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(11-13-2021 09:00 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  got the win

Heck yeah. Good win for this young team. Find ways right now.

A win is a win, fun team to watch and root for....

(11-13-2021 08:59 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  We’ve got to fix FT shooting

We're going to lose a lot of games shooting the 3 and FTs like we did today.

That said, it was a good win and our defense has been legit through 2 games. If they didn't shoot insane from 3 it's a much bigger victory even with how poorly we shot.

+6 on TOs
+12 on OBoards

There's your difference. Ugly offensively, but when you have that many more possessions, it's going to be hard to beat.

17 offensive rebounds = ballgame.

(11-13-2021 08:55 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:53 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  What in the hell were Saunders, Oguama, and Newman doing on the court in an obvious foul situation? Madsen/Dejulius, MAW, and Davenport should be on for th rest of the game.

I was yelling about this before Georgia took the free throws

I am all for subbing guys in and out and staying fresh but could not figure out what Miller was doing at the end of the game.

(11-13-2021 09:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  17 offensive rebounds = ballgame.

The Houston Strategy.

FT shooting wasn't pretty, but we got the win. Georgia shot 50% from three to our 20% from three, gotta be happy to walk away with a win with those percentages.

We need to work on our interior defense. Their center was 11-15 for 24 points. Ody was terrible defending him and left him to go for blocks he had no chance at, Ado wasn't much better. Koval was our best center today and might be our best on the season. Lakhin also did quite well playing the 4, he could have had 5-10 more points if we had fed him the ball, he had a huge mismatch but we rarely gave him the ball to let him take advantage of it.

(11-13-2021 09:02 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:55 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 08:53 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  What in the hell were Saunders, Oguama, and Newman doing on the court in an obvious foul situation? Madsen/Dejulius, MAW, and Davenport should be on for th rest of the game.

I was yelling about this before Georgia took the free throws

I am all for subbing guys in and out and staying fresh but could not figure out what Miller was doing at the end of the game.

Among other baffling choices, he brought Ody in for Koval for offense and FT shooting.

Got 10% of those 20 wins that are going to get us in the NCAA's.

Team doesn't fade in the last six minutes of the game anymore.

(11-13-2021 09:03 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 09:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  17 offensive rebounds = ballgame.

The Houston Strategy.

Used to be the Bearcat Strategy before Sampson stole the blueprint.

(11-13-2021 09:23 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Got 10% of those 20 wins that are going to get us in the NCAA's.

Team doesn't fade in the last six minutes of the game anymore.

With this schedule, that number is closer to 23. I think they get more than 20 but can they enough of the right games needed. I feel this team should be good enough for the NIT and can make a run at the NCAA if things fall right.

sure hope the negativism goes away as the season progresses. Wow.

(11-13-2021 09:51 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  sure hope the negativism goes away as the season progresses. Wow.

Well, it was a win over a P5 team. But unfortunately Georgia is picked to finished last in the SEC. But a win is a win.

Fun game again. Great crowd. The team looked really good for a long stretch there in the middle of the game. Seems they are still working things out at both ends. I imagine Wes is still trying to figure out lineups too; there are a lot of options, but the subbing was pretty crazy tonight.

MAW was pretty steady. So was Newman.

Lahkin continues to impress on offense.

Koval with a huge no no no yes! 3 there at the end. I guess he can hit that shot? He had a bunch of rebounds too. Solid game for him off the bench.

Not a great night for Davenport, but he still ended up with 11 and 7.

Please no DDJ at the line at the end of games. MAW and Madsen should be the guys getting the ball late with a lead.

That Madsen got so few minutes again is a huge mystery to me. What am I missing?

Anyone see Tyler Hansbrough in attendance? I gather he and Miller are close.

Really liking this team. Excited to see them progress.

(11-13-2021 11:24 PM)levydl Wrote:  Fun game again. Great crowd. The team looked really good for a long stretch there in the middle of the game. Seems they are still working things out at both ends. I imagine Wes is still trying to figure out lineups too; there are a lot of options, but the subbing was pretty crazy tonight.

MAW was pretty steady. So was Newman.

Lahkin continues to impress on offense.

Koval with a huge no no no yes! 3 there at the end. I guess he can hit that shot? He had a bunch of rebounds too. Solid game for him off the bench.

Not a great night for Davenport, but he still ended up with 11 and 7.

Please no DDJ at the line at the end of games. MAW and Madsen should be the guys getting the ball late with a lead.

That Madsen got so few minutes again is a huge mystery to me. What am I missing?

Anyone see Tyler Hansbrough in attendance? I gather he and Miller are close.

Really liking this team. Excited to see them progress.

