(11-30-2021 01:48 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

It is a bitter shame that 2024 is so far away. This nation needs Ron DeSantis in the oval office right NOW.

be careful what ya ask fo’ …

#henceDJT (tried to explain the residual)

yeah, I’m having fonzies at too many expenses…

#absorbOrFightOrDie

Plot Twist in Waukesha Parade Attack Trial: Darrell Edward Brooks Says Only One Word and the Court Makes a Major Shakeup

Quote:Darrell Edward Brooks, the suspected attacker who drove an SUV into a Waukesha Christmas parade in Wisconsin, killing at least six people and injuring dozens more, appeared in court on Tuesday.

The suspect appeared before the court via virtual conference along with his lawyer and the court clerk. The Waukesha massacre suspect stood before the court and was asked a simple question.

His response is the first known thing that Brooks has said since the horrible tragedy that occurred on Sunday, November 21.

“Can you hear, Mr. Brooks?” the court clerk asked.

“Yes,” the suspect replied, according to Fox News.

That was all that Brooks would say, because his attorney has requested to be withdrawn from the case. Joseph Domask, Brooks’ counsel, requested to be pulled from the case because he purportedly had a high number of relationships with the incident’s victims. Judge Davis Feiss granted the motion.

Domask had represented Brooks during his November 5 court appearance for allegedly running over his ex-girlfriend with his SUV in a gas station parking lot on Nov. 2, Fox News reported. Brooks is still facing charges of reckless endangerment, battery, domestic abuse, bail jumping and resisting arrest over the alleged attack.

“The 39-year-old’s felony charges rose to six counts of first-degree intentional homicide after the death of 8-year-old Jackson Sparks, who succumbed to brain injuries caused by the SUV,” the Daily Caller reports.

(11-30-2021 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:48 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It is a bitter shame that 2024 is so far away. This nation needs Ron DeSantis in the oval office right NOW.

be careful what ya ask fo’ …

#henceDJT

I am beginning to become just a tiny bit more hopeful that Trump will NOT end up being the 2024 Republican nominee.

He’ll probably make a run at it. But even the most addled Trump supporter cannot possibly watch Ron DeSantis speak in focused paragraphs, effectively weaving together multiple themes, versus Donald’s inability in his Bill O’Reilly interview to offer even a complete sentence in a woeful attempt to excuse his non-firing of his “friend” Tony Fauci.

Donald is an idiot. Fearless and entertaining. But an idiot just the same.

(11-30-2021 09:30 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:48 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It is a bitter shame that 2024 is so far away. This nation needs Ron DeSantis in the oval office right NOW.

be careful what ya ask fo’ …

#henceDJT

I am beginning to become just a tiny bit more hopeful that Trump will NOT end up being the 2024 Republican nominee.

He’ll probably make a run at it. But even the most addled Trump supporter cannot possibly watch Ron DeSantis speak in focused paragraphs, effectively weaving together multiple themes, versus Donald’s inability in his Bill O’Reilly interview to offer even a complete sentence in a woeful attempt to excuse his non-firing of his “friend” Tony Fauci.

Donald is an idiot. Fearless and entertaining. But an idiot just the same.

Yeah, uh, no. Idiots don't amass billions. He may be inarticulate but that's not an indication of his intelligence. My older brother can barely spell "spell" yet he's one of the sharpest people I know. I'll take fearlessness and cunning over public speaking ability all day long.

That said if it ends up being DeSantis I'll vote for him. I'd rather Ted Cruz win the nomination myself. I like the bulldog in him.

(12-01-2021 09:38 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Yeah, uh, no. Idiots don't amass billions. He may be inarticulate but that's not an indication of his intelligence. My older brother can barely spell "spell" yet he's one of the sharpest people I know. I'll take fearlessness and cunning over public speaking ability all day long.

That said if it ends up being DeSantis I'll vote for him. I'd rather Ted Cruz win the nomination myself. I like the bulldog in him.

Ted Cruz has a significant amount of usefulness in the Senate right now that would be even more useful with DeSantis in the White House.

I have said before and will say again, that I think a DeSantis and Nikki Haley ticket is the most desirable.

As the list of Dem Congressmen and Senators jumping off grows, the more the Republicans will want to keep the long term serving members (veterans) right where they are.

(12-01-2021 09:38 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 09:30 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:48 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It is a bitter shame that 2024 is so far away. This nation needs Ron DeSantis in the oval office right NOW.

be careful what ya ask fo’ …

#henceDJT

I am beginning to become just a tiny bit more hopeful that Trump will NOT end up being the 2024 Republican nominee.

