(12-12-2021 12:21 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Democrats want to kill babies in the womb, yet don't want American's to have the possibility to abort one another with a gun.

Babies can’t shoot back. Otherwise liberals would be mostly dead.

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Are you still in college?

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

Because eventually the rest of us will have to save their stupid asses. It will cost the rest of us a lot of money we don’t want to give to the idiots or a lot of patriots will have to die to do it. One or the other WILL happen.

The prayer of the Democrats:

"Oh glorious Party, make us all your slaves! Awoman!"

If you're for killing babies, at least make the argument that the government shouldn't be involved in "forcing" people what to do with their own bodies. Or wait, the vaccines...errr I mean just women's bodies!!

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Even communist and socialist have an elite ruling class. Are you just obtuse, or worse? Let me give you something to chew on.

The democrats and other lefties you support are for equality and closing the gross inequities that exist in our system, I bet you would say. Then tell me why legislation pushed by Trump and passed by republicans that limited deductions for state tax and real estate taxes was quickly a target for elimination by the left? That tax law only impacted the rich, people with high income and high value property. It eliminated tax write offs for people owning multiple homes essentially.

Explain.

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Oh, I didn't realize that millionaires and billionaires in CA only made their money in California. I just assumed they made it from all over the globe.

As far as the topic at hand, as soon as someone shows me where in the Constitution it says “the rights of citizens to have abortions will not be infringed” I will buy the equivalency to guns.

(12-13-2021 01:47 PM)banker Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Even communist and socialist have an elite ruling class. Are you just obtuse, or worse? Let me give you something to chew on.

The democrats and other lefties you support are for equality and closing the gross inequities that exist in our system, I bet you would say. Then tell me why legislation pushed by Trump and passed by republicans that limited deductions for state tax and real estate taxes was quickly a target for elimination by the left? That tax law only impacted the rich, people with high income and high value property. It eliminated tax write offs for people owning multiple homes essentially.

Explain.

He can't because college doesn't teach our young adults to think independently anymore.

It's all buzz words and idealism. When he starts paying taxes, gets married, has children these issues will seem different.

(12-13-2021 01:52 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 01:47 PM)banker Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Even communist and socialist have an elite ruling class. Are you just obtuse, or worse? Let me give you something to chew on.

The democrats and other lefties you support are for equality and closing the gross inequities that exist in our system, I bet you would say. Then tell me why legislation pushed by Trump and passed by republicans that limited deductions for state tax and real estate taxes was quickly a target for elimination by the left? That tax law only impacted the rich, people with high income and high value property. It eliminated tax write offs for people owning multiple homes essentially.

Explain.

He can't because college doesn't teach our young adults to think independently anymore.

It's all buzz words and idealism. When he starts paying taxes, gets married, has children these issues will seem different.

clt will adopt - then go soylent gardening …

#hoehoehoe

(12-13-2021 01:52 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 01:47 PM)banker Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Even communist and socialist have an elite ruling class. Are you just obtuse, or worse? Let me give you something to chew on.

The democrats and other lefties you support are for equality and closing the gross inequities that exist in our system, I bet you would say. Then tell me why legislation pushed by Trump and passed by republicans that limited deductions for state tax and real estate taxes was quickly a target for elimination by the left? That tax law only impacted the rich, people with high income and high value property. It eliminated tax write offs for people owning multiple homes essentially.

Explain.

He can't because college doesn't teach our young adults to think independently anymore.

It's all buzz words and idealism. When he starts paying taxes, gets married, has children these issues will seem different.

One thing for sure, he probably owns a car so at least that gives him an idea of how screwed up his side of the political spectrum is taking away his money...or his parents? Let me clarify, gas prices, because it probably went over his head.

(12-13-2021 01:47 PM)banker Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Even communist and socialist have an elite ruling class. Are you just obtuse, or worse? Let me give you something to chew on.

The democrats and other lefties you support are for equality and closing the gross inequities that exist in our system, I bet you would say. Then tell me why legislation pushed by Trump and passed by republicans that limited deductions for state tax and real estate taxes was quickly a target for elimination by the left? That tax law only impacted the rich, people with high income and high value property. It eliminated tax write offs for people owning multiple homes essentially.