A few points...Madsen played 15 minutes...that was like 5th most last night (the rotations are nuts right now). Shouldve probably be in that last minute for free throw shooting through.

Koval is a career 35% 3 point shooter (which, by percentages, makes him the 2nd best 3 point shooter on the team at this point). I think you'll see him have more than a few of those in the pick and pop game, and I'm more than ok with it. His shot looks far better than most of our perimeter players at this point.

I still don't know what I'm supposed to see that makes Ado a starting caliber player...he didn't bring anything to either of these first two games that we didn't have more of from Koval and Lakhin.

(11-14-2021 07:38 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 11:24 PM)levydl Wrote:  Fun game again. Great crowd. The team looked really good for a long stretch there in the middle of the game. Seems they are still working things out at both ends. I imagine Wes is still trying to figure out lineups too; there are a lot of options, but the subbing was pretty crazy tonight.

MAW was pretty steady. So was Newman.

Lahkin continues to impress on offense.

Koval with a huge no no no yes! 3 there at the end. I guess he can hit that shot? He had a bunch of rebounds too. Solid game for him off the bench.

Not a great night for Davenport, but he still ended up with 11 and 7.

Please no DDJ at the line at the end of games. MAW and Madsen should be the guys getting the ball late with a lead.

That Madsen got so few minutes again is a huge mystery to me. What am I missing?

Anyone see Tyler Hansbrough in attendance? I gather he and Miller are close.

Really liking this team. Excited to see them progress.

A few points...Madsen played 15 minutes...that was like 5th most last night (the rotations are nuts right now). Shouldve probably be in that last minute for free throw shooting through.

Koval is a career 35% 3 point shooter (which, by percentages, makes him the 2nd best 3 point shooter on the team at this point). I think you'll see him have more than a few of those in the pick and pop game, and I'm more than ok with it. His shot looks far better than most of our perimeter players at this point.

I still don't know what I'm supposed to see that makes Ado a starting caliber player...he didn't bring anything to either of these first two games that we didn't have more of from Koval and Lakhin.

We had 5 guys over 20 minutes and a couple right around Mason's 14. But he was 8th in minutes, not 5th. I think we are seeing Wes's bias towards defense and rebounding. Newman is generally going to beat Mason in those two departments and Miller in the post-game praised MAW/Saunders for their pressure on the ball (though if you ask me MAW gave up quite a few drives to the rim). Mason is also prone to getting overhyped and making a bad decision.

Mason isn't bad on defense though and he is one of our best offensive players. He helps spread the floor with the three in a way nobody else (besides possibly McGinnis) on the team can and showed the ability to drive to the basket and create as well. I get why Newman is preferred for now, being the older veteran who defends and rebounds, but I think at some point this season Mason starts to get more minutes at the expense of someone (probably Newman).

I agree on Ado, haven't seen much from him. He has the size and big body but he just can't use them to do much. Doesn't have great hands, doesn't move well to get rebounds and struggled to defend a smaller guy in the paint. I figure we will need him against teams with size that pound the paint, but we need him to be a lot better than he has been thus far.

Koval has been our best center (keep in mind I'm not considering Lakhin as a center, because he has played almost exclusive at the 4) without a doubt, moves very well for his size and can shoot. Biggest concern with Koval is he will probably get pushed around by a bigger guy. Ody has the energy and athleticism, but makes a lot of mistakes trying to do too much. Needs to learn to keep up the energy, while also playing within the system. Between that and his lack of offensive ability, I think Ody needs a year or so to develop before he is more than a 5-10 minutes per night guy.

I'd like to see Lakhin get 5-10 minutes per game at center, combine that with his time at PF and he'd average 20 minutes per game. Also give Koval some more minutes and drop Ody/Ado to the 5-10 minutes per game range. It's only two games though, so perhaps Ado/Ody are better than we've seen. In Miller we trust, at least for now.

My starting 5 would be Lahkin, Davenport, Newman, MAW, and DDJ. I know DeJulius is taking a lot of heat on here right now because he isn’t shooting the ball well. But he does a bunch of other things well- defense, rebounding, assists. Bring in Saunders for a change of pace and just tell him to stay hectic while he is in there.

How good has Lahkin been? Had no idea he would be this ready to play.

He’s really never shot the ball well here. He’s a good passer but doesn’t handle the ball well in traffic. He’s not really a PG. At this point it’s just who he is. I’d prefer to see the ball in MAW’s hands when it counts. Sanders is tough to have out there with the ball in close games since he struggles from the line.

This team has a lot of nice pieces but there are holes in a lot of their games that are going to make Wes earn his keep.