enough for the most ever by any president except miraculously Joe Biden.. Supposedly Trunk was so disliked that he still set a record . Lol.

It had nothing to do with Trump. He could've gotten 100M votes. The Dems would've found 101M for Biden.

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The fact that Biden got the most votes ever while Trump got the 2nd most ever in the 2020 election doesn't indicate anything odd or miraculous. It's simply a matter of the largest population ever eligible to vote in a US presidential election (239,247,182 voting eligible population, an increase of nearly 9 million from 2016) and the highest percentage turnout of those eligible voters since 1960 (66.9% of eligible voters in 2020 vs. 59.2% in 2016). Given the growth in population and the high turnout, it would be odd if both the winner and loser of the 2020 race hadn't broken prior records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turn..._elections

(03-12-2022 08:39 PM)b2b Wrote:  You seriously believe this crap don't you?

I do. And I also seriously believe that when 2024 Republican nominee Donald Trump manages to lose again in 2024, despite my having voted for him again, very few posters on this forum will have the honesty to say that maybe, just maybe, he wasn’t the way to go. It instead will be more of how the Democrats cheated again.

Trump supporters are like moths to a light bulb.

(03-12-2022 08:39 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 04:26 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 02:24 PM)banker Wrote:  Why can’t you make any post without trying to down Trump in it? You were doing well but just couldn’t help yourself.

=> TDS - - in my case defined as the revulsion at the progressive damage wrought upon our nation, brought upon us by Donald Trump thinking he was too good to have to campaign to anyone other than his fully committed fans.

I don’t consider the 75 million 1/3 of the electorate, I consider it more people than have voted for any Republican in history by about 10,000,000.

=> The number was actually only 74,999,999. I voted for him, but did so out of love of country, not love of Donald. If he had not acted like a total clown leading up to the election, that 10 million would have instead been 20 million, and we would not be in this mess.

I know you’re not going to accept my word on this banker. But I’ll say it anyway. I admire Donald Trump. He saved our nation from the corrupt Clinton machine in 2016. And he governed far better than I ever dreamed he would. But he blew it in the 2020 election. And he’s pretty much the ONLY Republican who will manage to find a way to blow it again in 2024. I am convinced of that, and it bothers me greatly.

If you go back and read ODU BBALL’s post, to which I was responding, you will get a better statement of the important point: Republicans can and will win in 2022 and 2024 if they stay on message, like was done in Virginia last year. But that means running candidates who are capable of staying on message.

DeSantis/Pompeo 2024!

You seriously believe this crap don't you? 75M votes was good enough for the most ever by any president except miraculously Joe Biden.. Supposedly Trunk was so disliked that he still set a record . Lol.

It had nothing to do with Trump. He could've gotten 100M votes. The Dems would've found 101M for Biden.

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Whether it be Trump or some other Republican who wins the WH is it still a case of biased press 24/7/52/365 about how terrible and corrupt one is?

If another Republican President endures what Trump did from the press we have serious issues beyond a party affiliation.

(03-12-2022 07:20 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 02:39 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-12-2022 12:12 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz
Absolutely a vote of no confidence.
What really plays well with Americans is the accept no fault for the dumpster fire that is about to get worse.

And what is really sad is that republicans are very likely to blow their opportunity because of their own political stupidity.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but my enemies need better enemies.

Why do you keep saying that? VA didn't do that in the recent state elections and the state had a Democrat Governor, LT Governor, Attorney General, 2 Democrat Senators in Washington, and had voted Democrat in the last 2 Presidential elections.

We now have a Republican Governor, LT Governor (Black), and Attorney General (Hispanic) that were all elected just 4 months ago. The state's house of delegates also changed to favor the Republicans.

Most people all over the country aren't happy at all with what has been happening over the past year or so.

This cannot be emphasized enough. Superb post, ODU BBALL!

The path forward for Republicans and conservatives (yes, we know, not the same thing) to redeem our nation from the poison of progressivism is simple and obvious. Stick to points that matter, and matter now.

=> Okay, the Democrats cheated their way to victory in 2020. I don’t know if that’s the case or not, but I’ll take your word for it. Not because I agree, but rather because it doesn’t now matter. Making this the front-and-center issue for 2022 and 2024 is Hillary-like loserism. It gains nothing aside from salving your own hurt feelings, or in order to show your worshipful allegiance to the precious Orange man. Feel free to think that way if you wish. But don’t insist on it from others.

=> Have some humility and patience for those who are still on the fence. There are plenty who are ready to take the red pill. But forcing it down their throats is not going to work. I feel terrible for the younger generations. We boomers utterly failed them by not stopping the progressive indoctrination that seeped into our schools and our culture over the past 40 years. Shaming or dismissing these younger voters is lazy and futile. We, who let this happen, need to keep our geriatric outrage in check if we want to get this country back on track.

=> Support candidates who know how to fight back - - effectively. (Here is the part where I piss everyone off, but it is a central point.). Donald Trump is a fighter. But he is NOT effective. He cheerleads for a committed audience of a little better than 1/3 of the American electorate. He turns off everyone else, and forces them to swallow their disdain in order to support him. Look instead to those who are not just fighters, but are effective at it. Ron DeSantis is the most prominent example, but he is not the only one.

ODU BBALL is exactly correct. We succeeded last year in blue (not purple) Virginia. It will work elsewhere in the nation, if Republicans/conservatives can just stay on message.

I’ve never even thought of the 2020 results being overturned. I blame Republicans at the state level for allowing the elections to be so insecure that cheating was easy to accomplish.

Now, my biggest fear is that our election system is still insecure and ripe for cheating again…….that not enough states have tightened up their election laws enough.

Are enough Americans unhappy with Democrats to deliver Republican majorities in both houses - yep………unless the Democrats have the big cheat in place again in the swing states……scares me to no end.