Explain.

When Mao won the Chinese revolution he brutally murdered thousands of landlords. Castro murdered and exiled thousands of wealthy plantation owners. Lenin stole the farms of wealthy landowners and made them work it. Under communism the state takes everything and redistributes it. I’ve yet to see Joe Biden or Gavin Newsome say “we should steal *Insert California CEO*s factory.” I don’t even support these guys but they’re not communists.

I don’t like Democrats either, they’re just as money grubbing as republicans.

(12-13-2021 01:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Are you still in college?

Yeah but if it makes you feel any better I was a lefty way before I went to ECU. I had to work full time and goto community college to save up to goto university because I didn’t want any student debt. So I brought my leftiness to ECU.

(12-13-2021 03:03 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 01:47 PM)banker Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Even communist and socialist have an elite ruling class. Are you just obtuse, or worse? Let me give you something to chew on.

The democrats and other lefties you support are for equality and closing the gross inequities that exist in our system, I bet you would say. Then tell me why legislation pushed by Trump and passed by republicans that limited deductions for state tax and real estate taxes was quickly a target for elimination by the left? That tax law only impacted the rich, people with high income and high value property. It eliminated tax write offs for people owning multiple homes essentially.

Explain.

When Mao won the Chinese revolution he brutally murdered thousands of landlords. Castro murdered and exiled thousands of wealthy plantation owners. Lenin stole the farms of wealthy landowners and made them work it. Under communism the state takes everything and redistributes it. I’ve yet to see Joe Biden or Gavin Newsome say “we should steal *Insert California CEO*s factory.” I don’t even support these guys but they’re not communists.

I don’t like Democrats either, they’re just as money grubbing as republicans.

They're just getting started my man...



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(12-13-2021 12:57 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  This highlights the ridiculousness of the Texas law, which is terrible policy no matter where you stand on abortion. The Supreme Court may well overturn Roe vs. Wade using the current case from Mississippi, which stems from a law banning abortion after 15 weeks. That is a straightforward, logical challenge to current law although opinions will differ as to whether or not it should succeed. That is how the system should work when a state wants a law or court ruling overturned.

The Texas law promotes vigilantism and attempts to sidestep the state's enforcement of still unconstitutional (at this moment) anti-abortion laws by deputizing the public to do so via a civil court process. This is exactly what we told you would happen if the Texas law wasn't quickly struck down, blue states will copy it as a way to promote their policy agenda. Governor Newsom's proposal would be terrible policy as well. The Supreme Court still has not ruled on the merits of the Texas law, but they likely won't be able to avoid it forever and hopefully it and any copycats like this California proposal will be struck down 9-0.

The rule of law is essential to an orderly society and the law should be enforced by the state, not by private citizens exploiting a loophole cleverly crafted by a state legislature to sneakily avoid Supreme Court rulings. Whichever side you fall on in these policy debates, the solution is not vigilantism and pitting individuals more against each other than we already are.

You are 100 percent correct systematically speaking.

(12-13-2021 03:07 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 01:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Are you still in college?

Yeah but if it makes you feel any better I was a lefty way before I went to ECU. I had to work full time and goto community college to save up to goto university because I didn’t want any student debt. So I brought my leftiness to ECU.

So, you decided to be student debt-free, but are ok with the government coming in and taking your earned income to pay the school debt of others who decided not to go the debt-free route?

(12-13-2021 03:07 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 01:03 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:33 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  If you guys hate California so much why are you concerned with how they govern themselves?

In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Are you still in college?

Yeah but if it makes you feel any better I was a lefty way before I went to ECU. I had to work full time and goto community college to save up to goto university because I didn’t want any student debt. So I brought my leftiness to ECU.

Ha, no need to explain! Our political perspectives are formed by our parents mostly at a younger age, then you slowly begin to modernize over time based off of life experiences.

Props to you for making a smart financial decision. Most kids coming from HS don’t quite understand the gravity of taking on a college loan.

(12-13-2021 02:54 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 01:52 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 01:47 PM)banker Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:54 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  In one of my posts above I said let them do what they want.