He’ll probably make a run at it. But even the most addled Trump supporter cannot possibly watch Ron DeSantis speak in focused paragraphs, effectively weaving together multiple themes, versus Donald’s inability in his Bill O’Reilly interview to offer even a complete sentence in a woeful attempt to excuse his non-firing of his “friend” Tony Fauci.

Donald is an idiot. Fearless and entertaining. But an idiot just the same.

Yeah, uh, no. Idiots don't amass billions. He may be inarticulate but that's not an indication of his intelligence. My older brother can barely spell "spell" yet he's one of the sharpest people I know. I'll take fearlessness and cunning over public speaking ability all day long.

That said if it ends up being DeSantis I'll vote for him. I'd rather Ted Cruz win the nomination myself. I like the bulldog in him.

I will give you fearless. There is no such thing as a "third rail" for Donald Trump. He will jump on the tracks and dance in front of the oncoming subway train, all the while accusing others of being weak for not following him.

Cunning? Not a chance. This is a man who didn't see the need to fire either Jim Comey or Tony Fauci when he clearly should have, simply because he liked hearing them say to his face that he was the smartest, strongest and greatest leader, all the while undermining him behind his back. This is a man who thought the Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Tony Scaramucci, etc, all were good representatives of his interests. This is a man who was outwitted by the George Soros progressives in the 2020 election. That doesn't happen to people who are cunning.

(12-01-2021 10:07 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(12-01-2021 09:38 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Yeah, uh, no. Idiots don't amass billions. He may be inarticulate but that's not an indication of his intelligence. My older brother can barely spell "spell" yet he's one of the sharpest people I know. I'll take fearlessness and cunning over public speaking ability all day long.

That said if it ends up being DeSantis I'll vote for him. I'd rather Ted Cruz win the nomination myself. I like the bulldog in him.

Ted Cruz has a significant amount of usefulness in the Senate right now that would be even more useful with DeSantis in the White House.

I have said before and will say again, that I think a DeSantis and Nikki Haley ticket is the most desirable.

As the list of Dem Congressmen and Senators jumping off grows, the more the Republicans will want to keep the long term serving members (veterans) right where they are.

The list of prospects for the GOP nomination in 2024 is almost endless. For the moment, Ron DeSantis seems tom me to be doing the best job of presenting a clear and sensible executive approach. But I'd be delighted with others.

The only way that I see the Republicans losing in 2022 or 2024 is if Donald Trump interferes. To his credit, he did not do so in last month's Virginia and New Jersey elections, and the results speak for themselves.

(12-01-2021 10:07 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(12-01-2021 09:38 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Yeah, uh, no. Idiots don't amass billions. He may be inarticulate but that's not an indication of his intelligence. My older brother can barely spell "spell" yet he's one of the sharpest people I know. I'll take fearlessness and cunning over public speaking ability all day long.

That said if it ends up being DeSantis I'll vote for him. I'd rather Ted Cruz win the nomination myself. I like the bulldog in him.

Ted Cruz has a significant amount of usefulness in the Senate right now that would be even more useful with DeSantis in the White House.

I have said before and will say again, that I think a DeSantis and Nikki Haley ticket is the most desirable.

As the list of Dem Congressmen and Senators jumping off grows, the more the Republicans will want to keep the long term serving members (veterans) right where they are.

Definitely NOT Nikki Haley. That ship has sailed.

(11-30-2021 09:30 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:48 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It is a bitter shame that 2024 is so far away. This nation needs Ron DeSantis in the oval office right NOW.

be careful what ya ask fo’ …

#henceDJT

I am beginning to become just a tiny bit more hopeful that Trump will NOT end up being the 2024 Republican nominee.

He’ll probably make a run at it. But even the most addled Trump supporter cannot possibly watch Ron DeSantis speak in focused paragraphs, effectively weaving together multiple themes, versus Donald’s inability in his Bill O’Reilly interview to offer even a complete sentence in a woeful attempt to excuse his non-firing of his “friend” Tony Fauci.

Donald is an idiot. Fearless and entertaining. But an idiot just the same.

I’ve always been there in scope … however, what matters if one follows the other…

policy means naught … what does that tell ya, Ja?!

#termLimitsRock

#GroverII #coolWithEither

I’m done with bs niceties …it’s a waste of time

either the pubs play dirty going into ‘22, or ewes eventually fail…

@pickZePoison

NEW: Waukesha Massacre Suspect Darrell Brooks Finally Speaks

Quote:In an incredibly odd occurrence, Darrell Brooks, who is accused of intentionally ramming his SUV into a parade — killing at least six, and injuring dozens of others — gave an interview today. For the last 10 days since his arrest, we’ve heard nothing from Brooks and essentially nothing from law enforcement on why he did what he did.

Now, he’s complaining about being “demonized” and that his mother has not visited him. Fox News has the exclusive.

