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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/statu...5240110081

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(01-12-2022 08:39 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/statu...5240110081

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Talking points are already out that this means higher wages and is a good thing.
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I really don't like the year over year comparisons. 2020 was such an unconventional year I don't know how to compare to it. It would be much better if they reported 2021 vs 2019 numbers.
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(01-12-2022 08:42 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(01-12-2022 08:39 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/statu...5240110081

PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON LIVED BY THE SEA

Talking points are already out that this means higher wages and is a good thing.



https://twitter.com/GrantWilliams82/stat...6737235973

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Nice job Brandon.
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At least their grocery store in the picture is stocked. Our Walmart and HEB are starting to have as many empty spaces as product on shelves.

BTW, inflation is much worse than what the Feds are reporting that's why interest rates are already rising. And, NO wages will not keep up and I'm pretty sure Eagle was being facetious.
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(01-12-2022 08:47 AM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  I really don't like the year over year comparisons. 2020 was such an unconventional year I don't know how to compare to it. It would be much better if they reported 2021 vs 2019 numbers.
Im pretty sure someone found that out yesterday that they changed the CPI formula to look at 19 and 20.... which to me is playing with the numbers.

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I was told someplace that Inflation was a good thing.


It reflects progress.... It means that things are moving forward as opposed to those stale DJT years where unemployment and inflation were stagnant.

I mean I am getting a 4% raise this year after years of only getting 1.5% - 2%. I AM F-ING STOKED! 03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead
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(01-12-2022 09:43 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I was told someplace that Inflation was a good thing.


It reflects progress.... It means that things are moving forward as opposed to those stale DJT years where unemployment and inflation were stagnant.

I mean I am getting a 4% raise this year after years of only getting 1.5% - 2%. I AM F-ING STOKED! 03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead

It's great if you don't plan on actually SPENDING your money.
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(01-12-2022 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(01-12-2022 09:43 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I was told someplace that Inflation was a good thing.


It reflects progress.... It means that things are moving forward as opposed to those stale DJT years where unemployment and inflation were stagnant.

I mean I am getting a 4% raise this year after years of only getting 1.5% - 2%. I AM F-ING STOKED! 03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead

It's great if you don't plan on actually SPENDING your money.

Or paying taxes on it. It's almost like this inflation thing is by plan, maybe to inflate away all that debt. Call me crazy just seems like quite the coincidence.
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Obviously inflation is a major problem (if not the biggest), but it is disingenuous to compare any YOY comparisons in the midst of a pandemic.

But Biden has done nothing about it. Rarely even mentions it, pretends like it doesn't exist. So in that regard he deserves blame. It's the same logic the left applied to Trump and his COVID response.
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Let's go Brandon
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(01-12-2022 10:26 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  
(01-12-2022 10:04 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(01-12-2022 09:43 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I was told someplace that Inflation was a good thing.


It reflects progress.... It means that things are moving forward as opposed to those stale DJT years where unemployment and inflation were stagnant.

I mean I am getting a 4% raise this year after years of only getting 1.5% - 2%. I AM F-ING STOKED! 03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead03-banghead

It's great if you don't plan on actually SPENDING your money.

Or paying taxes on it. It's almost like this inflation thing is by plan, maybe to inflate away all that debt. Call me crazy just seems like quite the coincidence.

inflating away our debt has pretty much been national monetary policy since the '70s.

There was no way this wasn't going to be a problem once the pandemic started. We've increased the money supply more than any other time period in the history of the nation.

If we're being honest, if Trump was reelected we'd be dealing with the same problems. Trump was not a fiscal conservative. Biden hasn't done anythign to help, and his infrastructure plan would only exacerbate the problem. This is going to be a recurring issue, because whether its an R or D in the white house, this is how we've been running our govts since Clinton was in office.

Rising interest rates were always going to happen. Once our RE bubble pops it should slow down as well. Hopefully this upcoming recession doesn't go into depression.
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Literally having a debate with a Facebook friend about minimum wage and inflation.

He is adamant raising the minimum wage has never caused inflation in any scenario....local, state, or federal.

And the guy is a smart dude. I posted about 4 articles from San Francisco, to California as a whole, to Seattle, that obviously calls out the rise in cost of everything from the minimum wage increase.

He also said raising the minimum wage at this point in time will not throw fuel on the inflation fire....

Insanity! Its an undeniable fact it will 100% impact inflation.

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(01-12-2022 11:20 AM)maximus Wrote:  Literally having a debate with a Facebook friend about minimum wage and inflation.

He is adamant raising the minimum wage has never caused inflation in any scenario....local, state, or federal.

And the guy is a smart dude. I posted about 4 articles from San Francisco, to California as a whole, to Seattle, that obviously calls out the rise in cost of everything from the minimum wage increase.

He also said raising the minimum wage at this point in time will not throw fuel on the inflation fire....

Insanity! Its an undeniable fact it will 100% impact inflation.

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Ask him "then why don't we raise the minimum wage to $100 or $1,000 if it doesn't raise inflation?"
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(01-12-2022 11:42 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  
(01-12-2022 11:20 AM)maximus Wrote:  Literally having a debate with a Facebook friend about minimum wage and inflation.

He is adamant raising the minimum wage has never caused inflation in any scenario....local, state, or federal.

And the guy is a smart dude. I posted about 4 articles from San Francisco, to California as a whole, to Seattle, that obviously calls out the rise in cost of everything from the minimum wage increase.