We can still laugh at them for being communistic and idiotic.

Considering the fact that a large percentage of millionaires and billionaires live in California it seems unlikely it’s anywhere close to communism. Which is a government system that sees the wealthy stripped of their possessions and given back to working class.

Even communist and socialist have an elite ruling class. Are you just obtuse, or worse? Let me give you something to chew on.

The democrats and other lefties you support are for equality and closing the gross inequities that exist in our system, I bet you would say. Then tell me why legislation pushed by Trump and passed by republicans that limited deductions for state tax and real estate taxes was quickly a target for elimination by the left? That tax law only impacted the rich, people with high income and high value property. It eliminated tax write offs for people owning multiple homes essentially.

Explain.

He can't because college doesn't teach our young adults to think independently anymore.

It's all buzz words and idealism. When he starts paying taxes, gets married, has children these issues will seem different.

One thing for sure, he probably owns a car so at least that gives him an idea of how screwed up his side of the political spectrum is taking away his money...or his parents? Let me clarify, gas prices, because it probably went over his head.

if fuel rising —- >>> prices will fk yo’ arse if plausible …

#hornsTallerNow

@while

(12-13-2021 03:13 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:57 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  This highlights the ridiculousness of the Texas law, which is terrible policy no matter where you stand on abortion. The Supreme Court may well overturn Roe vs. Wade using the current case from Mississippi, which stems from a law banning abortion after 15 weeks. That is a straightforward, logical challenge to current law although opinions will differ as to whether or not it should succeed. That is how the system should work when a state wants a law or court ruling overturned.

The Texas law promotes vigilantism and attempts to sidestep the state's enforcement of still unconstitutional (at this moment) anti-abortion laws by deputizing the public to do so via a civil court process. This is exactly what we told you would happen if the Texas law wasn't quickly struck down, blue states will copy it as a way to promote their policy agenda. Governor Newsom's proposal would be terrible policy as well. The Supreme Court still has not ruled on the merits of the Texas law, but they likely won't be able to avoid it forever and hopefully it and any copycats like this California proposal will be struck down 9-0.

The rule of law is essential to an orderly society and the law should be enforced by the state, not by private citizens exploiting a loophole cleverly crafted by a state legislature to sneakily avoid Supreme Court rulings. Whichever side you fall on in these policy debates, the solution is not vigilantism and pitting individuals more against each other than we already are.

You are 100 percent correct systematically speaking.

define systemic vs. law … last time I reviewed the def con, we’re now at manipulative, “One”…

fk the bs semantics…

(12-13-2021 03:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 03:13 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:57 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  This highlights the ridiculousness of the Texas law, which is terrible policy no matter where you stand on abortion. The Supreme Court may well overturn Roe vs. Wade using the current case from Mississippi, which stems from a law banning abortion after 15 weeks. That is a straightforward, logical challenge to current law although opinions will differ as to whether or not it should succeed. That is how the system should work when a state wants a law or court ruling overturned.

The Texas law promotes vigilantism and attempts to sidestep the state's enforcement of still unconstitutional (at this moment) anti-abortion laws by deputizing the public to do so via a civil court process. This is exactly what we told you would happen if the Texas law wasn't quickly struck down, blue states will copy it as a way to promote their policy agenda. Governor Newsom's proposal would be terrible policy as well. The Supreme Court still has not ruled on the merits of the Texas law, but they likely won't be able to avoid it forever and hopefully it and any copycats like this California proposal will be struck down 9-0.

The rule of law is essential to an orderly society and the law should be enforced by the state, not by private citizens exploiting a loophole cleverly crafted by a state legislature to sneakily avoid Supreme Court rulings. Whichever side you fall on in these policy debates, the solution is not vigilantism and pitting individuals more against each other than we already are.

You are 100 percent correct systematically speaking.

define systemic vs. law … last time I reviewed the def con, we’re now at manipulative, “One”…

fk the bs semantics…

It's a false equivalency (abortion vs guns), as the Texas law is preserving life while a any gun ban is literally unconstitutional, but Gamenole is right when he says that the Texas law not being forced by the State is a loophole that liberals will try to emulate on their platform.