Darrell Brooks Jr. has spent the last 10 days locked up in a Wisconsin jail cell after allegedly mowing through the barricades and into revelers at the Waukesha Christmas parade, killing six people and injuring 62.

Now he feels “dehumanized,” he told Fox News Digital Wednesday in his first remarks to the media, seemingly surprised that he had visitors.

“I just feel like I’m being monster – demonized,” Brooks, 39, said during a brief video visit in Waukesha County Jail – a stone’s throw from where tragedy struck over a week earlier.

I don’t know what to make of this. Why would Brooks be allowed visitors in the first place? Much less two Fox News reporters? Regardless, the last thing Brooks needs to concern himself with is what people are saying about him. He’s got far worse problems, namely the six murder charges he faces for the horrific act he committed. The article makes no note of him showing any remorse.

As to why he did what he did, Brooks gave no clues to the reporters. That may tell us something, though. If this wasn’t an intentional act (prosecutors have already said it was), you would think he’d be proclaiming his innocence. That he didn’t when asked speaks volumes. Clearly, as has been previously indicated, this was no accident.

So what was the motive? Until I’m introduced to an alternate theory that makes some semblance of sense, I continue to think you can’t just ignore his radical, racist statements on social media. No one runs into a parade of elderly women and children without a reason, and Brooks had one, even if he’s not saying what it is yet.

The rest of the Fox News write-up was light on details. It appears that the interview was promptly cut short after Brooks began possibly crying, stood up, and was escorted back to his cell. Prior to that, he had noted that his mother had not visited him and that despite his vast criminal record (which includes child sex offenses and beating women), they were previously close. Fox News further described Brooks as soft-spoken and coherent during the interview.

Personally, I find this entire thing bizarre. How did they get to speak to him? Why is he still not stating a motive? Why are law enforcement officials not giving detailed updates after such a horrific crime? Something doesn’t feel right here. Hopefully, we can get more information soon because all this obfuscation is not helping anyone, much less the families of the victims.

(11-30-2021 09:30 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:48 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It is a bitter shame that 2024 is so far away. This nation needs Ron DeSantis in the oval office right NOW.

be careful what ya ask fo’ …

#henceDJT

I am beginning to become just a tiny bit more hopeful that Trump will NOT end up being the 2024 Republican nominee.

He’ll probably make a run at it. But even the most addled Trump supporter cannot possibly watch Ron DeSantis speak in focused paragraphs, effectively weaving together multiple themes, versus Donald’s inability in his Bill O’Reilly interview to offer even a complete sentence in a woeful attempt to excuse his non-firing of his “friend” Tony Fauci.

Donald is an idiot. Fearless and entertaining. But an idiot just the same.

If you really think the press will portray DeSantis any different from Trump---then you havent learned a thing in the last 5 years. Romney and Chaney are the current Republican press darlings----but it wasnt that long ago that the press told us Romney was a dangerous racist dog hating misogynist who only cared about the rich. Any Republican candidate that intends to do anything other than pay casual lip service to a true conservative agenda will be vilified by the DNC corporate "fake state news" propaganda organ.

(11-30-2021 09:30 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(11-30-2021 01:48 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It is a bitter shame that 2024 is so far away. This nation needs Ron DeSantis in the oval office right NOW.

be careful what ya ask fo’ …

#henceDJT

I am beginning to become just a tiny bit more hopeful that Trump will NOT end up being the 2024 Republican nominee.

He’ll probably make a run at it. But even the most addled Trump supporter cannot possibly watch Ron DeSantis speak in focused paragraphs, effectively weaving together multiple themes, versus Donald’s inability in his Bill O’Reilly interview to offer even a complete sentence in a woeful attempt to excuse his non-firing of his “friend” Tony Fauci.

Donald is an idiot. Fearless and entertaining. But an idiot just the same.

He’s not an idiot unless you think he is one for wading into the swamp. Inarticulate, crass, boorish, yes. But he shakes things up in the GOP. They’re only half sucky now. Inexperienced and a poor judge of character in politics, yes. But that’s part of why we elected him. I expected we’d get better cabinet picks than he made. I can’t think of a Republican since the early 1920s who got better results from a conservative perspective.

As you say, Ron is a more articulate speaker and better advocate than Trump. I hope he’s the nominee. My buddy is casual friends with Ron and I think he’ll be much more appealing to the suburban wine moms who allowed Biden to steal 2020.

I think America has heard enough of this generation in politics and in the business world for the past 30-35 years. It’s always been the same age cohort and families ruling everything since I was aware of things. Sure, I could become a SVP, but where my dad could attain that at 30, it took me an extra 10 years. And there was always a 65-75 year old sitting on top of the structure. With Biden, the Boomers have controlled the presidency for what, 25 years and going?