He also said raising the minimum wage at this point in time will not throw fuel on the inflation fire....

Insanity! Its an undeniable fact it will 100% impact inflation.

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Ask him "then why don't we raise the minimum wage to $100 or $1,000 if it doesn't raise inflation?"
I already did!!!

And of course absolutely no response from him on the articles of recent proof and what you just said.

Dead freaking silence.

My solution to him...

Keep it just like it is today, local and state. If you choose to live in a city or state and want to run a business and pay 15-20 bucks for non-skilled, non-educated labor....by all freaking means do it. But dont mandate anything from the federal level.

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(01-12-2022 11:20 AM)maximus Wrote:  Literally having a debate with a Facebook friend about minimum wage and inflation.

He is adamant raising the minimum wage has never caused inflation in any scenario....local, state, or federal.

And the guy is a smart dude. I posted about 4 articles from San Francisco, to California as a whole, to Seattle, that obviously calls out the rise in cost of everything from the minimum wage increase.

He also said raising the minimum wage at this point in time will not throw fuel on the inflation fire....

Insanity! Its an undeniable fact it will 100% impact inflation.

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I agree with him if it was raised to only $10 or $15 an hour because the market has already effectively set the minimum wage at that point, so it wouldn't have any impact on business costs. The bill passed last spring that paid everyone to stay home basically moved the minimum wage to ~$15/hour without specifically legislating it by drastically reducing the workforce supply. A good percentage of the current inflation we are experiencing can be directly attributed to this. I would attribute the rest to raw material shortages due to the pandemic, and monetary policy.

IMO, the minimum wage should be abolished. All it does is create a barrier to entry into the workforce for the lowest skilled workers.
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Biden points to ‘progress’ as US prices hit record high last year


Quote:US consumer prices jumped last year at the fastest pace in four decades, the government confirmed Wednesday, underscoring the potent inflation wave that has sapped public support for President Joe Biden even as the economy recovers from the pandemic.

The seven percent increase in the Labor Department’s consumer price index (CPI) over the 12 months to December was the highest since June 1982, as prices rose for an array of goods, especially housing, cars and food.

Since taking office last January, Biden has presided over an economy that has expanded rapidly and seen millions of people who lost their jobs to the Covid-19 pandemic return to work.

But a collision between rebounding demand, labor shortages and global supply chain snarls that made crucial components like computer chips scarce caused prices last year to climb upwards at an ever-faster rate.

In a statement, Biden said the latest data contained signs of “progress” as inflation in some key sectors slowed.

“At the same time, this report underscores that we still have more work to do, with price increases still too high and squeezing family budgets,” he said.

But if relief is near, economists say it may not come particularly quickly.

“The peak is close, but the speed of the coming downshift is uncertain,” said Ian Shepherdson of Pantheon Macroeconomics.

For the Republican opposition, the report underscored their belief that the Democratic president has mishandled the recovery.

“This trend isn’t ‘transitory,’ and it’s all happening under Democrats’ one-party control,” tweeted Kevin McCarthy, the top Republican in the House of Representatives, of which his party is seen as favored to win control in elections in November.

The White House has attempted to lower prices by sorting out supply chains to relieve shortages and address alleged price fixing in industries like meatpacking, but the most potent actor against inflation is the independent Federal Reserve.

Central bankers already have indicated they are ready to raise interest rates from zero in the coming months, and many observers see the first increase as soon as March.

Kathy Bostjancic of Oxford Economics said the Fed now sees getting inflation back towards its two-percent goal as its “top priority,” and could raise rates as many as four times this year.

– From cars to food –
Prices for shelter, including rental properties, have been one of the main contributors to inflation, rising 4.1 percent in the year, while food rose 6.3 percent, the Labor Department said.

However, in both cases the December monthly increase was smaller than in the prior month.

After slumping during the economic crisis in 2020, energy prices rebounded strongly last year with a 29.3 percent gain, the report said.

But in December, energy costs contracted, falling 0.4 percent from November, indicating Americans may soon see relief at gas stations and on their heating bills.

There was no such respite for used car prices, another main driver of inflation in the year, which jumped 3.5 percent in December and 37.3 percent over the course of 2021, according to the data.

Food and energy prices can be volatile, but with those items stripped out, consumer prices rose more than expected with a 0.6 percent gain compared to November.

For the year, they were up 5.5 percent, the highest since February 1991.

– Approaching peak? –
There were indications in the data that the price surge may be ebbing.

Overall CPI growth slowed to 0.5 percent in December, less than the 0.8 percent increase in the prior month.

Some of the major drivers of inflation will ease over the course of this year, Shepherdson predicted, including the shortage of real estate that has pushed home prices and rents upwards, and the scarcity of semiconductors that has crippled automobile assembly lines.

While annualized consumer prices may eventually peak at a level higher than in December “the run of big increases is over, and it will start to fall in March,” he said.
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There's a reason the admin is all about "voting rights" now.
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(01-12-2022 10:34 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Obviously inflation is a major problem (if not the biggest), but it is disingenuous to compare any YOY comparisons in the midst of a pandemic.

But Biden has done nothing about it. Rarely even mentions it, pretends like it doesn't exist. So in that regard he deserves blame. It's the same logic the left applied to Trump and his COVID response.

Biden claims its transitory. In other words—he thinks it’s just going to magically go away on its own—-Worse yet, Biden continues to push his “build back better bill” inflationary policies which are guaranteed to make it worse. President Houseplant is worse than Carter in every way possible.
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