Very good responses. Part of my emerging optimism is that many of the very smart people on this forum appear to be making an actual, honest assessment of a Donald Trump’s serious flaws, and not just dismissing them as “mean tweets” and those with doubts labeled as “progfilth”.

I realize that few here are going to accept my word on this, but I honestly do not hate Donald Trump (the person). I admire him. As I have said many time, he is fearless. He is a leader, not a follower. He has an instinct for spotting and calling out flaws in his opponents, and making that those flaws a necessary part of the conversation. He, in truth, saved America in 2016.

What I hate is the insistence of so many that he and only he is the answer for conservatism following the disaster in 2020. He is not. He, in my view, is the LEAST qualified to take up that cause - - and probably is the only way that Republicans might lose in 2024. There is a reason that the media and the left refuse to let go of the “But Trump” nonsense - - because it works.

Donald Trump deserves to have his head carved into Mount Rushmore. I mean that. But Donald Trump has no business being in the conversation for who will lead the Republican/conservative movement in 2022 and 2024. I mean that even more.

(12-02-2021 06:17 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  What I hate is the insistence of so many that he and only he is the answer for conservatism following the disaster in 2020. He is not. He, in my view, is the LEAST qualified to take up that cause - - and probably is the only way that Republicans might lose in 2024. There is a reason that the media and the left refuse to let go of the “But Trump” nonsense - - because it works.

If he's the only one with the balls to do it, then he's the most qualified.

(12-02-2021 07:06 AM)Stick4489 Wrote:  

(12-02-2021 06:17 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  What I hate is the insistence of so many that he and only he is the answer for conservatism following the disaster in 2020. He is not. He, in my view, is the LEAST qualified to take up that cause - - and probably is the only way that Republicans might lose in 2024. There is a reason that the media and the left refuse to let go of the “But Trump” nonsense - - because it works.

If he's the only one with the balls to do it, then he's the most qualified.

Rand Paul, after being hospitalized by an attack from a leftist neighbor, had the balls to walk the streets of Washington DC during Antifa protests because it was his right to do so. Ted Cruz, after being vilified in virtually every media forum, and after having to be escorted out of the 2016 Republican Convention for being the only speaker brave enough to express reservations about Donald Trump, still has the balls to speak his mind on any and every topic of national importance. Tim Scott has been called a race traitor, yet still has the balls to stand up and speak on what it right about our nation. Mike Pence, in the face of huge national pressure and angry mobs at the door, had the balls to do his Constitutional duty.

If you think that Donald Trump, and only Donald Trump, has the balls for the job, you are willfully blind.

And, honestly, when it comes to balls, Donald Trump still does not even have the spine to admit the countless times he's been wrong - - Comey, Fauci, Cohen, Scaramucci, and on and on. Why? Because he FEARS being shown up as a dupe and a weakling.

It is well past time for Donald Trump to accept accolades for the many, many things that he's done right and move out of the way of others who are better fit for what for our nation needs in a leader.

The 2024 election has nothing to do with whether Trump is qualified or whether he did a good job in his first term (or not).

He is simply far too divisive to achieve unity and that will always define him in the eyes of far too many people who cannot see the forest through the trees. Trump could literally give every American adult 1 million dollars and 45% of the country would still vote against him - with extreme prejudice.......

My Governor just announced he will not run for a 3rd term (Mass). One republican state senator already threw his hat in the ring - on the endorsement of DJT.... We will most likely be the first one out one the wheel starts spinning on elections season and it will have nothing to do with his ideas, only that Trump this dumbarse hitched his cart to Trump.

I've been thinking for a while I don't want Trump b/c he's just too divisive, but I'd much, much rather go down fighting than elect a McCain/Romney/etc. who's just in bed w/ the Left & would probably lose regardless.

It's not about nominating a candidate who will win, but who will finally start fighting for conservatives.

I like DeSantis/Scott in 2024. The Left would go nuts.

DeSantis seems to have the proper disposition and delivery to run and win. Most of his positions parallel DJT but if you notice he rarely equivalates himself to DJT. He seems like he is OK swilling in the mud but can extract himself from it when necessary.

The part that will drive the Dems absolutely crazy is that he speaks from a line of common sense thinking rather than the name calling rabbit holes that DJT cannot seem to extricate himself from.

(12-02-2021 08:29 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've been thinking for a while I don't want Trump b/c he's just too divisive, but I'd much, much rather go down fighting than elect a McCain/Romney/etc. who's just in bed w/ the Left & would probably lose regardless.
It's not about nominating a candidate who will win, but who will finally start fighting for conservatives.

John Sununu once put it this way to a group including me, "The most conservative candidate who can win."